Joshua has no chance. We know this. As for Usyk, he’s way too small and doesn’t have enough power to win. He couldn’t outbox Fury from the outside, due to the reach. On the inside Usyk would get mugged. Fury would be at least -500 in that fight. I do think Usyk beats Joshua in the rematch.
Correct.
Yet you're adamant that guys have zero chance against Fury.
It's a fight. Anything can happen.
I never said zero chance i just agreed they are heavy underdogs for simple and obvious reasons.
Joshua has no chance. We know this. As for Usyk, he’s way too small and doesn’t have enough power to win. He couldn’t outbox Fury from the outside, due to the reach. On the inside Usyk would get mugged. Fury would be at least -500 in that fight. I do think Usyk beats Joshua in the rematch.
Fury's ability to lean down on a guy is a tough weapon to over come.
AJ and Usyk will be able to avoid that for the most part.
They aren't as reckless and clumsy as Wilder
They are many levels above Whyte.
AJ also beat Wlad
I would have put money on Usyk beating that version of Wlad.
I would be interested to see how Usyk would go about it. Obviously he is very high IQ. Gifted and actually has that same calmness that Fury has and won't be overrawed.
But still he would have to be levels and levels above Fury to win that fight which he isn't. Fury if he did struggle to get off still has quick feet and impossible physical advantages and the mentality that he would just club him into submission even on his worst night.
I don't know about the mentality thing. I'm not saying Usyk is mentally stronger than Fury, I'm saying he's not weaker than him in that department.
Fury is brilliant, but I've never seen him fight a fighter who can adopt to their opponent's game plan on a fly. I want to see how he adapts to adversity. I want to see if he can at all.
I don't know who wins this fight, but I know it HAS TO happen.
First we thought it was Joshua/Wilder, then it was Joshua/Fury....but it always has been Usyk/Fury. The fight beetwen the two absolutely best fighters in that weight class. It has to happen.
Wallin shouldn't have landed a punch he messed Fury up, I don't watch the HWs they have been piss poor for years, they are all pretty ordinary in my opinion.
Lol it’s a fight anything can happen. We can all look at things different way, i saw fury winning 10 rounds to 2 despite the heavy gushing eye. He messed up fury but didn’t win rounds.. i thought that’s how boxung is scored?
you don’t watch HWs yet here you are trying to argue about it.
Lol fury won 10 rounds to 2 against wallin. Or 9-3 if you’re being kind even with a bleeding eye.
chisora is a fossil and got beat up pretty easy by fury 10 years ago.
Wallin shouldn't have landed a punch he messed Fury up, I don't watch the HWs they have been piss poor for years, they are all pretty ordinary in my opinion.
FURY is a great boxer there is no denying the obvious but Dillion WHYTE is Dereck Chisora 2.0. He was knocked out by an old Povetkin and was lucky to beat Parker. What's the big surprise with this result? Dillion was so out of his depth that i was rooting for him to win as the rounds went on as it was too easy for Fury
Thats ok Fury barely beat Wallin, Usrk is a quality boxer it would be interesting.
Lol fury won 10 rounds to 2 against wallin. Or 9-3 if you’re being kind even with a bleeding eye.
chisora is a fossil and got beat up pretty easy by fury 10 years ago.
Usyk to skilled to fast to good footwork to good brain not intimidated won't be defeated by mind games
he didn’t look too skilled against a fossil chisora two fights ago
I think both of them have attributes to cause Fury problems. Would be great fights. As the saying goes: Don't count your chickens before they are hatched, imo.
Joshua has no chance. We know this. As for Usyk, he’s way too small and doesn’t have enough power to win. He couldn’t outbox Fury from the outside, due to the reach. On the inside Usyk would get mugged. Fury would be at least -500 in that fight. I do think Usyk beats Joshua in the rematch.
No lies there. Joshua already lost to two lesser fighters than Fury. And Usyk barely beat fossil chisora whom Fury beat up easily years ago.
Of course he'd be favourite.
I used to think Joshua had the edge in styles but I think Fury has evolved a bit too much for him now.
Usyk would be the bigger threat for me. The opening post makes it sound like boxing is just two styles... boxing on the outside or wrestling on the inside. It's not. Usyk can get in and out of range, avoid jabs on the way, and get his shots off in between. That's what he did to Joshua.
I think it would be a compelling fight. Two high IQ guys in a battle of wits and skill with an obvious clash of sizes and styles.
Fury has more ways to win though.
Usyk barely beat chisora. Definitely a great fighter but has proven way less as a heavyweight
canelo's proven it isnt about size....whyte is just an effin disappointement. no matter how great his counter hook and bodyshots are supposed to be, you have to be completely open for him to land those. he doesnt have the fast twitch muscle fibers to let his hands go.
my thing with aj vs fury is, would aj let his hands go? would he be willing to roll the dice if all else was failing..and at what point would he do it? eg if by round 4 you've lost every round, surely you let your hands go and go for broke and hell to the consequences, right?
whyte 'i want WAR'
gets close and does nothing, never lets his hands go, why not? fury was just too big and too strong for him.