I like both fighters. I think each guy could give most guys around 160-168 trouble depending on the night and the matchup.
But Andrade's 7 fights at MW are Walter, Liam Williams, Sulecki, Fox, Quigley, Akavov, and Keeler lol. It's hard to list these guys with a straight face and then try and make a claim that the guy is really trying to take tough fights. I give credit for Sulecki (at the time he had the close fight with Jacobs, and Andrade dominated the fight), but that's honestly about it. Pretty fuc.king weak man.
Charlo's 7 at MW are much the same - Derevy, Montiel, Heiland, Hogan, Adams, Centeno, and Korobov. I mean it's comical again to list those guys and act like he wants all the smoke. I give credit for Derevy, and a little for Korobov (short notice), but that's about it.
Not to mention!!! That Charlo and Andrade have been in the same weight class for damn near a decade and haven't even managed to fight yet!!! lol
If you want to make the statement that guys aren't exactly lining up to fight them either, that is fair and you could certainly make a good argument for that.
But it is more obvious that neither guy is trying to do anything at all apart from take the easiest fight they can get away with, and wait for some super payday with Canelo (if Al allows it).
Hey man, when someone comes in talking sh,it, I feel it is right to respond in kind. There is a way to disagree with someone without being nasty but he didn't do that to start out with.
But overall I agree with you, good advice
Thank you, sir.
Bro, sicko and you, are both cool members. Let's de-escalate this for now.
Hey man, when someone comes in talking sh,it, I feel it is right to respond in kind. There is a way to disagree with someone without being nasty but he didn't do that to start out with.
But overall I agree with you, good advice
what you describe in this thread is what literally every top guy at or near Canelo’s weight class has been doing for the last few years.
It seems Charlo is the only one who gets really criticized for it.
Andrade is literally avoided by everyone with a name. his own network will not match him up in a unification fight. I don’t see how he can be blamed for that.
Not saying it’s right. I just don’t think of everyone is doing it, only 1 or 2 guys should be singled out.
Charles threw hands.
that’s it.
Huh?? What the fu.ck are you talking about?
I said something about race - that almost every poster on here can't separate their little bitty feelings from analyzing fights and fighters.
I didn't call you out on that you dumb bit.ch. I don't even know who you are.
You are showing yourself to be too stupid to have a convo with though, that is for sure.
Bro, sicko and you, are both cool members. Let's de-escalate this for now.
The thing is, I don't even know if they want Canelo still. That fight looks like a sure loss for them now.
I think they both know they probably lose.
Canelo would work the body, be the aggressor and win a UD and I think they know that.
So you’re probably right, they probably don’t want it.
Charlo I feel for sure isn’t tripping if he never gets it. Making really good money fighting dudes like Montiel.
Once upon a time I too believed they were being avoided.
Now I know what’s up…they want a Canelo payday or no tough fight at all.
Theyll take 700k per fight to beat up bums until Canelo picks them.
The thing is, I don't even know if they want Canelo still. That fight looks like a sure loss for them now.
Once upon a time I too believed they were being avoided.
Now I know what’s up…they want a Canelo payday or no tough fight at all.
Theyll take 700k per fight to beat up bums until Canelo picks them.
WTF are you talking about...who the hell said anything about Race?
Way to make a complete ASS out of yourself! Damn this forum has gone to complete SH^T
Huh?? What the fu.ck are you talking about?
I said something about race - that almost every poster on here can't separate their little bitty feelings from analyzing fights and fighters.
I didn't call you out on that you dumb bit.ch. I don't even know who you are.
You are showing yourself to be too stupid to have a convo with though, that is for sure.
Seems like a specific common comment I see on this forum - and as mentioned a few people have liked that comment as well, so that is at least a few votes for that viewpoint - and in general it is your typical 100% race based comment that doesn't hold up to scrutiny at all.
WTF are you talking about...who the hell said anything about Race?
Person- a human being regarded as an individual.
People- human beings in general or considered collectively.
Way to make a complete ASS out of yourself! Damn this forum has gone to complete SH^T
Lame,so lame. Even for you. Keep reaching, eventually your deflection will mean ggg will be remembered as an ATG fighter,rather than just a talent.
I can see it hurts you that ggg is a protected fraud who ducks all the smoke,so I won't pile on too hard.
remember when you used to say "Canelo can fight anyone unlike ggg" even though ggg is the one who has the bigger profile than Charlo or Andrade,& who at the same age as Charlo had been fighting a whos who of bums of the month club.
Charlo has just beat Deryev who ggg robbed. Charlo still has several yrs of feasting on bums if he wants to match ggg.:rofl:
You list Gggs last 7 fights even though half were cherries hes wasted yrs chasing(& he stays at mw despite CW at smw already last fight v a D lister)? Even though he could fight Mall/Andrade anytime he wants for large sums.
There is so much wrong with your post it is just a waste of time to try and correct all of that
ZERO Emotions, this thread just doesn't make sense then you reply with a quote 1 Person yet this thread say "Why Are There Still PEOPLE..."
just saying!
Seems like a specific common comment I see on this forum - and as mentioned a few people have liked that comment as well, so that is at least a few votes for that viewpoint - and in general it is your typical 100% race based comment that doesn't hold up to scrutiny at all.
I respond to dumbass comments on here all the time. It just so happens that a lot of them are about GGG. At nearly 40, he is nearly irrelevant in boxing at this time. Especially with his recent activity level, which is due in some part to covid issues.
However, saying that those 2 guys really were trying to fight someone like GGG, would be like me saying that GGG was knocking down their doors to fight him now as well. It is clearly not the case. And if someone made that comment, it should get called out.
For the record, GGG's last 7 are Canelo twice, Jacobs, Derevy, Kamil, Rolls, and Vanes. There is no comparison at all as far as the quality of who GGG has been fighting lately compared to those 2 guys.
And GGG dominates and KOs anyone that he fought that was even close to the level or Montiel or Fox or Adams etc.
As usual your dumbass misses the point of the post, but if you had any sense, you wouldn't post the dumbass sh.it you post all the time. So I'm not surprised.
Lame,so lame. Even for you. Keep reaching, eventually your deflection will mean ggg will be remembered as an ATG fighter,rather than just a talent.
I can see it hurts you that ggg is a protected fraud who ducks all the smoke,so I won't pile on too hard.
remember when you used to say "Canelo can fight anyone unlike ggg" even though ggg is the one who has the bigger profile than Charlo or Andrade,& who at the same age as Charlo had been fighting a whos who of bums of the month club.
Charlo has just beat Deryev who ggg robbed. Charlo still has several yrs of feasting on bums if he wants to match ggg.:rofl:
You list Gggs last 7 fights even though half were cherries hes wasted yrs chasing(& he stays at mw despite CW at smw already v a D lister)? Even though he could fight Mall/Andrade anytime he wants for large sums.
What an odd emotional response lol. Why do you sound like you're about to cry about it? And why would I make a thread for no reason?
Also - if I wanted to bash them, I wouldn't have said I like them as fighters and would at least give them a chance vs anyone around their weight class, dumbass.
Below is the quote I was referring to, which has been liked by a couple other posters. Is that enough for you sweetheart?
ZERO Emotions, this thread just doesn't make sense then you reply with a quote 1 Person yet this thread say "Why Are There Still PEOPLE..."
just saying!
Those two are on their way to their third weight class and still haven’t beaten an elite level fighter. At a minimum these two should have fought one another in a unification bout. It’s impossible to take them seriously when they continue to fight B level opponents and no-hopers and then expect a shot at Canelo or GGG. Supposedly Charlo was offered $12 million for a Canelo fight and turned it down. How does he think he is worth more than that when he has never headlined a PPV fight outside the of the one he co-featured with his brother, and that one flopped!
It is odd to see anyone saying they want tough fights, with that resume at MW so far, and the fact that they've been in the same weight class for damn near a decade and haven't even TRIED to fight each other yet.
And with Charlo apparently turning down that Canelo fight, I honestly have no idea if he even wants a big fight for a payday. Seems like it's more about protecting the 0 at all costs.
Those two are on their way to their third weight class and still haven’t beaten an elite level fighter. At a minimum these two should have fought one another in a unification bout. It’s impossible to take them seriously when they continue to fight B level opponents and no-hopers and then expect a shot at Canelo or GGG. Supposedly Charlo was offered $12 million for a Canelo fight and turned it down. How does he think he is worth more than that when he has never headlined a PPV fight outside the of the one he co-featured with his brother, and that one flopped!
As usual you want to defend ggg so you claim Andrade/Charlo are not worthy/not serious about fighting him,even though gg has been fighting worse bums for several yrs & even wastes yrs of his career waiting for those bums.
Everyone knows ggg is a huge cherrypicker who never fights guys bigger than him,& feasts off guys with natural disadvantages unless hes forced(only Jacobs exception)
I respond to dumbass comments on here all the time. It just so happens that a lot of them are about GGG. At nearly 40, he is nearly irrelevant in boxing at this time. Especially with his recent activity level, which is due in some part to covid issues.
However, saying that those 2 guys really were trying to fight someone like GGG, would be like me saying that GGG was knocking down their doors to fight him now as well. It is clearly not the case. And if someone made that comment, it should get called out.
For the record, GGG's last 7 are Canelo twice, Jacobs, Derevy, Kamil, Rolls, and Vanes. There is no comparison at all as far as the quality of who GGG has been fighting lately compared to those 2 guys.
And GGG dominates and KOs anyone that he fought that was even close to the level or Montiel or Fox or Adams etc.
As usual your dumbass misses the point of the post, but if you had any sense, you wouldn't post the dumbass sh.it you post all the time. So I'm not surprised.
post a F^cking Link to these Threads, where are they because I don't see them
Andrade and Charlo are not even liked on this forum so WTF are you even talking about exactly or you just wanted to make a thread to bash them I guess
What an odd emotional response lol. Why do you sound like you're about to cry about it? And why would I make a thread for no reason?
Also - if I wanted to bash them, I wouldn't have said I like them as fighters and would at least give them a chance vs anyone around their weight class, dumbass.
Below is the quote I was referring to, which has been liked by a couple other posters. Is that enough for you sweetheart?
They have called him out for years.Golovkin never wanted either one at any point in his career.Nice try.