If GGG Had

I agree with that but the problem is they were close fights and you can't leave it to the judges. He waited to long to face canelo and avoided real competition for years, lose to canelo, and now he's too old and washed up to get in the ring with anyone good? He should have known both fights were close mid way and pressed for the KO but instead fought behind a jab. SMH, I don't understand the hate for this thread. GGG was a great amateur fighter, one of the best. I just want to know what he could have done if he had actually focused on his legacy instead of waiting for canelo. Say he'd gone up to 168 in 2013, beat Froch, Ward, maybe even Kovalev and Stevenson, he could have been one of the greats. If you're a GGG fan this is what you should want, not wins over Martln Murray FFS. I agree with he jab thing. I still think Golovkin could have Ko'd Ginger and when he hit him, Ginger felt it.

Alvarez was the guy who aged GGG out. I think Canelo will deservedly go down as the better fighter but he avoided GGG for years. True but still. You can either let Canelo fuck around with you, continue to age, fight not a single legacy fight for years. OR. You can say "you know what Mr. Alvarez? Fuck you. While you vacate your MW belt in order to duck me and continue to fight bums at 154, duck Charlo, Andrade, and the Lara rematch, here is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna fight Lara, the guy who shoulda beat you, embarrass him, and in turn embarrass you to prove the world how much better I am than you. And then I will move up and fight better fighters at 168 on my way to the HOF while you keep fighting guys like Amir Khan and Liam Smith. I am taking the second option all day. Anyone watch WWE remember the DX suck it chop? Now if GGG fought Lara in 2015 and knocked him out he could have done the suck it chop to Canelo.

He beat 10 guys ranked inside top 10 and 4 guys ranked inside the top 4. When you can’t secure the big fights, you should continue to fight the top contenders. You know, what Charlo and Andrade haven’t done… C'mon the 160lb division was complete garbage and everyone knows it, remember what happened when Martin Murray tried to fight at 168 or when Lemieux fought someone that didn't suck??

You can hate Canelo Alvarez all you want, I think he's a drug cheat fraud whose resume is smoke and mirrors but it's still a fact that what Canelo is doing is 1000 times greater than what GGG did, Plant, BJS, Smith much much MUCH better fights than Lemeuix, Murray, Geale. GGG could have had a resume like that if he'd moved up and faced Froch, Bute, Abraham, Kessler, Ward.

Well, he actually won both fights against the roided one. I agree with that but the problem is they were close fights and you can't leave it to the judges. He waited to long to face canelo and avoided real competition for years, lose to canelo, and now he's too old and washed up to get in the ring with anyone good? He should have known both fights were close mid way and pressed for the KO but instead fought behind a jab. SMH, I don't understand the hate for this thread. GGG was a great amateur fighter, one of the best. I just want to know what he could have done if he had actually focused on his legacy instead of waiting for canelo. Say he'd gone up to 168 in 2013, beat Froch, Ward, maybe even Kovalev and Stevenson, he could have been one of the greats. If you're a GGG fan this is what you should want, not wins over Martln Murray FFS.

In GGG’s eyes yes, it was a cherry pick. GGG thought he was going to demolish Alvarez. Take the belts out of the equation. GGG saw Canelo as the smaller man, hence he kept calling him out and calling him out. What happened after? One draw and one loss later, your mystique gone too. GGG thought he was a bully, but ended up taking an L instead lol The funny part is if he had fought Ward in 2013 in his prime at 168 and at least been competitive he would have got a lot more respect.

Use your head pendejo…Alvarez was all that, yes, but he was the smaller Jr Middleweight. Of course GGG chased him for the fight, Canelo was small as fuk. When did GGG ever call out Ward or any other much bigger super middleweight in the other direction? That’s right, never. Nah, never happened. He wanted 154lb, 5’7” Alvarez because he thought he could smash the smaller man. That’s a cherry pick gone wrong broski. That is correct. He sparred him up in big bear when he was 16 and thought it would be an easy win plus a massive payday.

in 2015 gggs promoter said we want froch no catchweight. Jul 2, 2015 Golovkin's promoter: We never asked Froch for a catch-weight ...no one at the time refuted that, neither froch no his promoter... 5 years later in 2020 froch comes out saying ggg wanted to fight at 166. not a very credible statement, seems like saving face. and we know from court documents ward wanted no part of the opponents hbo wanted which were according to sources: ggg, bute, froch but ward wanted guys like sartison which hbo did not and thats why the judge ruled in his promoters favor to extend his contract, because his promoter was getting him fights just not the easy ones ward wanted. i dont know how people can still go around pretending ward wanted ggg or some BS when thats literally in court and he lost because of it. I could have seen Pirog beating GGG though. Shame that fight never happened because of the Pirog back injury.

Beats down and stops all the 160 guys. Beats all the 168 guys except for Ward. Loses to the prime 175 guys. IMO of course

I like GGG a lot but he's not beating the top top guys above 160. Loses to Froch on activity. Gets totally shut out by Ward. etc. etc. He'd probably do a trilogy with Abraham. That's where I see GGG for guys who can take a punch and also dish it. GGG mostly got on by guys with questionable durability or inability to limit damage.

You’re missing my point. I’m not talking about who the bigger star is, that’s obvious. Im talking about who had more size, more power, more time at 160lbs. GGG had these advantages, so he went chasing the smaller man, like the biiitch that he’s always been. Stop with the BS… :lol1: Canelo had just fought at 164 before facing GGG. He was also a former Middleweight Champion. He was also the younger man and far closer to his prime than GGG was. Canelo isn’t a smaller man than GGG either, if anything he’s the bigger dude, I highly doubt GGG would look as comfortable bulking up to 175 as Canelo did.

But let's be real, was Alvarez a harder fight than the fights the true fans wanted, Ward, Froch, Kovalev, Stevenson? **** no, Alvarez was the low risk big money fight compared to those. He beat up on canelo in sparring when he was 18 and thought it would be easy. Well, he actually won both fights against the roided one.

Nonsense… :lol1: Canelo is the bigger guy. Canelo dictated when and where that fight happened, not GGG. You’re missing my point. I’m not talking about who the bigger star is, that’s obvious. Im talking about who had more size, more power, more time at 160lbs. GGG had these advantages, so he went chasing the smaller man, like the biiitch that he’s always been.

It’s not hard to understand bro, GGG was breathing down A side Canelo’s neck because Canelo is small. GGG thought he was going to crush him, as if he was just another cab driver he was used to smashing. The B side was begging and pressuring to make the fight, because the B side thought the win was in the bag (due to Canelo’s small size and being a Jr Middleweight). Nonsense… :lol1: Canelo is the bigger guy. Canelo dictated when and where that fight happened, not GGG.

Went wrong? he made like 100+ millions so far. Money wise, yea he’s good. Career wise? Shiiit went down the toilet lol. He’s lined up to fight a Japanese bum then he has his fingers crossed for you guessed it….another Canelo fight, because he has nothing else going on in his sorry career now.

This dude's an idiot.

So you’re saying the past prime 36 year old B side was cherrypicking the peak 28 year old A side. You do realise the A side essentially decides when the fight happens- not the other way round. You’re either trolling or a fanboy. It’s not hard to understand bro, GGG was breathing down A side Canelo’s neck because Canelo is small. GGG thought he was going to crush him, as if he was just another cab driver he was used to smashing. The B side was begging and pressuring to make the fight, because the B side thought the win was in the bag (due to Canelo’s small size and being a Jr Middleweight).

That’s always been my issue with him too. I used to follow him and admire him. He lost me and I started disliking him before he fought Canelo when he fought Brook. He did a little ‘C’mon let’s go’ with his hands, when he had Brook on the ropes, thought he was so bad against little Brook putting on a show. I was fuking disgusted. :lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1:

Let's face it, he waited his whole career to protect his 0 and cherry pick Canelo Alvarez, which went wrong. What about if he had focused on his legacy instead of fighting bums. How would have have done against the top champs at 160, 168, and 175. Peter Qullin? Andy Lee, BJS? Andre Ward and Direll, Froch, Bute, Jack, Abraham, Steveson, Kovalev? Went wrong? he made like 100+ millions so far.

I think he would of done well with those you mentioned but fighting the best ISNT great for corporate boxing money intake. The more times he steps into the ring. The more he makes. If he steps in their with big names. Theirs a risk of loosing his financial appeal. People don’t want to pay to watch a LOOSER in boxing.