None. How can you be an ATG when your best win is a controversial decision over an aging boxer? If Canelo keeps going like this he's not going to be remembered as an ATG fighter.
Margarito had already beat Cotto and Pacquiao destroyed Cotto all before fighting Fraud.
Cotto may very well be a greater fighter than GGG, but Gayweather fought him when he had been beaten twice.
Beating 2018 undefeated GGG >>>>>>>>>> beating 2012 two loss Cotto.
I think he is pointing out that Canelo beating Cotto was greater than him beating GGG, not Mayweather. Margarito cheated in his first fight against Cotto and lost the rematch. I will say though that if I thought Canelo won against GGG, that would be a better win.
He is glorified B level fighter with many gifts and clear losses to Mayweather and Bivol. His best clear win is old Cotto. The most of fans also felt like he lost to GGG.
His fans don`t even follow the sport.
Castillo, Hatton and Corrales.
Shane and Manny were ranked ahead of or same as GGG even though they weren’t prime.
You imbeciles run with the “prime” thing to pretend if Shane, Manny, and ODH would’ve decided to fight Floyd earlier rather than wait, they’d have won.
Deep down everyone of you who posts that knows Floyd was going to beat them no matter when they fought.
That is why they all waited to fight Floyd. Sad that y’all hate Floyd so much that you reward the cowardice of the guys you like.
When you’re a diehard fan of a loser you have to come up with some fake and phony way to make the loss better and to make the guy that won worse.
As Floyd fans we don’t have to.
LOL those are the names you came up with? Are they in the Hall of Fame?
Castillo had 4 losses going into the Gayweather fight.
Corrales was a good win, but it was in 2001. The hell else did Gayweather do for 15 years?
Hatton? Lol. Is he really great? Pacquiao blasted him out way worse. You know the version of Pacquiao that Gayweather was afraid of.
For all the sh.it you Fl0mos give Canelo about fighting these "Eurobums" like Saunders, Smith etc. you f.ags are sure quick to always have Hatton as one of Gayweather's top wins.
Pacquiao had some losses one of them being a brutal KO. He was nowhere near the same level as undefeated GGG.
BALCO Mosley? Lol. That cheating f.ag was off the juice when he fought Gayweather. Plus he had a whole bunch of losses. His career is a big fraud with how much he cheated and got multiple wins with steroids.
Face it Gayweather is an overhyped fraud that was afraid of prime Pacquiao or any tough challenge. Plus he sucks on man meat.
I'll ask you too
Name me one great prime fighter Gayweather fought. Also, name me one fighter that Gayweather fought that was on the level of GGG when Canelo fought him.
Castillo, Hatton and Corrales.
Shane and Manny were ranked ahead of or same as GGG even though they weren’t prime.
You imbeciles run with the “prime” thing to pretend if Shane, Manny, and ODH would’ve decided to fight Floyd earlier rather than wait, they’d have won.
Deep down everyone of you who posts that knows Floyd was going to beat them no matter when they fought.
That is why they all waited to fight Floyd. Sad that y’all hate Floyd so much that you reward the cowardice of the guys you like.
When you’re a diehard fan of a loser you have to come up with some fake and phony way to make the loss better and to make the guy that won worse.
As Floyd fans we don’t have to.
I think the GGG win defines Canelo’s legacy.
That legacy being a great fighter whose highest profile wins are questioned by many because of the scorecards.
Lara, Trout, GGG win- each fight fans and media have questioned the scoring. Doesn’t mean he didn’t win each.
Still imo a great fighter who I am confident will get a career elevating win soon.
True, how can GGG win not be career defining, he got a win and a draw didnt he? Some didnt think SRL beat Hagler, but im sure that was career defining also.
I think the GGG win defines Canelo’s legacy.
That legacy being a great fighter whose highest profile wins are questioned by many because of the scorecards.
Lara, Trout, GGG win- each fight fans and media have questioned the scoring. Doesn’t mean he didn’t win each.
The losses and draws illustrate this point even more.
Fans and media were very critical of him being given the draw with GGG, 6 rounds in one card v Floyd, and given 5 rounds against Bivol on all cards.
Still imo a great fighter who I am confident will get a career elevating win soon.
I guess that’s OP’s point… his legacy is defined by an undeserved draw which should have been a loss, and an either way fight
Quantity is valuable and Canelo has an extensive list of names, but no greats on there other than an older Shane and Cotto… at least in terms of convincing victories
Every boxer Floyd fought at 147 he was giving up at least 15-20lbs of weight. Canelo has been the heavier man in every fight of his pro career.
That didn't answer the question I asked.
I'll ask you too
Name me one great prime fighter Gayweather fought. Also, name me one fighter that Gayweather fought that was on the level of GGG when Canelo fought him.
Every boxer Floyd fought at 147 he was giving up at least 15-20lbs of weight. Canelo has been the heavier man in every fight of his pro career.
How can anyone take this poster seriously after this post?
I'll ask you too
Name me one great prime fighter Gayweather fought. Also, name me one fighter that Gayweather fought that was on the level of GGG when Canelo fought him.
Oh yeah, he made a million excuses not to fight Cepillo.
He used to sttuter when ask about Casamayor. I thought back them that it was a 50/50, the Cuban was in his prime and wasn't heavy into drinking.
None. How can you be an ATG when your best win is a controversial decision over an aging boxer? If Canelo keeps going like this he's not going to be remembered as an ATG fighter.
I think the GGG win defines Canelo’s legacy.
That legacy being a great fighter whose highest profile wins are questioned by many because of the scorecards.
Lara, Trout, GGG win- each fight fans and media have questioned the scoring. Doesn’t mean he didn’t win each.
The losses and draws illustrate this point even more.
Fans and media were very critical of him being given the draw with GGG, 6 rounds in one card v Floyd, and given 5 rounds against Bivol on all cards.
Still imo a great fighter who I am confident will get a career elevating win soon.
Canelo's draw against GGG is better than any win Gayweather has ever had. Gayweather never fought anyone on the level of what GGG was at the time.
And I'm not talking about GGG being better than someone like Marquez or Pac. I'm talking about the point in time when he fought them, like Pacquiao for example, he was past it and already had some losses when Gayweather finally nutted up and fought him.
How can anyone take this poster seriously after this post?
Beating Cotto > beating GGG.
Margarito had already beat Cotto and Pacquiao destroyed Cotto all before fighting Fraud.
Cotto may very well be a greater fighter than GGG, but Gayweather fought him when he had been beaten twice.
Beating 2018 undefeated GGG >>>>>>>>>> beating 2012 two loss Cotto.
ggg is literally a hypejob lol. at least floyd fought great fighters.
Name me one great prime fighter Gayweather fought. Also, name me one fighter that Gayweather fought that was on the level of GGG when Canelo fought him.
Maybe GGG has his number. But Cotto is a far better fighter. 4 division champ, 1x lineal. GGG was never "the man" at any division, and his best wins don't compare to Cotto's best wins. Even though the rematch was close, I felt Canelo won fair and square. Cotto wasn't prime, but I'd still rank it higher. Just my opinion.
Oh Cotto definitely has a far better resume, but GGG at 160 at that time was a much harder opponent to beat that Cotto at 155, who was really more of a junior welterweight. But even then Cotto never went on a dominant run, I'll never forget his fight with Paulie. It's sad, nobody on this site gives anybody credit for losses even if they perform well, but Paulie went in there, in a very hostile crowd at MSG against a prime cotto, took a vicious head butt early and fought that entire fight with 1 eye. Still knew he was down on the cards and too the fight to Cotto, takin 5 rounds on my cards against a prime motto, and this was with just 1 eye.
But it's like let's say Bivol beats Beterbiev in a close decision, it's like saying who is a better win, canelo or beterbiev, well obviously canelo has the better resume but Beteibev harder to beat at 175.
I doubt it since everyone agrees Cotto won easily, but the majority of people scored both fights for GGG.
But I know most canelo fans say that the media is bull****, fine, let's look at the judges scorecards in that fight. The judges who are notoriously biased against Canelo. I do agree that the media gets **** wrong a lot.
Weisfeld 7-5 Canelo (same guy who scored the Bivol fight 7-5)
Moretti 7-5 Canelo (same guy who scored the Bivol fight 7-5)(
Glenn Feldman 6-6.
This means 2 things, if the judges are correct then it was a very close fight with G only needing 1 round on 1 judge's cards to retain his belts. Compare that to the Cotto scorecards who all had Canelo way ahead, it's obvious that version of GGG did better than that version Cotto. Neither were close to their prime.
Maybe GGG has his number. But Cotto is a far better fighter. 4 division champ, 1x lineal. GGG was never "the man" at any division, and his best wins don't compare to Cotto's best wins. Even though the rematch was close, I felt Canelo won fair and square. Cotto wasn't prime, but I'd still rank it higher. Just my opinion.
Beating Cotto > beating GGG.
I doubt it since everyone agrees Cotto won easily, but the majority of people scored both fights for GGG.
But I know most canelo fans say that the media is bullshit, fine, let's look at the judges scorecards in that fight. The judges who are notoriously biased against Canelo. I do agree that the media gets shit wrong a lot.
Weisfeld 7-5 Canelo (same guy who scored the Bivol fight 7-5)
Moretti 7-5 Canelo (same guy who scored the Bivol fight 7-5)(
Glenn Feldman 6-6.
This means 2 things, if the judges are correct then it was a very close fight with G only needing 1 round on 1 judge's cards to retain his belts. Compare that to the Cotto scorecards who all had Canelo way ahead, it's obvious that version of GGG did better than that version Cotto. Neither were close to their prime.