this, andrande's resume is trash, he went to his mid 30s with never beating anyone but club fighters and tomato cans, i dont want to hear about how he is a threat to the elites ever again he didnt have the spine to challenge any of them
It is trash, but I don’t think it’s about ‘spine’. I don’t think many boxers are scared of other boxers; at least maybe not as scared as they are of the occasion.
His problems are (1) he has no fan base, so brings no revenue to a match, (2) while he’s not a world beater, he’s a bit slippery to fight, and (3) all his rivals are with other promoters; promoters who hate DAZN and Hearn, so won’t do business with him.
Watch him get matched with which ever MW there is in any new stable he joins.
I'm sorry, but with respect, Bivol is bigger and far better than Charlo and Andrade.
this, andrande's resume is trash, he went to his mid 30s with never beating anyone but club fighters and tomato cans, i dont want to hear about how he is a threat to the elites ever again he didnt have the spine to challenge any of them
bivol pieces up GGG pretty damn bad. maybe even stops him, we havent seen GGG pull his tampon out of his vagina and move up to 175 so hard to picture what he looks like there but he will be slower and bivol got good movement and good handspeed. he ate some shots from smith he isnt afraid of GGGs power which was a big deal at middle weight .
I'm agreeing with you.
I was also relaying my thoughts to people who hold Nelo at a higher standard than ''someone'' else.
That other guy's fan base hates Nelo because he is a constant reminder of what GGG was doing when he was 31 :lol1:
Ok Lol I read your comment wrong and comparably there are hardly any fighters right now that can say they are taking the challenges that Canelo does if any. Maybe Usyk can say that but he had the 2 easier fights at heavyweight before moving up.
I do believe Canelo strategically picked Bivol. I do believe he thinks that Bivol is far less of a threat than Andrade or Charlo. I don't think that's true but I definitely think Canelo does. I think he thinks he has the European style down, but Bivol is on a different level from his past opponents.
I'm sorry, but with respect, Bivol is bigger and far better than Charlo and Andrade.
at LHW
I'm thinking 12-0.
There would be nothing controversial about it.
Canelo cherrypicked the wrong dude.
10-2, I reckon.
But this 'cherrypick' talk can be absurd sometimes. If you want to clean up at LHW, then you have to fight all of the belt holders. Hardly a 'cherry pick'
How in the hell did all that mess come from my post? I'm not a super fan of Canelo and damn sure not of GGG by any stretch. I put GGG in the same class as Broner just not "ghetto" he could have had a decent career legacy wise because he has talent but he wasnt willing to roll the dice enough for me. I still wont say he cherry picked opponents because even the weakest of fighters at a certain level are dangerous in a ring.
I'm agreeing with you.
I was also relaying my thoughts to people who hold Nelo at a higher standard than ''someone'' else.
That other guy's fan base hates Nelo because he is a constant reminder of what GGG was doing when he was 31 :lol1:
As if ''less'' dangerous means not dangerous at all :lol1:
I don't recall these same critics bashing GGG for fighting Kamil, Rolls, Murata, Vanes.......Remove Nelo from GGG's resume and there is nothing.
Talk about taking the easy road.
How in the hell did all that mess come from my post? I'm not a super fan of Canelo and damn sure not of GGG by any stretch. I put GGG in the same class as Broner just not "ghetto" he could have had a decent career legacy wise because he has talent but he wasnt willing to roll the dice enough for me. I still wont say he cherry picked opponents because even the weakest of fighters at a certain level are dangerous in a ring.
I do believe Canelo strategically picked Bivol. I do believe he thinks that Bivol is far less of a threat than Andrade or Charlo. I don't think that's true but I definitely think Canelo does. I think he thinks he has the European style down, but Bivol is on a different level from his past opponents.
Its not a cherry pick by definition but I agree I think he views him as a less threat than those guys like Charlo even tho they smaller
38 yo GGG boxed on the backfoot and beat Canelo 7-5 making him 2-0 against Canelo.
Now Canelo is stepping up against a prime Bivol. this is a huge step up. i cann't believe people are saying he's a cherrypick
Why are we matching a 38 year with Biv or ANY LHW ?
Is that when his career officially started ?
GGG has little show for himself.
He wasn't a man of his anyone rom 154-168 word and his fans NEVER held him to it.
They just cry about how old he is
My bad. They never mention age when GGG fights ANYONE ELSE.
GGG can go on fighting stiffs like Kamil, Rolls, Murata and GGG's age is of no importance.
Say what you want about the 1st fight.
The 2nd fight was decidedly Nelo.
In both fights, GGG was 90% jab and 100 % headhunting. Very rarely landing any combos.
I believe every fighter at the top strategically picks their opponents but that doesnt make the opponent a cherry pick. That's plain out strategy and shows a fighter with a plan whether that being a monetary end goal or legacy defining goal. Cherry pick is a term used way too often in our sport IMO
As if ''less'' dangerous means not dangerous at all :lol1:
I don't recall these same critics bashing GGG for fighting Kamil, Rolls, Murata, Vanes.......Remove Nelo from GGG's resume and there is nothing.
Talk about taking the easy road.
The last time I remember enjoying a Canelo fight was his mismatch against Liam Smith.
His Euro tour is very forgettable, including Golovkin. Bivol is a good fighter.
I don't care who wins.
War Boxing!:boxing:
The thought of GGG, at ANY point in his career, moving up :lol1: !!!!!
Any version of Biv kills any version of GGG at LHW
This is why GGG stayed a MW for so long. Hiding behind some fan excuse of people being too scared to fight him....even in the higher div :lol1: !!!!!
I do believe Canelo strategically picked Bivol. I do believe he thinks that Bivol is far less of a threat than Andrade or Charlo. I don't think that's true but I definitely think Canelo does. I think he thinks he has the European style down, but Bivol is on a different level from his past opponents.
I believe every fighter at the top strategically picks their opponents but that doesnt make the opponent a cherry pick. That's plain out strategy and shows a fighter with a plan whether that being a monetary end goal or legacy defining goal. Cherry pick is a term used way too often in our sport IMO
Biased media scorecards and forum noobs: GGG Almost all of ATGs and HOFs: Canelo
Only an idiot scores second fight for GGGeezer. He should keep fighting against Kamil, Robota, Rolls for his health. :lol1:
The fighters and trainers are by far the most ignorant and biased, they're the same people calling Bivol a cherry pick
that black slickness still gives him nightmares. he hasn't fought a slick bruvva since Lara. And before that was Mayweather. bad memories.
Jacobs isn't slick.
Anyone can look good but when they face a slick black fighter become exposed real quick. Look at the look on Canelo's face when Valdez lost to Stevenson.
Like I said I do think Bivol is a harder fight because of the size but everyone, even the most hardcore canelo fans, know it's a fact that canelo carefully avoided Andrade and the charlos for years.
But again Dmitry Bivol is a great fighter and this is a true challenge for canelo.
I do believe Canelo strategically picked Bivol. I do believe he thinks that Bivol is far less of a threat than Andrade or Charlo. I don't think that's true but I definitely think Canelo does. I think he thinks he has the European style down, but Bivol is on a different level from his past opponents.
that black slickness still gives him nightmares. he hasn't fought a slick bruvva since Lara. And before that was Mayweather. bad memories.
Jacobs isn't slick.