Kownacki is another PBC HW Haymon ruined

Kownacki has done pretty well when you consider how useless he is.

They never ruined him, they made him out of nothing. Same as Ortiz. They want in house fights. To have in house fights they need to build in house fighters with a record to feed to the better fighters. Kownacki was never any good. He was being built for the Wilder show.

Cut the BS you guys sound like guys who run around blaming others for your shortcoming instead of taking responsibilities for your own BS KOWNACKI is the one who shows up fight night out of shape, he is the one who is not keeping his guard up, he is the one who has not improved his Head Movement yet people want to blame the Promoter, the Manager, the Advisor and everybody else but the fighter himself. His Manager Keith Connelly had a say in it too, they didn't want Kownacki taking AJ on short notice and once again he wasn't in shape at that time either Kownacki just wasn't good enough to reach that level, if anything he was given...HANDED every opportunity in the world to become a star but he couldn't win big fights that being said, if the man wants to continue to fight then let him, the fight last night was very entertaining at least so maybe give him some soft touches let him rebuild and he can still work his way back

The PBC contracts are controlled by Haymon at the end of the day . It specifically says he has final say in who anyone fights under contract . Which is very funny when posters bring up anything about slavery on here just because a certain criteria is met with a different color of a promoter . :lol1: I think you have confused me with someone else.

he's a grown man.

Boxing politricks all round is a joke. PBC do seem the worst, but all these promotors need to wake up. They are killing boxing and ruining careers with their desperation to control everything. This is the correct answer. I shit on PBC because they're the worst but all the promoters do it. When's the last cross promo fight we've seen? Wilder Fury? That might be it in the last 2 years. The exclusive network deals certainly don't help. I think DAZN actually might be the best as far as willingness to put on cross promotion fights but no other promoter wants to do dual network unless it's a huge fight.

Haney is not with Haymon. ​​​​​​ Which is my point. ​​​​​​ Haymon fighters can't decide for themselves. If their advisor doesn't like a fight, they won't get the fight, even if they can make more money from it than they would from any fight Haymon can offer them. The best example of this is Wilder and the 100 million offer. Not true. We don't live in the 1800's. Nobody is gonna tie Wilder to a tree and whip him for disobeying his masters. A man is free to do what he wants in this life...as long as he is willing to accept the consequences.

DAZN was on a spending binge at that time trying to attract subscribers. Haymon, Espinoza, Finkel thought the huge amount of money DAZN was spending signified the size of the potential box office of the Wilder fights in terms of PPV buys, which was apples and oranges. They duped themselves into believing they didn't need DAZN. They had to overpay Wilder and his opponents to make it look like they're in real business and anything they overspend will be recovered in time. In the end, Espinoza had had enough of it and let FOX have the Wilder fights on their network.

Guy ruined himself by eating every pierogi in existence then deciding never to move his head or learn any type of defence.

How dare you question the man who squandered nearly a billion dollars of Waddell and Reed?. Ellerbe said the same thing about Hearn.

Boxing politricks all round is a joke. PBC do seem the worst, but all these promotors need to wake up. They are killing boxing and ruining careers with their desperation to control everything.

Well....in theory you may be right. But I guess Haney showed if you want a fight you can actually get it. So in reality...Kownacki declined the fights. That's on him. And Wilder declined the Joshua fight...that's on him. Haymon is an "advisor". Plenty of people have offered me advice in my life...some good some bad. They road I took was based on wether I accepted that advice or not...so I can't blame anyone else for those choices. Haney is not with Haymon. ​​​​​​ Which is my point. ​​​​​​ Haymon fighters can't decide for themselves. If their advisor doesn't like a fight, they won't get the fight, even if they can make more money from it than they would from any fight Haymon can offer them. The best example of this is Wilder and the 100 million offer.

Well....in theory you may be right. But I guess Haney showed if you want a fight you can actually get it. So in reality...Kownacki declined the fights. That's on him. And Wilder declined the Joshua fight...that's on him. Haymon is an "advisor". Plenty of people have offered me advice in my life...some good some bad. They road I took was based on wether I accepted that advice or not...so I can't blame anyone else for those choices. Exactly. If anything I'm glad Kownacki didn't take those fights. Even old Del Boy was probably too much for him. As for Kownacki's money, I could care less what he has lol. No reason why any of us should.

First it was Wilder. Ducked Joshua for years (which he finally officially admitted last year) then declined the 100 million dollar offer to fight a must win fight vs fat, coked up Fury. The rest is history. As is Wilder. Now Kownacki. Also declined the Joshua fight for the biggest purse of his life, fought a couple bums, then took the Helenius fight, which much as the Fury fight was for Wilder, was a sure thing. Got beaten twice. Then got an offer to fight Chisora for 1.5 million. Declined to fight this guy. Now look at him. Thank You Al Haymon, I guess. Well....in theory you may be right. But I guess Haney showed if you want a fight you can actually get it. So in reality...Kownacki declined the fights. That's on him. And Wilder declined the Joshua fight...that's on him. Haymon is an "advisor". Plenty of people have offered me advice in my life...some good some bad. They road I took was based on wether I accepted that advice or not...so I can't blame anyone else for those choices.

Now Kownacki must keep on fighting, he has no other choice, will he drive a cab or work as a doorman?

How dare you question the man who squandered nearly a billion dollars of Waddell and Reed? Yeah fat boy and Beyonce probably kicking themselves.

Were the rumours that Kownacki turned down a two-fight deal with Matchroom to fight Chisora (and then presumably Wardley or Basic) worth seven figures ever substantiated? I can't remember hearing much concrete about it. In hindsight of course, based on the fact he probably made less than half a million to fight Demirezen, that looks like a terrible financial decision.