Yup
If the officiating had been right in the Mcdermott 1 fight which Fury lost in the eyes of everyone BUT the ref, who was a fury family friend, the story would have probably ended there.
Vs Steve Cunningham he was on his way to a loss until he started excessively fouling, which the ref allowed, he could not live with Cunningham boxing clean
Both his Wilder wins were excessive foul fests.
I do give him credit for the klitschko win, he won that one cleanly, for what it's worth.
- - Fat McD turned his back on Fury to sprint across the ring to prevent from being KOed in the last round.
A clear TKO or DQ loss for McD.
What grade U in then?
The difference is Roy Jones greatness was all within the rules.
Fury has to go outside the rules, repeatedly, consistently to get his wins.
But I can't blame him for pushing his luck, it's due to slack officiating that for some reason keeps letting him get away with it.
He will be in serious trouble vs Usyk if the Usyk camp draw attention to all his dirty tactics and he's forced to have a clean, technical boxing match with usyk. If he's allowed to go WWE then Usyk won't last long. The referee will decide who wins that one
Yeah so he’s undefeated in 33 fights, took the belts from the most dominant fighter of the last era, went away for 3 years, come back against all odds and become world champ again. Has won every title from English, British, Commonwealth, European and every world title and won those world belts from the two longest reigning champions in modern times
and he did all that due to “slack officiating” ?
got it :lol1:
Good skills for a very big man. Certainly not great skills but good, combined with being a giant.
I must admit I laugh when people say he moves like a welterweight. He's pretty clumsy in comparison to smaller fighters.
Tyson Fury is extremely clumsy, and is still a bad knock out waiting to happen. In 90% of his fights, I have seen moments of extreme calamity. Unfortunately we are just in a era where fighters at top level, are struggling to capitalize.
Any great heavyweight finisher would of stopped Tyson Fury vs Wilder III, wow. I have seen threads were people are mocking old time fighters skill.
Compare Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder III, to Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier III. Fury & Wilder are slower, seem way more fatigued, and all over the place. And this was Muhammad Ali & Joe Frazier miles from their peak, competing under very hot and humid conditions.
The best one was when Haye, during their press conference stated 'I was watching Fury just walking about. He was tripping over steps, and even when he got up from the table wacked the table'.
Fury's best attributes for me are his gameness, and his ability to pretty much fight in all area's. That combined with his dimensions, is going to make him awkward fighter.
I don't think he is unbeatable, even in this era.
None of those 3 men you listed knew how to use their size.
They would stand there, stock still trying to have a boxing technical match with their opponents.
Fury is either a mile away from his opponent or he collapses the pocket and sticks his opponent in a headlock, shells up and runs forward in to them, leaning on them as they try not to fall through the ropes, spins them around in circles while strangling them etc.
That's not to say he is unskilled, but yeah those big guys you listed were just big stuff dummies with low iq.
Isn’t knowing how to use your physical gifts a skill?
as you said, the others didn’t know how to. That’s the difference between the skilled and unskilled. You can’t criticise that…
it’s like maligning Roy Jones for knowing how to maximise and utilise his naturally gifted hand speed and athleticism
Until he beats someone his size or bigger
his size is why he’s winning these fights tbh
If he's fighting Thor next that should be a bigger man. Will probably be more of a challenge than Wilder or Whyte too.
Until he beats someone his size or bigger
his size is why he’s winning these fights tbh
Added to how sad the div is...the stars lined up perfectly for the oaf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lql36jlV9dE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyfy3wYoPKc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAe-dr_ry3c
Look at all the skill :lol1: !!!!
Good skills for a very big man. Certainly not great skills but good, combined with being a giant.
I must admit I laugh when people say he moves like a welterweight. He's pretty clumsy in comparison to smaller fighters.
Hold on…? You say he’s clearly bigger then upload 1 photo which appears to disprove your point?
Regardless, I’m not saying 6’7” dead on, but about/slightly above. Not 6’9”.
Yes, he’s way heavier, but that option’s there for Wilder and other HWs since there’s no max weight at HW.
- - Deyonce only 6-4 making Furry at least 6-6.
U gonna make 5-1 this year?
With Fury it is a combination of his size and skill. If he had the same exact skills but was only 6'3", he would not be as successful. However, even if he were 7' tall, if he had no skill he wouldn't be successful either. I think Wilder was a better example of a guy who had very limited skill until he ran out of cherry-picks and journeymen to beat on. He is very basic and a one-trick pony with a big right hand and not much else.
Tyson Fury moves extremely well for his size. He actually doesn’t look like a giant goof ball in the ring. He has footwork, movement, good handspeed, and good power. He also has a backup plan if he’s losing: fight dirty. He also has a hell of a chin and even if he goes down, he’s getting back up.
He’s a mere 2 inches taller than Wilder, and dominated him.
HW always has a Tyson Fury dominating. Muhammad Ali was taller than all of his opponents in his prime, until he faced Foreman. What made him so special to watch was how big he was and how well he moved and how fast he was for his size. Boxing fans at the time haven’t really seen such a big fighter move so well like that, looking like a Middleweight, and be so successful at it.
It’s hard for some people to grasp this because he’s white, but Tyson Fury is successful and popular for his in-ring ability because of the same reasons Ali was popular for his in-ring ability. These are two giants of their time who didn’t move like giants.
It goes over some fan’s heads. It’s not just size. We have already seen tall HW’s in this era like Valuev (taller than Fury), Wach (6’8”), and they just are not good. Valuev got outboxed by an old Holyfield (robbed). Wach has proven to be big for nothing, with 8 losses, 4 by KO’s. Look at David Price, 6’2”, 82 inch reach, 260lbs. Significantly bigger than almost everyone he fights, in every way, but has 7 losses all by brutal KO.
What Tyson Fury does can’t be done by just any big fighter.
nope. he's clearly taller than Wilder. not to mention 50 lbs bigger
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Hold on…? You say he’s clearly bigger then upload 1 photo which appears to disprove your point?
Regardless, I’m not saying 6’7” dead on, but about/slightly above. Not 6’9”.
Yes, he’s way heavier, but that option’s there for Wilder and other HWs since there’s no max weight at HW.
None of those 3 men you listed knew how to use their size.
They would stand there, stock still trying to have a boxing technical match with their opponents.
Fury is either a mile away from his opponent or he collapses the pocket and sticks his opponent in a headlock, shells up and runs forward in to them, leaning on them as they try not to fall through the ropes, spins them around in circles while strangling them etc.
That's not to say he is unskilled, but yeah those big guys you listed were just big stuff dummies with low iq.
Which is exactly my point. It’s Fury’s skill that makes him a great HW not just because he’s a giant.
It would probably help everyone if they realised Fury isn’t 6’9”, quite clearly. He’s more likely 6’7”-ish, which puts him in Wilder’s, AJ’s, and Wlad’s ballpark
nope. he's clearly taller than Wilder. not to mention 50 lbs bigger
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It would probably help everyone if they realised Fury isn’t 6’9”, quite clearly. He’s more likely 6’7”-ish, which puts him in Wilder’s, AJ’s, and Wlad’s ballpark