Shakur Is A Better Boxer, But Is Valdez A Better Fighter?

Will Shakur fight Valdez like he fought Herring?

https://twitter.com/MonteroOnBoxing/status/973390269935529985?s=20&t=qO-aPb3GFAHGrc4cQVZ3aA https://twitter.com/MonteroOnBoxing/...FAHGrc4cQVZ3aA I just saw this, and it reminded me of how much willpower Valdez has, and what a true warrior he is to fight through what he did. Is he being made the underdog too early in his fight with Stevenson? I can see Shakur outboxing Valdez but, at the same time, I can see Valdez overwhelming Shakur and hurting him at some point. Also, I have word that the fight was signed today. (I can't post Twitter anymore. Can anyone else?) If an guy can box at an elite level he can make a boring fight and easily out point anyone. Only exception is a guy like Mike Tyson in his prime.

Shakur is a better boxer but I really haven't seen a fight where I thought the opponent was going to be a threat going into the fight. Herring looked like he had his tail between his legs the whole buildup and most certainly in the fight. Dude was sleepwalking Conceiao is a good fighter, gold medalist; he gets wild but hes in his prime. Oscar struggled but thats good opp He was likely going to fight Navarette next......yet for some reason there is the idea that Valdez is the one being protected? Berchelt, Conceicao, SS or Navarette. real witness protection program there Yup. This is how I see it too. Herring did not look right at all. He looked defeated before he even stepped into the ring and fought like a guy who believed he couldn't win. That's why I think as much as it was a good win for Shakur, it wasn't that good of a win, not the way people are making it sound. Also, Valdez looked off with his fight against Conceciao. Maybe it was the stress of the media and getting caught for PEDs. I don't know. But people are look at this fight as if Valdez has no chance at all, that he's hiding. Yet, we have Reynoso preferring this fight over Navarette. And like you said, Shakur is more dangerous than these other guys? I don't know if anyone remembers, but everyone thought Berchelt was going to blast Valdez out of the ring. Styles make fights, sure. But Valdez has an amateur background like Shakur, and Conceciao won the gold medal in the Olympics. Shakur won the silver. Not that amateur fighting tells how one will be in the pros, but Conceciao lost that fight, IMO. He started off good but just dropped the ball halfway through. People might be shocked by this fight coming up. I'm not saying Shakur is going to lose, but I definitely think there's a good chance he loses. You never know. Valdez hits a hell of a lot harder than Shakur, and you just need to get hurt once to have the whole flow of the fight change. Does Shakur have that grit that Valdez has? When I see Valdez vomiting blood all the way to a win, I wonder if Shakur has that same dog in him.

Shakur is a better boxer but I really haven't seen a fight where I thought the opponent was going to be a threat going into the fight. Herring looked like he had his tail between his legs the whole buildup and most certainly in the fight. Dude was sleepwalking Conceiao is a good fighter, gold medalist; he gets wild but hes in his prime. Oscar struggled but thats good opp He was likely going to fight Navarette next......yet for some reason there is the idea that Valdez is the one being protected? Berchelt, Conceicao, SS or Navarette. real witness protection program there

Are we really living in some freak universe where Valdez actually wants this fight? I don't like Shakur at ALL, but lmao Im surprised Arum didnt make Navarette/Valdez 1st as its a fan friendly money fight. Mexicanos wouldve came oyt in drives if it was held in CAli, NV, AZ or Texas.

Conceiçaio put the blueprint out imo. Stevenson is gonna do a number and possibly stop or have Valdez' corner throw in the towel. I dont see any other outcome, tea or no tea.

Are we really living in some freak universe where Valdez actually wants this fight? I don't like Shakur at ALL, but lmao

Youre right. Valdez is a fighter, lots of will power, he’s going in to fight. Shakur is going to play tag, hide behind the jab, run around, angles. Based on this he’ll probably win. Hate seeing shiiit styles like this. For example; Joshua vs Ruiz rematch. Joshua ran around, played tag and jabbed all night. Weak ass shiiit. This will be the Shakur game plan

That's why they fight the fights. On paper Shakur wins easily

wrong thread............

The logic behind threads like this make my head spin. So because Valdez has been in some nasty wars against opposition he should have dominated he is supposed to be praised as a better “fighter”? Shakur is one of those fighters that may never be in a “war”, or dog fight, he is a generational talent IMO. Valdez has looked shakey in many fights against lesser guys for yeeeeeaaaars, and people like to rewrite history as if the majority didn’t think he’a be flatlined by Berchelt. I can’t even remember a single round in which Shakur hasn’t been dominant, whether he was in cruise control or whatever. How anyone thinks Shakur doesn’t absolutely take him to school is beyond me… Yet hey…I’m ready to hear the excuses.

Good Luck to Oscar Valdez... but Shakur gives him a One Sided Boring Boxing Lesson in which he will struggle to land big on Shakur all night and ultimately lose by WIDE UD but of course he has a puncher's chance but Shakur aint no Berchelt Gonna be hard for pedez to land on runnerson. He better hope it's a puncher size ring instead of the original size. Valdez is a warrior no doubt but so are most boxers. Outside of that performance against what very well could've been a weight drained Berchelt,he's really struggled against inferior competition,none more so than his last against Robson. Stevenson is a far more skilled boxer but is as featherfisted as they come. If that chick in the parking garage was a able to eat multiple clean shots from him then I'm sure Oscar can eat a few while attempting to get in range to land his left hook. Unlikely but you never know I definitely favor Shakur here, but I'm not all that impressed with is win over Herring for a couple reasons. One reason is that Herring looked like shit. I probably shouted at the screen a hundred times for him to stop walking into Shakur's left. It was mind boggling. His entire strategy was all wrong. He wouldn't even listen to his corner until halfway through the fight. Which leads me to my second point, and that is that Herring lost the mental battle. He was beat before he even entered the ring. You could see it in his body language and eyes. And it goes to the fact that both guys trained at the same gym, and you know how it is when guys roam in a pack; it's just like a pack of wolves; there's a hierarchy. And Herring new that Shakur is a special talent, could see him train and knew he was better than him. What that means is that it's very likely Herring was low man on the totem pole. He carried that attitude into the ring, and Shakur carried his attitude of supremacy into the ring. That is what really made the fight go the way it did. But Valdez is a different animal. Also, Reynoso has actually stated he likes this fight. That he wants this fight. That dynamic is gone, and now we have what I consider a "real fight" between two elite boxers. Both amateur pedigrees. One with the speed and technique and the other with the grit and power. I'm viewing this as a 50/50 fight right now, in all honesty. I think this is a hard fight for Shakur.

Valdez is a warrior no doubt but so are most boxers. Outside of that performance against what very well could've been a weight drained Berchelt,he's really struggled against inferior competition,none more so than his last against Robson. Stevenson is a far more skilled boxer but is as featherfisted as they come. If that chick in the parking garage was a able to eat multiple clean shots from him then I'm sure Oscar can eat a few while attempting to get in range to land his left hook. Unlikely but you never know

Good Luck to Oscar Valdez... but Shakur gives him a One Sided Boring Boxing Lesson in which he will struggle to land big on Shakur all night and ultimately lose by WIDE UD but of course he has a puncher's chance but Shakur aint no Berchelt