Dude took BOMBS from middleweight to heavyweight and never got KO'ed. He actually fought Holyfield, Sam Peters and got bombed on. Never got stopped.
dude was a mutant
Do YOU not understand my statement
You mentioned Wepner, as most people do, when they want to discredit Ali.
Ali's chin stands up against any resume you can think of
Well apparantly you didn't so let me break it down to you..
I said "outside of wepner" because Wepner didn't knock ali down from a head shot. I was basically saying, "that knock down shouldn't be counted against Ali". If you don't understand what I just explained, it may be time to give your high school diploma back..
I clearly stated, and I quote"
"outside of Wepner"
because wepner didn't knock him down with a shot to the face.. Did you not comprehend what that meant?
Do YOU not understand my statement
You mentioned Wepner, as most people do, when they want to discredit Ali.
Ali's chin stands up against any resume you can think of
As I stated before, Ali faced more KO guys than anyone I can think of.
And to have a successful W/L % against those killers is exceptional.
I would put Ali's chin up against any other guys list of opponents.
Sheesh....everyone regurgitates Wepner while a person mentions Ali :lol1:
At least he won !
ATG Mike Tyson got stopped by a 40-1 underdog.
Use whatever excuse needed.
I clearly stated, and I quote"
"outside of Wepner"
because wepner didn't knock him down with a shot to the face.. Did you not comprehend what that meant?
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Ali was dropped and hurt several times in his career. Outside of the Wepner fight, he was dropped 3 times and hurt a LOT. Great chin, but , I think Lewis and Tyson hit harder than Fraizer and they never bothered McCall's chin.
As I stated before, Ali faced more KO guys than anyone I can think of.
And to have a successful W/L % against those killers is exceptional.
I would put Ali's chin up against any other guys list of opponents.
Sheesh....everyone regurgitates Wepner while a person mentions Ali :lol1:
At least he won !
ATG Mike Tyson got stopped by a 40-1 underdog.
Use whatever excuse needed.
Ali had the greatest chin
Toney a very close 2nd
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Ali was dropped and hurt several times in his career. Outside of the Wepner fight, he was dropped 3 times and hurt a LOT. Great chin, but , I think Lewis and Tyson hit harder than Fraizer and they never bothered McCall's chin.
Ali had great chin but probably not the best, he's better than most at not getting hit. But Ali good at disguising being hurt. Ch uvalo hurt Ali in 2nd fight in 5th round and you'd not know, he becons Chuvalo on whilst rooted in corner.
I can't think of a guy who faced more fight enders than him.
Ali had the greatest chin
Toney a very close 2nd
Ali had great chin but probably not the best, he's better than most at not getting hit. But Ali good at disguising being hurt. Ch uvalo hurt Ali in 2nd fight in 5th round and you'd not know, he becons Chuvalo on whilst rooted in corner.
Dude took BOMBS from middleweight to heavyweight and never got KO'ed. He actually fought Holyfield, Sam Peters and got bombed on. Never got stopped.
dude was a mutant
- - Fast Fres wif one hand rolled him out the ring like a beer barrel. Damnedest thing I ever seen.
Roy and Rahman knocked him clear across the ring in slomo. 2nd damndest thing I ever seen.
My ol buddy Boozo would straighten up this crowd, but he in purgatory now.
Yeah I agree Ali had a granite chin and proved it by taking flush bombs from some of the hardest punchers in history, Ali is always talked about as a great boxer but man oh man he was tough in the chin and the body. Thats one thing lots don't realise with fighters like Ali and even Floyd, is on top of the brilliant boxing their chins were granite and that combination made them nearly unbeatable.
Toney didn't really take shots flush, he was great at slipping and sliding his head taking a lot of power off the punch, Toney was a great MW and his boxing ability was much higher quality than the HWs of his day, his boxing ability is what carried him through the HWs, he became flat-footed and just slipped punches, his chin was good for sure but not like Ali who was was hit with some shots from Shavers that would drop a horse and Ali didn't blink, Foreman lifted Frazier of the canvas with an uppercut and Ali let big George punch himself out on his ribcage and then stopped him, the few times Ali was dropped look at how he gets up and shakes it off instantly.
- - When U flush U IQ?
2nd grade?
Ali had the greatest chin
Toney a very close 2nd
Yeah I agree Ali had a granite chin and proved it by taking flush bombs from some of the hardest punchers in history, Ali is always talked about as a great boxer but man oh man he was tough in the chin and the body. Thats one thing lots don't realise with fighters like Ali and even Floyd, is on top of the brilliant boxing their chins were granite and that combination made them nearly unbeatable.
Toney didn't really take shots flush, he was great at slipping and sliding his head taking a lot of power off the punch, Toney was a great MW and his boxing ability was much higher quality than the HWs of his day, his boxing ability is what carried him through the HWs, he became flat-footed and just slipped punches, his chin was good for sure but not like Ali who was was hit with some shots from Shavers that would drop a horse and Ali didn't blink, Foreman lifted Frazier of the canvas with an uppercut and Ali let big George punch himself out on his ribcage and then stopped him, the few times Ali was dropped look at how he gets up and shakes it off instantly.
Chin durability includes skin. If you can be stopped on cuts, then you're just not as durable as Toney who never gets cut.
What?!? :lol1: :lol1: :rofl: Sorry, but you made me laugh wih this comment. Thank you.
Hes definitely right up there yeah. Unfortunately all those shots got to him over the longer term.
One of my favourite boxers ever. Skilled and fearless.
Toney had good head and waist movement and was great at rolling punches. Fighters that actually took clean chin, tempo, and just straight face and head shots for years are fighters like Margarito, Andrade, Pavlik and more recently Golovkin. Those are the best chins I've seen.
Dude took BOMBS from middleweight to heavyweight and never got KO'ed. He actually fought Holyfield, Sam Peters and got bombed on. Never got stopped.
dude was a mutant
But he had the weakest ankle in boxing lol.
Good fighter was a very talented MW.