Dream on bud.
Floyd already proved to the world he didn't want the fight.
Articles were written. Videos were made. They take what a few card carrying Floyd boys say with a grain of salt.
Don't make too much sense for these guys dj.
If he was his biggest threat, why did manny say he had nothing left to prove with JMM prior to Nevada allowing Floyd to extend his jail date?
The truth is because he couldn’t decisively defeat JMM he was scared to death to fight someone who was bigger, stronger, faster and a better boxer in Floyd. Why? Because Bob, his matchmakers and Manny himself knew he’d lose to Floyd.
Dream on bud.
Floyd already proved to the world he didn't want the fight.
Articles were written. Videos were made. They take what a few card carrying Floyd boys say with a grain of salt.
Eubanks against GGG. venue booked. Date set. Eubanks just could not sign the contract. that panic hit.
i can't think of another instance this happened.
i can think of other fighters dropping their belts to avoid mandatory tho. it happens quite often.
Lol that is a good one, he couldn't even give a crap unbelievable reason he just went on about his pen.
And now that cvnt wants to fight the Welterweight that was brave enough to take his place and fight a world champion Middleweight. He is a disgrace to the family name.
Floyd just didn't want the fight and put up every roadblock to keep it from not happening.
This is worthless reading after you claim Marquez was a cherrypick. He was Mannys biggest threat from day one but we understand Floyd Boy logic is far fetched.
Floyd only took fights when the risk was at its all time low and the reward was at an all time high. In between he was either retired, on vacation, his hands was hurting, had to get bailed out the can, etc
If he was his biggest threat, why did manny say he had nothing left to prove with JMM prior to Nevada allowing Floyd to extend his jail date?
The truth is because he couldn’t decisively defeat JMM he was scared to death to fight someone who was bigger, stronger, faster and a better boxer in Floyd. Why? Because Bob, his matchmakers and Manny himself knew he’d lose to Floyd.
Rocky Marciano ducking a rising Floyd Patterson.
Mike Tyson ducking an old George Foreman.
Floyd Mayweather ducking a prime Manny Pacquaio, Amir Khan (despite being winnable for Floyd), and GGG.
Amir Khan ducking Kell Brook in their primes (despite being winnable for Khan back then).
Anthony Joshua ducking Deontay Wilder and then Tyson Fury.
Biggest ducks in boxing history.
Floyd ducking Margarito
Floyd ducking Tszyu
Floyd ducking Paul Williams
Floyd ducking De la Hoya rematch
Floyd ducking Pacquiao for 6-8 years
Floyd ducking Sergio Martinez
Floyd ducking GGG
Floyd right now ducking a Canelo rematch
Lummox was the heaviest he had ever come in & Kirk Johnson was not a threat by that point so it showed when he stepped on the scale. He would not have fought Vitali on 10 days notice if he knew how tough Vitali really was. He figured since he quit against Byrd he totally disregarded Vitali as a threat. He figured he beat him into submission. Call it a duck if you want but TKO6 is the only result that actually happened. Vitali is no better ducking Haye because that is exactly what he did.
Lummox? Hahaha! If Kirk Johnson didn’t tear his peck they would have fought & Vitali was fighting Cedric Boswell on the undercard. If they both won Vitali was next anyway. Lennox was 38 & already talking retirement after his Tyson cash out. Lennox wasn’t in great shape & still managed to get the W. lennox was arrogant & I’m pretty sure he underestimated Vitali or he wouldn’t have been ok with Vitali replacing Johnson on 2 weeks notice. Vitali was always in shape year round while Lennox wasn’t by that point in his career. I’m pretty sure he realized he wasn’t going to beat Vitali again by coming in out of shape & the motivation for what kind of training camp would be required to get ready for the rematch was just not there anymore. The threat was real & he wasn’t willing to go thru with another camp. He went out on top & that win over Vitali looked better as the years went by. Vitali got into the hall of fame. Although I think Vitali’s resume was not hall worthy.
Lennox was in great shape having a full camp under his belt while Vitali got 10 days to to prepare for the biggest title in sport having only prepared for an undercard fight. Big difference.
Lennox got lucky and got the win. Had he just retired after that I'd have little issue but the way he dragged it turned it into a duck and therefore it belongs in this thread.
Yawn. Every time Manny turned the fight down, you or another member of the pole smoking, cum gurgling f@g wing of his fan base defended it.
And so what if he shortchanged himself? You pretend he would’ve won had he fought him before he got ktfo by jmm. Ok so following your cum swallowing logic- he would’ve made $12 mil more than he ever made and had a chance to win.
Yet you blame Floyd for Manny taking less to get ktfo by JMM. LMFAO.
The truth that you and the rest of the Pinoy pole smokers can’t admit is he cherry picked jmm thinking he’d make $40’mil or more with the bulk of the ppv revenue to try and show Floyd he was just as big a star as Floyd.
Manny got the bulk of the ppv against jmm, the fight didn’t sell enough for him to make anywhere near that much, and he got ktfo.
Next time tell your man crush not to be so greedy and take less. His greed and ego were the reason he ducked. His knowing he’d lose was why he got needle fear and then got stitches.
Floyd just didn't want the fight and put up every roadblock to keep it from not happening.
This is worthless reading after you claim Marquez was a cherrypick. He was Mannys biggest threat from day one but we understand Floyd Boy logic is far fetched.
Floyd only took fights when the risk was at its all time low and the reward was at an all time high. In between he was either retired, on vacation, his hands was hurting, had to get bailed out the can, etc
Floyd was ducking for what 8 years.
Floyd was smoke and mirrors first it was ost
Then it was the the split in hindsight had Manny took 40 mill no ppv he would have grossly shortchanged himself, but it wasn't about the money thats the stock Floyd boy excuse. Floyd wanted a low risk fight.
Yawn. Every time Manny turned the fight down, you or another member of the pole smoking, cum gurgling f@g wing of his fan base defended it.
And so what if he shortchanged himself? You pretend he would’ve won had he fought him before he got ktfo by jmm. Ok so following your cum swallowing logic- he would’ve made $12 mil more than he ever made and had a chance to win.
Yet you blame Floyd for Manny taking less to get ktfo by JMM. LMFAO.
The truth that you and the rest of the Pinoy pole smokers can’t admit is he cherry picked jmm thinking he’d make $40’mil or more with the bulk of the ppv revenue to try and show Floyd he was just as big a star as Floyd.
Manny got the bulk of the ppv against jmm, the fight didn’t sell enough for him to make anywhere near that much, and he got ktfo.
Next time tell your man crush not to be so greedy and take less. His greed and ego were the reason he ducked. His knowing he’d lose was why he got needle fear and then got stitches.
You’re doing your usual BS daggum. Floyd has fought odh and canelo. Did over 2 mil on both. Manny never did over that number other than Floyd. Floyd also had done 1.5 mil with Cotto. To say they were “doing the exact same ppv numbers” is a complete lie.
When Manny turned down $40 mil he had never made more try am $28 mil with the bigger cut of the ppv. You’d never justify this if an American turned down this much against a foreigner so your agenda is clear.
If Manny really wanted the fight he’d have taken the short money. He instead fought JMM a a 4th time for far less just so he could say he got the bulk of the ppv revenue. Ok he got what he wanted and got ktfo for it.
I notice you also leave out the part where he all the sudden got the stitches after Bob said he was “ready to go”.
Manny ducked Floyd for years and we saw why when they fought. He won at best 3 rounds. That was always going to be the outcome.
Floyd was ducking for what 8 years.
Floyd was smoke and mirrors first it was ost
Then it was the the split in hindsight had Manny took 40 mill no ppv he would have grossly shortchanged himself, but it wasn't about the money thats the stock Floyd boy excuse. Floyd wanted a low risk fight.
i love how you pretend to be the "unbiased" guy then continually lie and say loma gave up a belt when that is a lie, and not to mention he fought the #1 guy in the division instead of a complete unproven novice, then after the lopez fight tried to fight haney and haney ducked him to fight linares lol. tied yourself in a pretzel again because loma literally made every right move to fight the best opponent, the only thing he did was get upgraded not to have any mandatories, but htat doesnt even matter cause he tried to fight the guy who was his mandatory and haney ducked which leaves you up sh-its creek without a paddle when it comes to this argument
Lie. Lmfao. He literally gave Haney the belt. When called on it, he flat out lied to Fat Dan about the franchise garbage.
After he lost to Teo, he got some BS shoulder surgery ( where have we seen that before) that then he decided to fake call out Haney because he had no rematch clause with Teo.
So without a belt he knew he had to fight gatekeepers. So he plays the Bob media game and Haney decided to tell him Go F-ck himself as payback for loma ducking him.
Yet somehow you give credit to Loma for “ trying to fight “ and find fault with only Haney.
Typical agenda driven BS from a scummy anti American f@g.
huh? floyd got his bluff called. he said it was testing...then went from 50-50 to pac only gets a 40 million flat fee no ppv, for a fight that was worth 500 million. you cant be serious...they were both doing the exact same ppv numbers at the time as well and pac only gets 40 million no ppv and floyd gets close to 500 million? derp, even when they did fight it was a 55-45 split so doesnt that prove floyd was full of crap? i mean jeez
You’re doing your usual BS daggum. Floyd has fought odh and canelo. Did over 2 mil on both. Manny never did over that number other than Floyd. Floyd also had done 1.5 mil with Cotto. To say they were “doing the exact same ppv numbers” is a complete lie.
When Manny turned down $40 mil he had never made more try am $28 mil with the bigger cut of the ppv. You’d never justify this if an American turned down this much against a foreigner so your agenda is clear.
If Manny really wanted the fight he’d have taken the short money. He instead fought JMM a a 4th time for far less just so he could say he got the bulk of the ppv revenue. Ok he got what he wanted and got ktfo for it.
I notice you also leave out the part where he all the sudden got the stitches after Bob said he was “ready to go”.
Manny ducked Floyd for years and we saw why when they fought. He won at best 3 rounds. That was always going to be the outcome.
What do you consider the biggest, most obvious, and most shameless ducks in boxing history?
Bowe ducking Lewis has to be up there.
Bowe ducking Lewis and May ducking Pac are equal massive ducks, the worst in boxing history! Shameful on both men's careers.
Can't overlook May for several ducks to be honest, real boxing fans haven't forgotten the Khan/Maidana situation, Margarito, Williams, Cotto at 147.
Wilder openly ducking and turning down a career high pay day against AJ and Fury ducking AJ to such an extent that even his own father called him out on it.
Lummox should have just retired after the fight, and I wouldn't have called a duck, but the shameless way he behaved sfterwards before finally retiring was disgusting and gives a clear room for calling it a duck.
Lummox? Hahaha! If Kirk Johnson didn’t tear his peck they would have fought & Vitali was fighting Cedric Boswell on the undercard. If they both won Vitali was next anyway. Lennox was 38 & already talking retirement after his Tyson cash out. Lennox wasn’t in great shape & still managed to get the W. lennox was arrogant & I’m pretty sure he underestimated Vitali or he wouldn’t have been ok with Vitali replacing Johnson on 2 weeks notice. Vitali was always in shape year round while Lennox wasn’t by that point in his career. I’m pretty sure he realized he wasn’t going to beat Vitali again by coming in out of shape & the motivation for what kind of training camp would be required to get ready for the rematch was just not there anymore. The threat was real & he wasn’t willing to go thru with another camp. He went out on top & that win over Vitali looked better as the years went by. Vitali got into the hall of fame. Although I think Vitali’s resume was not hall worthy.
If people are going to say Lennox ducked Vitali after beating him & decided to retire than you better throw Vitali ducking Haye in that list because that is exactly what he did. Told Haye to beat Chisora & he would get his shot (Vitali really struggled with Chisora) & Haye demolished him in 5 rounds. Then Vitali fights a novice in Charr & retired…
Lummox should have just retired after the fight, and I wouldn't have called a duck, but the shameless way he behaved sfterwards before finally retiring was disgusting and gives a clear room for calling it a duck.
A self admitted duck by George Foreman. He said he ducked Lennox in his second career. He even said he would have ducked him in his prime. George thinks Lennox Lewis is the greatest HW of all-time… Always liked George’s unbiased honesty.
Bowe ducking Lewis
Lewis ducking Vitali
Ward ducking Bute
Ward ducking Kessler
RJJ ducking Michalsczewski
RJJ ducking Nunn
Floyd ducking Magarito
All infamous ducks from modern time.
If people are going to say Lennox ducked Vitali after beating him & decided to retire than you better throw Vitali ducking Haye in that list because that is exactly what he did. Told Haye to beat Chisora & he would get his shot (Vitali really struggled with Chisora) & Haye demolished him in 5 rounds. Then Vitali fights a novice in Charr & retired…