I think so, yes.
He's only lost to one of the greatest HWs of all time, and at least he gave Fury a good go in the 1st and 3rd fights. Look what Fury just did to Whyte, who was apparently a solid top 5 HW.
Yep Wilder who never fought wlad, aj, parker, ruiz, povetkin or pulev...yes definitely 3rd best...herp derp!
UNDISPUTED ‘He knocks everybody else out but me’ – Tyson Fury backs Deontay Wilder to beat the winner of Oleksandr Usyk vs Anthony Joshua 2 for all the belts
I'm gonna roll with the Champ over you and your comments.
you think wilder would beat usyk? i mean its possible but pretty unlikely. fury is just hyping up wilder because it makes him look better because he knows the reality is wilder has no resume to fall back on and wilder was just built on hype
Ortiz got skills! Wilder did WAY better then Whyte like I said he would.
way better? against fury? he was pummeled in the last 2 fights and dominated. you mean in the first fight? yes he did do better but at that time fury was barely beating guys like otto wallin. the fury that whyte fought was clearly much better than the fury from the first wilder fight and that was proven when fury dominated wilder in the second and third fight. wilder even admitted he tried to cherry pick an out of shape rusty fury in the first fight. he literally said it leading up to the 2nd fight. fury even said he wasnt ready to fight anyone good and needed 3 more fights when he took the wilder fight. he wasnt very good in that fight and all the evidence shows that clearly. yet he still won and yet thats what you are using to prove wilder is some great fighter? a loss to a guy he tried to cherry pick? very strange
ortiz may have "skills" but he has no resume.
so usyk is above wilder even though the only thing usyk has done is beat a heartless, chinless, fighter? someone who wilder would end in 3 rounds. sounds like you need to just put wilder at number 2 and go with your fantasy rankings. you know you want to
Wilder has lost 2 fights in a row by KO, Usyk is undefeated. Rankings are not the same thing as a list of whom would beat whom.
Wilder at 3, who arguably lost 3 fights in a row. Nah. Hes at the back end of top 10 imo
but in between those 3 fights he also lost every round to an ancient ortiz before getting the ko. the same ortiz who lost every round to charles martin before getting a miraculous ko. great stuff.
Wilder at 3, who arguably lost 3 fights in a row. Nah. Hes at the back end of top 10 imo
but he had a close fight with the fury who had a close fight with otto wallin. that proves how great he is...
Joshua is a heartless, chinless, finished fighter. He doesn't last 3 rounds with Wilder and he never even lays a glove on Fury.
C. Fury
1. Usyk
2. Wilder
3. Joshua
4. Ruiz
5. old man Ortiz
But there's a huge dropoff after Wilder.
so usyk is above wilder even though the only thing usyk has done is beat a heartless, chinless, fighter? someone who wilder would end in 3 rounds. sounds like you need to just put wilder at number 2 and go with your fantasy rankings. you know you want to
Ahem, neigh-eth good sir. Mister Tyson Fury is retired.
Wilder
Usyk
Joshua
Ruiz
Joyce
As far as Boxrec/TBRB/Ring stupid points system give Joshua a slot over Wilder for fighting Pulev. Which is why no one not bound by a computer program gives a **** except the usual Joshua nuthuggers and Wilder haters. No one gives a **** about that win, to the point they will not even present it directly as a reason to rate Joshua above Wilder, but hide it behind a banner folks respect and bingo jingo you got a reason to rate Joshua 100% based on the Pulev fight.
in 2020 Wilder had 660 points
in 2020 Joshua had 554 points
Usyk had 318
Usyk beats Chisora, a fight no one gives a **** about or brags on Usyk for
Joshua beats Pulev, a fight not mentioned in a positive light since its announcement.
Wilder loses to Fury in a fight Fury brings up every time he speaks, other fans can't stop talking about, and has been the measuring tool for how good Whyte is even though Wilder and Whyte never fought.
It's not hard to see, Earl Hickey is a troll and none of you actually respect what Joshua did to get rated in their stupid points games over Wilder while plenty of you do respect how close Wilder came to beating Fury.
At the end of the day, Joshua was meant to win, he's losing fights he's favored in. Not just bookie favored, favored here too. Wilder did much better than predicted to the point where the Fury fans had to walk back how hard they go in on Deontay. He went from being an absolute bum with no hope and no chance to the man who pushed Tyson Fury into his best performances to date.
yeah the points are stupid so lets look at resumes and joshua's resume is much better than wilders. why would wilder be ahead simply for losing to fury 3 times? and 2 of those were in dominant fashion. in fact the only somewhat close fight was when fury was fat, rusty, and wilder cherry picked him off of undercards(wilders words) when fury actually got his rhythm back he beat wilder easily. we have to judge them based on what they have actually accomplished and for wilder thats very little. pulev would be wilders 2nd best win of his career so that should tell you a lot about his level of competition. thats probably joshuas 6th best win on his resume in comparison.
also wilder was favored in the first 2 fury fights and he lost them so im not sure what this meant to win thing means. either you beat good fighters or you dont. joshua has beaten far more. they have both lost but losing to a better fighter doesnt make up for the lack of a quality resume and shouldnt vault you ahead.
Bovada has Wilder at -170, while most other books have him around -150 or so.
Online sportsbook Bovada has Wilder as the slight -125 favorite for this rematch with Fury coming back at +105
You could be right. Actually ruiz and parker i forgot about them. But Wilder should be no4 as in 3 attempts to beat fury he failed. If Usyk or josh fought Fury 3 times, they have at least a win over fury in my opinion.
Joshua is a heartless, chinless, finished fighter. He doesn't last 3 rounds with Wilder and he never even lays a glove on Fury.
C. Fury
1. Usyk
2. Wilder
3. Joshua
4. Ruiz
5. old man Ortiz
But there's a huge dropoff after Wilder.
Joyce is way, way too high. He's a big stiff robot picking the bones of shot fighters (Stiverne, Ustinov, Jennings, Takam) and he's way too overrated off Dubois being too simple to avoid the world's slowest jab.
- - How slow U boxing IQ?
Uno digit?
Joyce is way, way too high. He's a big stiff robot picking the bones of shot fighters (Stiverne, Ustinov, Jennings, Takam) and he's way too overrated off Dubois being too simple to avoid the world's slowest jab.
You could be right. Actually ruiz and parker i forgot about them. But Wilder should be no4 as in 3 attempts to beat fury he failed. If Usyk or josh fought Fury 3 times, they have at least a win over fury in my opinion.
Its close but I still rank Usyk ahead of Fury. Theres a clear reason Fury ducked that fight and it wasnt any step aside payment.
Usyk
Fury
Joshua
Wilder
White
Parker
Ruiz
Joyce
Joyce is way, way too high. He's a big stiff robot picking the bones of shot fighters (Stiverne, Ustinov, Jennings, Takam) and he's way too overrated off Dubois being too simple to avoid the world's slowest jab.
Before Fury he was an unbeaten 5yr WBC champion, destroyed all challengers. Joshua got KO'd by a fat man and schooled by a CW, how can you rank him ahead of Wilder?
Joshua beat Wlad, Povetkin and Whyte, who did the twerker beat, other than a geriatric Cuban on heart medication?
And during those five years he fought guys barely in the top 30 instead of unifying. He was a protected bum and got whooped all three times he stepped up.
Parker needs to ensure that he gets lots of sparring with the Gypsy King.
For me its a 50/50 fight.
I can't see him doing anything to joyce, he's happy to lose. Losing by UD will set him up for Dubois. Then he can go on to fight guys like Hrgovic and maybe frazer clarke, adeleye and maybe a whyte rematch or even hughie fury.
all in all he'll earn decent money from all them fights. he is happy with that.
yeah, wilder is definitely 3rd best LOOL
I think so, yes.
He's only lost to one of the greatest HWs of all time, and at least he gave Fury a good go in the 1st and 3rd fights. Look what Fury just did to Whyte, who was apparently a solid top 5 HW.
If you don't increase your boxing knowledge soon, Queen, the Great Nash will have to mentor you. Show you the ropes. Unless Denium wants to mentor you and I can be 2nd in command, as Nash is also mentoring Stuntman Mike, who is a helluva Stuntman, but needs boxing education just like you. We are rooting for you, Queen. Nash out.
This drunk fool is still around? He's one of the very few people I've been forced to put on ignore. I don't mind trolls as long as they have a bit of banter, but this guy is just your typical halfwit.