As much as I like Bivol...Beterviev is just a bridge too far. And don't even bring up Canelo's name because he's hiding under the bed right now.
I also like Benavidez...but he can't do it either. The fact is, NOBODY can, and I don't know what's left for Beterbiev...Zurdo Ramirez? I don't think Zurdo lasts either...Beterbiev has too much of an all around package. I don't know why it took him so long to final get his due, really. He's a likeable and humble guy, and I'm happy for him.
I would still give Bivol the edge. Hes faster, slicker, more technical and defensively sound enough to negate a lot of what the aging Beterbiev could throw at him. Joe Smith is pretty much just a basic tough guy brawler in comparison which plays right into Beterbievs wheelhouse.
As much as I like Bivol...Beterviev is just a bridge too far. And don't even bring up Canelo's name because he's hiding under the bed right now.
I also like Benavidez...but he can't do it either. The fact is, NOBODY can, and I don't know what's left for Beterbiev...Zurdo Ramirez? I don't think Zurdo lasts either...Beterbiev has too much of an all around package. I don't know why it took him so long to final get his due, really. He's a likeable and humble guy, and I'm happy for him.
Cancel all the fights. Artur beats them all. Retire already. No need to see them.
Other than being a "senior" in athlete terms
Put your dicc in your pants and stop stroking off over Bertebiev, it's gross
He's a great fighter, he's still in excellent form but the clock is ticking and he's got less career ahead of him than behind him, that's just a fact.
STFU titty boy.
Not saying he can't compete for a few more years but physically he's already at a disadvantage, that's just biology. Greats can figure out a way to work round that, but it's the same thing with Joyce at heavyweight, you have to take into account these guys age now.
FFS dude...he's KO'd everyone he fought as a pro. He's head and shoulders above EVERYONE...he has no disadvantage at all.
Brother , stfu
He’s 37 years old and most likely comparable to a 30 year old
I can see him fighting to 40 easily with his lifestyle
Now me / you...LOL. Two great minds think alike.
Bivol is not some American bum like Smith, he's an elite world class boxer, it's a good fight I could see either guy winning, Bivol has a big age advantage which could become a factor late in the fight. Bertebiev is great but he's nearly 40 and sometime soon he wil start to LOOK nearly 40
He turned just turned 37 in January and is in excellent shape. Remember Bernard Hopkins at 37? Beterbiev is a very young 37 and walks around at 200lbs...he's much bigger and way stronger than Bivol. I'd be surprised if Bivol actually still wants the fight right now, regardless of what he said up til now.
Bivol is not some American bum like Smith, he's an elite world class boxer, it's a good fight I could see either guy winning, Bivol has a big age advantage which could become a factor late in the fight. Bertebiev is great but he's nearly 40 and sometime soon he wil start to LOOK nearly 40
Brother , stfu
He’s 37 years old and most likely comparable to a 30 year old
I can see him fighting to 40 easily with his lifestyle
Beterbiev would walk Bivol down.. The power difference would be too much and Beterbiev is a really good boxer as well.. I don't think Bivol has anything for Beterbiev
Gvozdyk went 10 rd’s. I think Bivol will be fine. Beterbiev will have to hit Bivol frequently to stop him, it’s tough enough just to land on him. He’s not going to fall inside and get wailed on like what happened with Smith.
I don't get your point. Gvozdyk went 10 rds and then what happened?
Beats him with what though? Power? Aggression? Ring IQ?
Come on man, think logically here.
Bivol has a Russian style of boxing; basic 1-2, movement, circle and in and out. It's simple but ultra refined and it was enough to bamboozle Canelo.
Now, Beterbiev is 295-5 as an amateur and fought 90% opponents with the same style as Bivol - though they may not have been as perfect as Bivol.
Beterbiev has seen it all before. Bivol also is too small. Joe Smith dwarfed Bivol size wise in that ring whereas Beterbiev looked bigger than Smith.
Combine the natural size, power, EXPERIENCE and brute force and it only goes one way - Beterbiev by eventual KO
Well put. I want to see this fight BAD.
But Bivol is still going to get hit by Beterbiev...and it will wear him down unlike anyone he's ever faced. Even Joe Smith caught Bivol and tested his chin pretty good. Bivol is bound to get caught enough times to break down. He's not going to waltz through this without feeling that power. Bivol won't hurt Beterviev at all...he will get KO'd like everyone else.
Gvozdyk went 10 rd’s. I think Bivol will be fine. Beterbiev will have to hit Bivol frequently to stop him, it’s tough enough just to land on him. He’s not going to fall inside and get wailed on like what happened with Smith.
But Bivol is still going to get hit by Beterbiev...and it will wear him down unlike anyone he's ever faced. Even Joe Smith caught Bivol and tested his chin pretty good. Bivol is bound to get caught enough times to break down. He's not going to waltz through this without feeling that power. Bivol won't hurt Beterviev at all...he will get KO'd like everyone else.
LOL
I Just said the same thing
Didn’t see your post
Joe knew he had to hurt Beterbiev early to have any success in this fight. And that was the right plan for him. Artur is obviously much better boxer and Joe would never in any universe outbox him.
But that doesn`t help us to imagine how would Beterbiev - Bivol go. Bivol is a well skilled operator, he won`t try to hurt Beterbiev early, because he is a decision maschine. Bivol will box patiently like he usually does.
What about when Bivol tastes the power ?
Smith hurt him and he can’t box for chit
Joe knew he had to hurt Beterbiev early to have any success in this fight. And that was the right plan for him. Artur is obviously much better boxer and Joe would never in any universe outbox him.
But that doesn`t help us to imagine how would Beterbiev - Bivol go. Bivol is a well skilled operator, he won`t try to hurt Beterbiev early, because he is a decision maschine. Bivol will box patiently like he usually does.
But Bivol is still going to get hit by Beterbiev...and it will wear him down unlike anyone he's ever faced. Even Joe Smith caught Bivol and tested his chin pretty good. Bivol is bound to get caught enough times to break down. He's not going to waltz through this without feeling that power. Bivol won't hurt Beterviev at all...he will get KO'd like everyone else.
Sounds like someone forgot about Gvozdyk. The killer. Who Beterbiev destroyed.
Bivol is not the killer. Bivol is a decision maschine. I know one thing, he will not stand in front of Artur to get hit.
This is what people don't realize. Beterbiev is a better boxer than bivol he just adapts to his opponent. He's seen many bivol styles in the amateurs.
Beterbiev is the all around better boxer imo
Throw power on top of that and it’s curtains
Beats him with what though? Power? Aggression? Ring IQ?
Come on man, think logically here.
Bivol has a Russian style of boxing; basic 1-2, movement, circle and in and out. It's simple but ultra refined and it was enough to bamboozle Canelo.
Now, Beterbiev is 295-5 as an amateur and fought 90% opponents with the same style as Bivol - though they may not have been as perfect as Bivol.
Beterbiev has seen it all before. Bivol also is too small. Joe Smith dwarfed Bivol size wise in that ring whereas Beterbiev looked bigger than Smith.
Combine the natural size, power, EXPERIENCE and brute force and it only goes one way - Beterbiev by eventual KO
This is what people don't realize. Beterbiev is a better boxer than bivol he just adapts to his opponent. He's seen many bivol styles in the amateurs.