The date for Tyson Fury vs Dillian Whyte purse bids has now been pushed back by a week, Fury’s UK co-promoter Frank Warren revealed on talkSPORT.
As a result, the initial purse bids date of January 11 has now been delayed to the following week.
Warren explained on talkSPORT Fight Night: “First of all the purse bids have been pushed back by a week now.
“The purse bids will be seven days after. Next Monday or Tuesday .
“Of course they’re entitled to appeal .
“I don’t think they’ll get anywhere because when you get these situations, the purse bids are based upon boxers’ previous earnings…
Link below:
Tyson Fury vs Dillian Whyte purse bids delayed as Eddie Hearn and Frank Warren explain latest with WBC heavyweight title situation (talksport.com)
Prove it.......
https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/12776326/wladimir-klitschko-make-mandatory-defense-vs-tyson-fury
"The purse split in the event of a bid would be 80-20 in Klitschko's favor."
https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-well-either-make-deal-joshua-usyk-aj-vacate-go-purse-bid--158054
"According to the WBO’s rules, an 80-20 purse split would favor Joshua if his fight with Usyk went to a purse bid."
https://www.boxingscene.com/klitschkos-80-20-purse-split-request-approved-by-ibf--78303
"Wladimir thanks the IBF President Darryl Peoples and the board of directors for supporting him and changing the split to 80-20, and showing their respect."
That's not how it works. You don't "submit a UK purse." You're supposed to pay your sanctioning fee based on your entire purse. Of course most fighters fudge the numbers, but those are the numbers you'll be judged on when the split is determined.
Rule 2.6 allows the WBC to increase the champion's share to anything they see fit.
That's because Eddie is a liar. How have you not figured that out yet?
Still, whatever nunbers he submitted, they werent the nunbers frank said frank was referring to whyte's "last fight" and yet had made it clear earlier that this was the ibf pulev purse bid from 2018.
Eddie is a smart liar though, he wouldnt just make something up on the fly like that...he isnt deontay wilder or fury or frank warren who lie through their teeth. A smart liar will tell the odd white lie when necessary..but here we have a legal case and arbitration..eddie wouldnt lie for this one. My argument is that there's a lot more behind this situation than we know.
there is no rule 2.6. so much for lying.
The key thing is that fury has had espn paying him $20m a fight, but whyte gets paid by dazn too. Since whyte was fighting in the uk, he submitted his uk purse.
That's not how it works. You don't "submit a UK purse." You're supposed to pay your sanctioning fee based on your entire purse. Of course most fighters fudge the numbers, but those are the numbers you'll be judged on when the split is determined.
Furthermore wlad was not the wbc champion. As i said the wbc rules say its 70-30 and may change to 50-50 if the challenger is a big commercial name. It says nothing about a split reducing to 80-20.
Rule 2.6 allows the WBC to increase the champion's share to anything they see fit.
this one is bizarre thougg. Eddie said it is 55-45 for an interim..but it doesnt say that anywhere in their rules.
That's because Eddie is a liar. How have you not figured that out yet?
Because going back several decades, you have always been able to petition to have the split changed if you can prove your recent purses are astronomically larger than the opponent's recent purses.
For example, when Fury was the mandatory, Klitschko successfully petitioned to have the split modified to 80/20.
Joshua vs Usyk was also ordered at 80/20.
I've never seen you complain about 80/20 in the past.
The key difference is whyte has headlined Vs aj (did bigger numbers than wlad-fury) and whyte sold that fight
Vs joseph parker
Vs chisora x2
Vs oscar rivas
Vs povetkin x2
All on ppv in the uk.
THe numbers werent massive for the rivas and povetkin fights but that's partly down to covid and people spending less on boxing. Rivas wasnt a name so that one did less.
whyte vs povetkin 2 only did 197k ppv buys
Fury did 300k vs wilder 3.
In fact whyte vs chisora sold better than fury vs wilder 1.
Their ppv figures are not worlds behind. Yes fury was fighting in the US so they were 5am fights...but it was against wilder ffs. When fury fought otto wallin maybe 2 ppl watched those fights. Fury couldnt even fight agit kabayel because they knew it wouldnt generate the numbers.
The key thing is that fury has had espn paying him $20m a fight, but whyte gets paid by dazn too. Since whyte was fighting in the uk, he submitted his uk purse.
Furthermore wlad was not the wbc champion. As i said the wbc rules say its 70-30 and may change to 50-50 if the challenger is a big commercial name. It says nothing about a split reducing to 80-20.
this one is bizarre thougg. Eddie said it is 55-45 for an interim..but it doesnt say that anywhere in their rules. So what rules is eddie reading? Maybe wbc have another rulebook with more details? Maybe they promised whyte 45% when he was suing after the rivas fight?
Maybe they will only stick to that agreement if whyte wins a legal case.
Its funny that aj and whyte helped matchroom grow. Matchroom got the dazn contract and dazn's spending led to espn signing fury.
the hype around HW boxing was largely built by eddie and his guys. Wilder had no traction until eddie got talking and whyte was a big part of that too.
You brought percentage numbers that were incorrect . A.J wanted to make the fight thus giving him a guaranteed rematch because it was a short notice fight . Fury is not showing anything where he wants this fight and has declined this fight more then once when it was ordered in 2019 ,no comment on that I bet ? :lol1:
If you weren’t a fanboy you might actually make sense on here .
i brought % numbers from the fight i was talking about if you actually read properly i said "when they fought" did they fight a second time i didn't know about. Read properly instead of making your own narrative and rolling with it. Whyte is the one declining offers and asking for 45% how is Fury ducking? if you really believe Whyte deserves 45% than you are more delusional than he is straight up. Look at them purse numbers up above and compare them to Furys last few fights it says it all. I'm no fan boy check my history i was just slagging Fury off 2 days ago for this circus act with francis which is a bs fight i just tell it how it is.
I was talking about offer the when A.J was champion before the Ruiz fight .
A.J wasn’t the champion yet either so I’m not sure what you are trying to say other then what you are showing is more low balling from Fury where Whyte got 1 million in a non title fight in 2015 ? So he’s only worth 5 million guaranteed now even though he generates venues in the U.K ?
You really think he's going to give him more of a % after beating him already and holding all the belts? stop talking shit mate talking about agendas you do nothing but hate on Fury then make up stuff which doesn't even make sense. 50/50 my arse crack we both know that's bs mate stop waffling as i say it's only because Tyson Fury you're so vocal about it if it was Joshua you would be like well "he's the cash cow" "he holds the belts" blahblah gtfoh.
Whyte didn’t get 25% he got a guarantee of 5 million and a guaranteed rematch win or lose which then was a split of 50/50 if he won which is at least 15 /20 million and or 60/40 if he lost . Not bad for someone who hadn’t even made 4 million at that time and he had no title nor any mandate to fight A.J .
It’s not my fault you are usually not that keen to what’s happening but you’re not alone the major of the forum who have actual agendas are no different from you .
No he didn''t not sure where you go that from AJ got 3m Whyte got 1m that's 25% he got 40% of the ppv but his purse gaurantee was only 1m.
Career Earnings Dillian Whyte in Boxing
Opponents
Purse Money
PPV Share
Fight Year
Brian Minto
$400,000
N/A
2015
Anthony Joshua
$1 million
40%
2015
Dereck Chisora
£1 million
50%
2016
Ian Lewison
£450,000
N/A
2016
David Allen
£400,000
N/A
2016
Malcolm Tann
£500,000
N/A
2017
Robert Helenius
£500,000
N/A
2017
Lucas Browne
£800,000
60%
2018
Joseph Parker
£1 million
50%
2018
Dereck Chisora
£1 million
50%
2018
Óscar Rivas
£1 million
60%
2019
Mariusz Wach
£1.5 million
60%
2019
Alexander Povetkin
£4 million
50%
2020
Upcoming Fight
N/A
N/A
2021
Upcoming Fight
N/A
N/A
2022
“The WBA will order a 30-day negotiating period between the camps before ordering a purse bid in the event that they don't make a deal. The purse split in the event of a bid would be 80-20 in Klitschko's favor.“
https://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_/id/12776326/wladimir-klitschko-make-mandatory-defense-vs-tyson-fury
This is the WBA is it not?
Prove it.......
“The WBA will order a 30-day negotiating period between the camps before ordering a purse bid in the event that they don't make a deal. The purse split in the event of a bid would be 80-20 in Klitschko's favor.“
https://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_/id/12776326/wladimir-klitschko-make-mandatory-defense-vs-tyson-fury
Whatever the outcome, Whyte will have to take this fight.
Whyte does not beat the Tyson Fury who trained under Peter Fury. But this Kronk Fury, does not use movement like he used to anymore 'And can be extremely clumsy with his aggression'.
Whyte has to take the fight.
Because going back several decades, you have always been able to petition to have the split changed if you can prove your recent purses are astronomically larger than the opponent's recent purses.
For example, when Fury was the mandatory, Klitschko successfully petitioned to have the split modified to 80/20.
Joshua vs Usyk was also ordered at 80/20.
I've never seen you complain about 80/20 in the past.
Prove it.......
wbc rules and regulations state a mandatory challenger gets 30%.
why did they change that for whyte?
Because going back several decades, you have always been able to petition to have the split changed if you can prove your recent purses are astronomically larger than the opponent's recent purses.
For example, when Fury was the mandatory, Klitschko successfully petitioned to have the split modified to 80/20.
Joshua vs Usyk was also ordered at 80/20.
I've never seen you complain about 80/20 in the past.
The date for Tyson Fury vs Dillian Whyte purse bids has now been pushed back by a week, Fury’s UK co-promoter Frank Warren revealed on talkSPORT.
As a result, the initial purse bids date of January 11 has now been delayed to the following week.
Warren explained on talkSPORT Fight Night: “First of all the purse bids have been pushed back by a week now.
“The purse bids will be seven days after. Next Monday or Tuesday .
“Of course they’re entitled to appeal .
“I don’t think they’ll get anywhere because when you get these situations, the purse bids are based upon boxers’ previous earnings…
Link below:
Tyson Fury vs Dillian Whyte purse bids delayed as Eddie Hearn and Frank Warren explain latest with WBC heavyweight title situation (talksport.com)
Purse bids should never be about previous earnings. These weak orgs change their rules far too often
All the sanctioning bodies should make the rules more accessible and get rid of the hidden jargon in it ,the rules were created for loopholes to take place in a corrupt system ,needs to be modified and updated and or the very least show the fans what is going on with at least a public announcement of why something is but they keep everything hidden in little contexts when you try and really read between the lines ,and the WBC is the worst .
One good thing the WBC is pushing in 2023 is the possibility of having the mandated fighters from other bodies fight it out if championship fight is unavailable to cut time out of waiting .
You only saying this because it’s Tyson Fury, Whyte only got 25% against AJ and thats before AJ was as popular as he is now. Guaranteed if this was AJ vs Whyte again you would have no issue with AJ taking 80% the bodies are consistent with purses it’s fans like you who are not consistent and make narratives depending on if you like the fighter or not.
wbc rules and regulations state a mandatory challenger gets 30%.
why did they change that for whyte?
Example
Haney vs Jojo Diaz, it was 55-45...
wbc are making it up as they go along.
Sometimes that’s an indication that the two camps are working towards their own deal but I doubt it here with how far apart they are.
Whyte is getting a split based on his current worth. He wants a split based on Fury’s which isn’t happening.
He’s not confident he’ll win so he’s looking for a retirement check to take an L.
Whyte just needs to accept he's not getting that 45% he's delusional af and seems to have forgotten he got knocked out 2 fights ago. This is why i don't like Whyte that much if this was any other fighter doing it to him he would be calling them every name under the sun in the media, he's a hypocrite and idiot that's why Fury won't budge because he rightfully doesn't like the guy and isn't going to do him any favours.