Are Mexicans ashamed of Ryan Garcia?

Lol he would immediately be Mexican if he showed really good promise in his career. And if he ends up becoming a great fighter, he will be Mexican. Watch him start collecting titles and getting some good wins, and you will see him becoming more accepted. Mexicans, like most countries, can be racist too. Both white on brown, and brown on white. I am not Mexican but I have been told by my Mexican neighbor about the racism in Mexico. Canelo is straight up Mexican, born there, raised there, native Spanish speaker, and he is hated and rejected by some Mexicans. But they accept David Benavidez, who’s American born. Sure he speaks Spanish but if that’s all that makes you a “real” Mexican then I guess I can claim Mexico is my country because I speak Spanish? Lol. They just like that Benavidez is a brown Mexican-American. And as a Latino immigrant myself, nobody has the right to tell Ryan Garcia that he isn’t a “real” Mexican. If he wants to represent his ancestors, that’s for him to decide. He wants to come in with the Mexican and American flag, he has that right. I think that’s a huge difference from the Caribbean and Mexico. Nobody from my country would tell me I am not from there because I speak English and live in the US. We all love and accept each other no matter what. When Danny Garcia, a Philly fighter who barely speaks Spanish, went to PR to fight, he was cheered, not booed. Some Mexicans are such self-haters, it’s like a different planet over there. We are Indians and Spanish, some Mexicans have strong European traits and some have stronger Indian traits. Most Mexicans and Chicanos don't like to acknowledge either but prefer National pride, whether it be American or Mexican. I know some Mexicans take serious offense to being called "indio." Here in the USA we often have a friend nicknamed indio or crow... lol Before Catholicism, we were a bunch of Indian tribes feuding with each other. Then after the Spanish conquest Mexicans continued feuding but as States. This tribal(ness) continued into the 19th century in the formation of Cartels and street gangs in the USA and Mexico. Still to this day the deadliest gang feud in US history has been between Southern and Northern California's Chicanos. Even as a non gang member or non affiliate, prison politics highly influenced culture here on the West Coast. But don't get it twisted, although we fight among ourselves, we do have plenty of Carnalismo. We are not going to allow anyone to oppress us. You mess with 1 frijole your going to get the whole burrito and maybe some tapatio.

According to Politics he's a Chicano/Southsider. There's a big difference between homies and Paisas. We have each other's backs but divide ourselves among ourselves. Other people seem to hate on that, idk why?

Is Erislandy Lara an African American? This is not a thread about Erislandy.

Case in point. You are ashamed that he is Mexican, you indirectly confirmed my initial Post Is Erislandy Lara an African American?

No......I just happen to be an actual Mexican.....from guess where......Mexico. Nice reply though, couldn't even address any actual points I made. Might be you who has an extra chromosome. Case in point. You are ashamed that he is Mexican, you indirectly confirmed my initial Post

Ryan is Mexican and STFU with this BS that most Mexicans dislike Canelo. Have you Down syndrome or something? No......I just happen to be an actual Mexican.....from guess where......Mexico. Nice reply though, couldn't even address any actual points I made. Might be you who has an extra chromosome.

You must be some weird Argentine to seriously think that reverse white racism is going to work. I literally already told you why Canelo is disliked amongst a PORTION of the Mexican population. Did/do you watch boxing on Televisa and Tv Azteca? If not then stfu. All of those who saw Canelo's career when he was being built (prior to signing with GBP) was always given the easiest pick of the litter....meanwhile Gallo Estrada, Cuadras (a WHITE MEXICAN), and even Oscar Valdez had to either go through the gauntlet in Mexico or go the Olympic route. I know you just like speaking out of your ass but all the top guys in Mexico have to fight each other BEFORE they even get opportunities to sign with GBP, PBC, TR, or Matchroom. And im seriously laughing that you consider Ryan a "white Mexican".....he looks nothing like Caleb Plant to me. And Canelo is a peasant from a crazy ass Mexican barrio where him and his father used to sell ice cream, and I am truly happy he doesn't have to live like that anymore. That doesn't change anything about what some might think of his career though. And what does South America or the Carribean have to do with anything? Last I checked they are not boxing power houses.....sorry but Mexico has actual standards when it comes to boxing. We don't have to accept anyone just because.......if you are Argentinian then of course you do becuase you guys literally produce ONE figher every 10-15 years....and if youre Puerto Rican, well I know you guys have to accept Danny Garcia becuase you guys haven't had anyone since Miguel Cotto. Ryan is Mexican and STFU with this BS that most Mexicans dislike Canelo. Have you Down syndrome or something?

Yeah, bullsh/t. Mexicans have some of the most self-loathing people of any Latin American country in the world. A lot of you hate the best active Mexican fighter in boxing. And a lot of you hate the most popular Mexican-American boxer in boxing, too. It doesn’t matter where they were born or what language they speak. You are all just self-loathing. Ya’ll hate eachother. Garcia and Canelo aren’t as hated by South Americans and Caribbeans as they are by their own people/ancestors. You are all an embarrassment. Just because they’re white Mexicans, you don’t like them. Okay, Ryan Garcia, you don’t like because he doesn’t speak Spanish. But what about Canelo? Dude barely speaks English and ya’ll still hate him. But David Benavidez, the Mexican-American with a limited resume, he gets a pass because he’s brown. You can’t get more Mexican than Ryan’s parents. They’re straight up Mexicans. So what their son was born in the US and lived a good life? He really has to be some peasant from a crazy ass Mexican barrio and have ties to a Mexican cartel for him to be accepted? That’s bullsh/t. Self-loathing, look it up. You must be some weird Argentine to seriously think that reverse white racism is going to work. I literally already told you why Canelo is disliked amongst a PORTION of the Mexican population. Did/do you watch boxing on Televisa and Tv Azteca? If not then stfu. All of those who saw Canelo's career when he was being built (prior to signing with GBP) was always given the easiest pick of the litter....meanwhile Gallo Estrada, Cuadras (a WHITE MEXICAN), and even Oscar Valdez had to either go through the gauntlet in Mexico or go the Olympic route. I know you just like speaking out of your ass but all the top guys in Mexico have to fight each other BEFORE they even get opportunities to sign with GBP, PBC, TR, or Matchroom. And im seriously laughing that you consider Ryan a "white Mexican".....he looks nothing like Caleb Plant to me. And Canelo is a peasant from a crazy ass Mexican barrio where him and his father used to sell ice cream, and I am truly happy he doesn't have to live like that anymore. That doesn't change anything about what some might think of his career though. And what does South America or the Carribean have to do with anything? Last I checked they are not boxing power houses.....sorry but Mexico has actual standards when it comes to boxing. We don't have to accept anyone just because.......if you are Argentinian then of course you do becuase you guys literally produce ONE figher every 10-15 years....and if youre Puerto Rican, well I know you guys have to accept Danny Garcia becuase you guys haven't had anyone since Miguel Cotto.

Lol nice try but no. Can Mexicans be racist? Of course we can. Funny how you try to say that Canelo is not like becuase of his light complication though........you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. If you live in the USA then most likely you saw Canelo's career from when he went to Golden Boy Promotions to the present day. The partial rejection in Mexico to Canelo stems form his early career when he was being built on Televisa.....not because he a light skinned freckled red head. David Benavidez is accepted by a lot of us Mexicans because he carries himself like one. He seems willing to fight anyone, comes out with our flag, speaks to us in spanish. Some Mexicans don't consider Mexican Americans as real Mexicans.....not me, if you are of Mexican heritage and are going to carry it proudly and honorably then I will never deny you the right to claim Mexican....... Ryan does NOT fit that bill. Yeah, bullsh/t. Mexicans have some of the most self-loathing people of any Latin American country in the world. A lot of you hate the best active Mexican fighter in boxing. And a lot of you hate the most popular Mexican-American boxer in boxing, too. It doesn’t matter where they were born or what language they speak. You are all just self-loathing. Ya’ll hate eachother. Garcia and Canelo aren’t as hated by South Americans and Caribbeans as they are by their own people/ancestors. You are all an embarrassment. Just because they’re white Mexicans, you don’t like them. Okay, Ryan Garcia, you don’t like because he doesn’t speak Spanish. But what about Canelo? Dude barely speaks English and ya’ll still hate him. But David Benavidez, the Mexican-American with a limited resume, he gets a pass because he’s brown. You can’t get more Mexican than Ryan’s parents. They’re straight up Mexicans. So what their son was born in the US and lived a good life? He really has to be some peasant from a crazy ass Mexican barrio and have ties to a Mexican cartel for him to be accepted? That’s bullsh/t. Self-loathing, look it up.

Latino Broner minus the Arrest Warrants. Fast hands, good power but is flat-footed and stiff as a board. Just put him in with the right opponent.

Lol nice try but no. Can Mexicans be racist? Of course we can. Funny how you try to say that Canelo is not like becuase of his light complication though........you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. If you live in the USA then most likely you saw Canelo's career from when he went to Golden Boy Promotions to the present day. The partial rejection in Mexico to Canelo stems form his early career when he was being built on Televisa.....not because he a light skinned freckled red head. David Benavidez is accepted by a lot of us Mexicans because he carries himself like one. He seems willing to fight anyone, comes out with our flag, speaks to us in spanish. Some Mexicans don't consider Mexican Americans as real Mexicans.....not me, if you are of Mexican heritage and are going to carry it proudly and honorably then I will never deny you the right to claim Mexican....... Ryan does NOT fit that bill. Facts, the Mexican boxing fans are some of the best in the world. They hate canelo because of his narcissistic diva antics and that he thinks the sport of boxing is beneath him. It has nothing to do with his skin color. The all love Gallo Estrada, JMM, and others. I have been to boxing matches in Mexico and the fans I spoke with had immense respect for guys like Demetrius Andrade and Terence Crawford.

Sorry pendejo but your point of view is coming from someone that grew up in the United States. Hate to break it to you but the rest of the world doesn't always view everything the same as you. Ryan can't even hold a conversation with an actual Mexican..... Yes, Ryan is mexican by heritage but he isn't even a Mexican American that tries to keep his Mexican customs. Plus we are talking boxing, and in boxing Mexicans and Mexican Americans hold different ideologies. Oscar De La Hoya is the greatest Mexican American to ever lace up the gloves.......he is hardly ever in the discussion of "Greatest Mexicans of all time". And your Floyd example is stupid. In todays age, African American is usually thought of as its own distinct group/classification. Erislandy Lara is a Black guy from Cuba who now hold American citizenship, I doubt he would be in the conversation of "Greatest African American of all time" (pretending is he was on that level of talent just for arguments sake). Well explained, bro. Kudos. I think the same, especially the example of Lara being a Black American but not Afro American, although Lara's original people are African, too. That's why I use specific phrases on here too. Personally, I'm African before American, and not too proud of the American part, either. I identify more by race than nationality. Nationalism is a mental illness in my view.

Lol he would immediately be Mexican if he showed really good promise in his career. And if he ends up becoming a great fighter, he will be Mexican. Watch him start collecting titles and getting some good wins, and you will see him becoming more accepted. Mexicans, like most countries, can be racist too. Both white on brown, and brown on white. I am not Mexican but I have been told by my Mexican neighbor about the racism in Mexico. Canelo is straight up Mexican, born there, raised there, native Spanish speaker, and he is hated and rejected by some Mexicans. But they accept David Benavidez, who’s American born. Sure he speaks Spanish but if that’s all that makes you a “real” Mexican then I guess I can claim Mexico is my country because I speak Spanish? Lol. They just like that Benavidez is a brown Mexican-American. And as a Latino immigrant myself, nobody has the right to tell Ryan Garcia that he isn’t a “real” Mexican. If he wants to represent his ancestors, that’s for him to decide. He wants to come in with the Mexican and American flag, he has that right. I think that’s a huge difference from the Caribbean and Mexico. Nobody from my country would tell me I am not from there because I speak English and live in the US. We all love and accept each other no matter what. When Danny Garcia, a Philly fighter who barely speaks Spanish, went to PR to fight, he was cheered, not booed. Some Mexicans are such self-haters, it’s like a different planet over there. Lol nice try but no. Can Mexicans be racist? Of course we can. Funny how you try to say that Canelo is not like becuase of his light complication though........you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. If you live in the USA then most likely you saw Canelo's career from when he went to Golden Boy Promotions to the present day. The partial rejection in Mexico to Canelo stems form his early career when he was being built on Televisa.....not because he a light skinned freckled red head. David Benavidez is accepted by a lot of us Mexicans because he carries himself like one. He seems willing to fight anyone, comes out with our flag, speaks to us in spanish. Some Mexicans don't consider Mexican Americans as real Mexicans.....not me, if you are of Mexican heritage and are going to carry it proudly and honorably then I will never deny you the right to claim Mexican....... Ryan does NOT fit that bill.

BS. Total fcukin BS. Floyd is black - meaning African-American, does that mean he’s African and not American? GTFOH with that **** - you can’t pick and choice to suit your narrative. Fact is, he’s Mexican. Wears Mexican colours and trains with Canelo team Sorry pendejo but your point of view is coming from someone that grew up in the United States. Hate to break it to you but the rest of the world doesn't always view everything the same as you. Ryan can't even hold a conversation with an actual Mexican..... Yes, Ryan is mexican by heritage but he isn't even a Mexican American that tries to keep his Mexican customs. Plus we are talking boxing, and in boxing Mexicans and Mexican Americans hold different ideologies. Oscar De La Hoya is the greatest Mexican American to ever lace up the gloves.......he is hardly ever in the discussion of "Greatest Mexicans of all time". And your Floyd example is stupid. In todays age, African American is usually thought of as its own distinct group/classification. Erislandy Lara is a Black man from Cuba who now hold American citizenship, I doubt he would be in the conversation of "Greatest African American of all time" (pretending he was on that level of talent just for arguments sake).

At this moment they will say he is not Mexican. The minute he wins a couple of fights they will say that he is a full Mexican.

No one cares. He hasn't proved that he can hang with any good fighter. Just all talk.

Man Cryin Garcia…. #1. Does not speak the native language. His father Henry had to translate everything from the Reynoso family and Nelo to Cryin. #. Born bred and raised in the USA #. Doesn’t train with Nelo anymore bc he had trouble with the real mf G’s in Mexico #. His parents may be of Mexican decent, which makes him Mexican American as another poster so explicitly explained above. The true Mexicans that I know laugh about him, if they have even heard of him. 1 in 5 don’t even know who he is That’s not Ryan Garcia’s fault. Blame his parents for birthing him in the United States. Mexicans want to leave Mexico to live in the US and raise their children there, the American Dream. Then hate on those who are born in the US, live a better life, due to their Mexican parents looking out for them and giving them that opportunity. Those Mexicans “laughing” at Ryan Garcia are a bunch of fools. They’re laughing at the outcome of two Mexican’s “American Dream”.

Lol he would immediately be Mexican if he showed really good promise in his career. And if he ends up becoming a great fighter, he will be Mexican. Watch him start collecting titles and getting some good wins, and you will see him becoming more accepted. Mexicans, like most countries, can be racist too. Both white on brown, and brown on white. I am not Mexican but I have been told by my Mexican neighbor about the racism in Mexico. Canelo is straight up Mexican, born there, raised there, native Spanish speaker, and he is hated and rejected by some Mexicans. But they accept David Benavidez, who’s American born. Sure he speaks Spanish but if that’s all that makes you a “real” Mexican then I guess I can claim Mexico is my country because I speak Spanish? Lol. They just like that Benavidez is a brown Mexican-American. And as a Latino immigrant myself, nobody has the right to tell Ryan Garcia that he isn’t a “real” Mexican. If he wants to represent his ancestors, that’s for him to decide. He wants to come in with the Mexican and American flag, he has that right. I think that’s a huge difference from the Caribbean and Mexico. Nobody from my country would tell me I am not from there because I speak English and live in the US. We all love and accept each other no matter what. When Danny Garcia, a Philly fighter who barely speaks Spanish, went to PR to fight, he was cheered, not booed. Some Mexicans are such self-haters, it’s like a different planet over there.

Man Cryin Garcia…. #1. Does not speak the native language. His father Henry had to translate everything from the Reynoso family and Nelo to Cryin. #. Born bred and raised in the USA #. Doesn’t train with Nelo anymore bc he had trouble with the real mf G’s in Mexico #. His parents may be of Mexican decent, which makes him Mexican American as another poster so explicitly explained above. The true Mexicans that I know laugh about him, if they have even heard of him. 1 in 5 don’t even know who he is

Why would they be ashamed of a non mexican boxer? Mexico is a world power in boxing, they have enough champs, they don't need to be claiming chicanos from Yankeeland who can't even speak spanish as their own same thing applies to Mikey Garcia, de la Hoya, David Benavidez, Brandon Rios, etc Andy Ruiz is the one and only exception I guess, because at least he speaks fluent spanish, lived many years in Mexico and represented Mexico in the olympics Only countries who have no national talent (or not enough of it), embrace foreigners as their own just because they have same ¨genes / roots¨, like pricans do with Danny Garcia