Canelo looked worse than he did vs Mayweather

You think CJ Ross payed herself? :dunno: :lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1:

It is his fault! He's paying them. . :lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QTvnk1XDP8&t=1780s

Where can I watch the full canelo vs Floyd fight if it’s not on YouTube anymore

Not in canelo's case, he's getting win credit for people he lost to. That's the entire debate! That's not his fault, that the fault of corrupt judges. And as you stated earlier, in which I've quoted you, Alvarez fought top competition, he just lost to them. Again in boxing, win, lose or draw...all we ask for is the best to fight the best...Alvarez has done that.

Against Floyd he was dominated a bit more but I think he actually looked much better as a fighter. He actually tried to box much more, threw more punches, jabs, with overall more offensive variety. It shows in the punch stats also. I always laughed at the 'canelo has improved so much' crap, and its been proven to be total crap now. He has actually regressed as a fighter as he turned into a mediocre Tyson wanna be looking for the 1 big punch. lol. I wonder if the same thing that happened to Donaire happened to Canelo. Donaire got into his hype, relied on a one big shot Wonder if Canelo fell victim to this as well.

If nel o did better against bivol then the 19 light heavyweight fighters bivol has fought thats a good result. If nel o didn't look good please give bivol some credit for doing that to nelo, and don't just say nelos not improved? Nel o has fought many good fighters recently and boxing fans can tell if he's improved these last 8 years or not Canelo looked worse than the most of Bivol`s other opponents. Joe Smith jr. cracked Bivol big time.

Your an idiot. He improved after Mayweather cause he started using the same techniques as Mayweather. As far as him looking worse, we’ll, what can I say, fighting Mayweather at 23 and fighting Bivol at 32. Age has a way of slowing us all down. I also think his arrogance has improved while his abilities have withered. Perfectly put.

Your an idiot. He improved after Mayweather cause he started using the same techniques as Mayweather. As far as him looking worse, we’ll, what can I say, fighting Mayweather at 23 and fighting Bivol at 32. Age has a way of slowing us all down. I also think his arrogance has improved while his abilities have withered. So suddenly Canelo is no longer in his prime? lul

Against Floyd he was dominated a bit more but I think he actually looked much better as a fighter. He actually tried to box much more, threw more punches, jabs, with overall more offensive variety. It shows in the punch stats also. I always laughed at the 'canelo has improved so much' crap, and its been proven to be total crap now. He has actually regressed as a fighter as he turned into a mediocre Tyson wanna be looking for the 1 big punch. lol. Your an idiot. He improved after Mayweather cause he started using the same techniques as Mayweather. As far as him looking worse, we’ll, what can I say, fighting Mayweather at 23 and fighting Bivol at 32. Age has a way of slowing us all down. I also think his arrogance has improved while his abilities have withered.

We know!. Lost to Lara, lost to GGG, lost to Jacobs, lost to Bivol, lost to Mayweather. Agreed but fought all of that quality opposition...and whether he won, lose or draws, that's all that matters.

If nel o did better against bivol then the 19 light heavyweight fighters bivol has fought thats a good result. If nel o didn't look good please give bivol some credit for doing that to nelo, and don't just say nelos not improved? Nel o has fought many good fighters recently and boxing fans can tell if he's improved these last 8 years or not

Everyone is a C-level fighter...Jesus Christ, did Canelo fight any elite fighters beside Mayweather & Bivol? This right here. Canelo lost but let’s not act like he hasn’t fought quality opposition.

Against Floyd he was dominated a bit more but I think he actually looked much better as a fighter. He actually tried to box much more, threw more punches, jabs, with overall more offensive variety. It shows in the punch stats also. I always laughed at the 'canelo has improved so much' crap, and its been proven to be total crap now. He has actually regressed as a fighter as he turned into a mediocre Tyson wanna be looking for the 1 big punch. lol. - - Bivol knocks out l'l floydy and his crack daddy inside 2 rounds, but Canelo gonna rematch him.

Originally posted by Queen_Leia View Post Alvarez (like Joshua) has a BAD gas tank but he changed his style to where his opponent never exposed that. Bivol is the first fighter in 9 year to expose that because he made Alvarez fight at a pace where his gas tank let him down. By the mid-to-late round, he was tired, going to the ropes and his punches lost steam & fatigue also affected his defense and Bivol really turned it up & started tagging him with a simple 1-2. Brilliant game plan from Bivol...make Alvarez fight at a pace where he can't rest. If Alvarez can fix his stamina, he'll beat Bivol in the rematch...not because he's the better fighter but he'll have enough energy to sustain throwing the eye catching punches, his defense will be a little tighter & he won't retreat the rope, thus swaying the corrupt judges. Without fixing his stamina, Alvarez will always lose to Bivol. Man you said this above lol. Emphasis on the bolded parts. GGG beat Canelo pretty much the same style that Bivol did - he outworked him. GGG's gas tank was what won him those fights mainly. GGG - Canelo 1, GGG threw about 700 punches, that's about what BIvol threw vs Canelo. Exactly...you've quoted me perfectly.

Okay then, there's Floyd Mayweather, who elite. Whether he lost or not is irrelevant as long as he fought him. Totally agreed.

Yes, one, and that's Floyd. Fair enough.

Elite fighters? Like who? Jacobs? At the height of his career, Jacobs was a B/B- fighter, so are Lara and GGG. Who are the elites you speak of? I don't consider even Canelo himself 'elite.' What's Canelo's career defining fight? There isn't one. Canelo's defining fight is a loss to Floyd. Okay then, there's Floyd Mayweather, who elite. Whether he lost or not is irrelevant as long as he fought him.

No I didn't lmao! You said This is what we want all fighter to do, fight the very best whether win, lose or draw. and I said He doesn't though, he cherry picks and this time it went wrong. Get your head out of your boyfriends butthole before reading please. Thank you! HA HA HA HA...okay, let's go. I originally wrote: Everyone is a C-level fighter...Jesus Christ, did Canelo fight any elite fighters beside Mayweather & Bivol? And you responded with (note the bold): Yes and lost every single one of them. He's a cherry pickah and if you don't know it by now you're head over heels, helplesssly in love. Yeah we know, you suck...but it's okay, we forgive you. ;)

No I'm not. Originally posted by Queen_Leia View Post Alvarez (like Joshua) has a BAD gas tank but he changed his style to where his opponent never exposed that. Bivol is the first fighter in 9 year to expose that because he made Alvarez fight at a pace where his gas tank let him down. By the mid-to-late round, he was tired, going to the ropes and his punches lost steam & fatigue also affected his defense and Bivol really turned it up & started tagging him with a simple 1-2. Brilliant game plan from Bivol...make Alvarez fight at a pace where he can't rest. If Alvarez can fix his stamina, he'll beat Bivol in the rematch...not because he's the better fighter but he'll have enough energy to sustain throwing the eye catching punches, his defense will be a little tighter & he won't retreat the rope, thus swaying the corrupt judges. Without fixing his stamina, Alvarez will always lose to Bivol. Man you said this above lol. Emphasis on the bolded parts. GGG beat Canelo pretty much the same style that Bivol did - he outworked him. GGG's gas tank was what won him those fights mainly. GGG - Canelo 1, GGG threw about 700 punches, that's about what BIvol threw vs Canelo.