The Dillian Whyte Saga

I appreciate your inexperienced uneducated amateur opinion, but I disagree. To go to England for $12 million, with no rematch clause for a fight that was worth $100 million in the US would be ludicrous. Instead he fought Fury for $12 million in the US with a rematch clause. Then made another $50 million fighting him two more times. I too appreciate your stories on your million dollar bets ,your insight into your dealing with the Hearns ,your stint as a commissioner and the rest of the gibberish you spout. It has been a pleasure

- - Dunno where the Deyonce/Flubber Furry loverboys are getting their financial figures from, but financials the first fight held before the manmade Corona Crisis was was piteous: 325,000 pay-per-view buys on Showtime and $24.3 million in pay-per-view revenue. AJ fights in England been making 'em look like Cub Scout campouts. Well, at least they do better financials than the Girls, but just barely...:dance:

but someone with access to the sample tampered with it. that's my theory. Your theory is that Deontay Wilder had access to Dililan Whyte's UKAD urine sample and somehow put anabolic steroids into Whyte's urine without UKAD knowing?

So the big massive point you're making is 'eddie hearn lied'? i thought you were here to diss Whyte. I don't know if eddie ever literally claimed 'wbc silver belt makes whyte the MANDATORY' it was more Dillian Whyte reaches 1000th day as WBC No 1 challenger ok, so whyte held a couple of 'wbc titles' and was ranked number 1. Can you explain what black magic hoodoo al haymon did for wbc to make brezeale vs molina the 'final eliminator' fight? explain how that makes sense. “I’ve fought for all these WBC eliminators and I’ve got three WBC belts. If anyone deserves a final eliminator it’s me. I at least have to fight the Breazeale vs. Molina winner whyte acknowledged the final eliminator fight and simply wanted that shot. As for the UKAD situation. Under ukad rules, Whyte was innocent until proven guilty, hence ukad werent allowed to go public with the test result. The news was LEAKED BY TOM HAUSER. Hauser is a guy who used to be anti-al haymon and then became pro al haymon ie on the al haymon payroll. Hauser quite literally did a phone interview shorly after the news was leaked..and proceeded to praise al haymon at one point. Wtf was that about? that is very suspect. that interview was later removed from youtube, very suspect. https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/7/26/8931716/thomas-hauser-says-dillian-whyte-failed-drug-test-was-a-systemic-failure "this video is unavailable" was the interview im talking about. In one leaked video, whyte was recorded talking to eddie 'off camera' after the presser, he asked eddie 'are they trying to set me up?' and also said 'ive not slept in 3 days'. this is before the fight, before news had been leaked. then Whyte demanded an investigation and opened a legal case....ukad concluded it was an 'isolated contamination event' so yes, that clearly means he was set up. https://www.ukad.org.uk/news/ukad-and-mr-dillian-whyte-issue-joint-statement In respect of Mr Whyte's drug testing results, the following points are relevant: There is nothing in Mr Whyte's longitudinal urinary profile to suggest that he has used steroids. The levels of the metabolites found in Mr Whyte's 20 June 2019 sample were extremely low. Mr Whyte had provided a urine sample to VADA on 17 June 2019, i.e. 3 days before his 20 June 2019 sample, which was tested by a WADA-accredited laboratory and which returned a negative result, including for the metabolites in question. Mr Whyte provided several other doping control samples to UKAD and VADA between 20 June and 20 July 2019 (i.e. the date of his fight with Oscar Rivas) – all of which also tested negative. In light of the above points, the trace amounts of metabolites found in the 20 June 2019 sample are consistent with an isolated contamination event, and they are not suggestive of doping. ukad have never used this terminology before and it was just a quick way of concealing the truth of wha really went on. You're telling me in a sport was judges, refs and belt organisations are easily paid off, it is impossible for someone in america with bags of money, to pay off someone in the uk? so how did an american journo, hauser, get first dibs on leaked news? remember the judge who scored the fury-wilder 1 fight wrongly, was a british judge. whyte would have been the mandatory. when he was stripped of mandatory by WBC instantly, it allowed Wilder vs Fury..and im pretty sure for that fight, fury was made the mandatory challenger too. https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/624897/boxing-news-tyson-fury-dillian-whyte-deontay-wilder-mandatory/ it was all just too convenient, so yeh, im definately sure Hauser getting first dibs on a leak in the uk suggests some US influence in the UK for sure. 'ukad falsified...' no, not ukad as an organisation, but someone with access to the sample tampered with it. that's my theory. Would i be ret4rded if i suggests judges and police cheifs can be corrupt/paid off? another example,UK customs and excise? i know people who pay off agents and investigators . Albanian guys in cheetham hill manchester. They import illegal produce into the uk, from class A drugs to counterfeight good, to guns. they don't even try to hide it btw. they just laugh about how easy it is..furthermore, the cops are paid off too. whilst ukad is obv much smaller and close knit, im not the first to say ukad and drug testing agencies can be corrupt, accept bribes etc. Be careful with the Albanians in town bruv, nasty guys, don't get on the wrong side of them. Someone I know owed them money for bing, and they messed him up really bad. ​​​​​​

False. Hearn said the winner would get the silver title and therefore become the mandatory, which was a lie. The silver title has never made you mandatory. Being ranked #1 has never made you mandatory. You become mandatory by winning a final eliminator. Hearn knows that fans don't understand how you become mandatory, so he lied to them and tricked them. Ortiz wasn't selected ahead of Whyte. Ortiz has never been mandatory. Beating Parker is irrelevant. Whyte needed to win a final eliminator to become mandatory, not beat a random fighter of his choosing. Breazeale agreed to face Stiverne in a final eliminator. Ortiz failed a drug test and to save the show, Stiverne was elevated to the main event. Breazeale had a signed contract for a final eliminator though, so he was legally entitled to face the leading available contender in a final eliminator. The fight was offered, in order, to everyone in the ratings and Molina was the highest rated contender willing to take the fight on short notice. The fight was offered to Whyte, but he turned it down. He didn't want to pull out of his fight with Helenius. "FINAL ELIMINATOR" = winner guaranteed title shot. You're trying to invent your own definition that final eliminator = next title shot. That's not what it means and that's never what it's meant. Breazeale had already won a final eliminator and was going to get the 2019 mandatory shot. The WBC was still going to hold another final eliminator to determine the 2020 mandatory shot. Whyte refused, using the excuse he didn't want to be "second mandatory," but had he won the final eliminator, he would have had his title shot two years ago instead of it now being 2022 and he still hasn't had his shot. Are you claiming UKAD falsified Whyte's test in a conspiracy to aid Wilder? Are you ****ing ******ed? So the big massive point you're making is 'eddie hearn lied'? i thought you were here to diss Whyte. I don't know if eddie ever literally claimed 'wbc silver belt makes whyte the MANDATORY' it was more Dillian Whyte reaches 1000th day as WBC No 1 challenger ok, so whyte held a couple of 'wbc titles' and was ranked number 1. Can you explain what black magic hoodoo al haymon did for wbc to make brezeale vs molina the 'final eliminator' fight? explain how that makes sense. “I’ve fought for all these WBC eliminators and I’ve got three WBC belts. If anyone deserves a final eliminator it’s me. I at least have to fight the Breazeale vs. Molina winner whyte acknowledged the final eliminator fight and simply wanted that shot. As for the UKAD situation. Under ukad rules, Whyte was innocent until proven guilty, hence ukad werent allowed to go public with the test result. The news was LEAKED BY TOM HAUSER. Hauser is a guy who used to be anti-al haymon and then became pro al haymon ie on the al haymon payroll. Hauser quite literally did a phone interview shorly after the news was leaked..and proceeded to praise al haymon at one point. Wtf was that about? that is very suspect. that interview was later removed from youtube, very suspect. https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/7/26/8931716/thomas-hauser-says-dillian-whyte-failed-drug-test-was-a-systemic-failure "this video is unavailable" was the interview im talking about. In one leaked video, whyte was recorded talking to eddie 'off camera' after the presser, he asked eddie 'are they trying to set me up?' and also said 'ive not slept in 3 days'. this is before the fight, before news had been leaked. then Whyte demanded an investigation and opened a legal case....ukad concluded it was an 'isolated contamination event' so yes, that clearly means he was set up. https://www.ukad.org.uk/news/ukad-and-mr-dillian-whyte-issue-joint-statement In respect of Mr Whyte's drug testing results, the following points are relevant: There is nothing in Mr Whyte's longitudinal urinary profile to suggest that he has used steroids. The levels of the metabolites found in Mr Whyte's 20 June 2019 sample were extremely low. Mr Whyte had provided a urine sample to VADA on 17 June 2019, i.e. 3 days before his 20 June 2019 sample, which was tested by a WADA-accredited laboratory and which returned a negative result, including for the metabolites in question. Mr Whyte provided several other doping control samples to UKAD and VADA between 20 June and 20 July 2019 (i.e. the date of his fight with Oscar Rivas) – all of which also tested negative. In light of the above points, the trace amounts of metabolites found in the 20 June 2019 sample are consistent with an isolated contamination event, and they are not suggestive of doping. ukad have never used this terminology before and it was just a quick way of concealing the truth of wha really went on. You're telling me in a sport was judges, refs and belt organisations are easily paid off, it is impossible for someone in america with bags of money, to pay off someone in the uk? so how did an american journo, hauser, get first dibs on leaked news? remember the judge who scored the fury-wilder 1 fight wrongly, was a british judge. whyte would have been the mandatory. when he was stripped of mandatory by WBC instantly, it allowed Wilder vs Fury..and im pretty sure for that fight, fury was made the mandatory challenger too. https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/624897/boxing-news-tyson-fury-dillian-whyte-deontay-wilder-mandatory/ it was all just too convenient, so yeh, im definately sure Hauser getting first dibs on a leak in the uk suggests some US influence in the UK for sure. 'ukad falsified...' no, not ukad as an organisation, but someone with access to the sample tampered with it. that's my theory. Would i be ret4rded if i suggests judges and police cheifs can be corrupt/paid off? another example,UK customs and excise? i know people who pay off agents and investigators . Albanian guys in cheetham hill manchester. They import illegal produce into the uk, from class A drugs to counterfeight good, to guns. they don't even try to hide it btw. they just laugh about how easy it is..furthermore, the cops are paid off too. whilst ukad is obv much smaller and close knit, im not the first to say ukad and drug testing agencies can be corrupt, accept bribes etc.

He should have accepted the Aj money I appreciate your inexperienced uneducated amateur opinion, but I disagree. To go to England for $12 million, with no rematch clause for a fight that was worth $100 million in the US would be ludicrous. Instead he fought Fury for $12 million in the US with a rematch clause. Then made another $50 million fighting him two more times.

Joshua was blatantly lowballing Wilder, so Wilder fought a trilogy with Fury and made over $50,000,000. If Whyte doesn't like the 20% and doesn't want to make $6 million, he can duck the fight and go make $2 million against Joseph Parker. Which resulted in him losing every fight and being pummelled in 2 of the fights. He now has no belts so lets see if he will accept 20 percent if he is lucky enough to challenge for a belt but my guess Fury ended his career. He should have accepted the Aj money especially at the time he had only made 1.8 million per fight. He also had a realistic chance of beating AJ. He would have made more than 50 million in 3 fights. He could had a legacy , now he will be forgotten in 18 months:cool:

just making the point that regardless what your opponents believes is your worth, if you believe you are worth more why should you accept regardless you are a champion, mandatory or even a journeymen Joshua was blatantly lowballing Wilder, so Wilder fought a trilogy with Fury and made over $50,000,000. If Whyte doesn't like the 20% and doesn't want to make $6 million, he can duck the fight and go make $2 million against Joseph Parker.

Whyte was ranked number 1 by the wbc, that was where the whole 'mandatory' argument came from. False. Hearn said the winner would get the silver title and therefore become the mandatory, which was a lie. The silver title has never made you mandatory. Being ranked #1 has never made you mandatory. You become mandatory by winning a final eliminator. Hearn knows that fans don't understand how you become mandatory, so he lied to them and tricked them. So explain to me how somehow brezeale and ortiz were selected ahead of Whyte then? whyte went on to beat parker. Ortiz wasn't selected ahead of Whyte. Ortiz has never been mandatory. Beating Parker is irrelevant. Whyte needed to win a final eliminator to become mandatory, not beat a random fighter of his choosing. Breazeale agreed to face Stiverne in a final eliminator. Ortiz failed a drug test and to save the show, Stiverne was elevated to the main event. Breazeale had a signed contract for a final eliminator though, so he was legally entitled to face the leading available contender in a final eliminator. The fight was offered, in order, to everyone in the ratings and Molina was the highest rated contender willing to take the fight on short notice. The fight was offered to Whyte, but he turned it down. He didn't want to pull out of his fight with Helenius. how the ffff can it be a final eliminator if it's ordered in April 2018, and WBC make it absolutely clear that Brezeale will be the 2019 mandatory. 1 mandatory fight a year right? ortiz had his in march 2018 and was used again for a final eliminator. The whole thing cearly reeked of corruption and support for pbc eg ortiz and wilder. However even ignoring that (fact), if it meant whyte becoming mandatory in 2020, then it wasnt a final eliminator at all "FINAL ELIMINATOR" = winner guaranteed title shot. You're trying to invent your own definition that final eliminator = next title shot. That's not what it means and that's never what it's meant. Breazeale had already won a final eliminator and was going to get the 2019 mandatory shot. The WBC was still going to hold another final eliminator to determine the 2020 mandatory shot. Whyte refused, using the excuse he didn't want to be "second mandatory," but had he won the final eliminator, he would have had his title shot two years ago instead of it now being 2022 and he still hasn't had his shot. Whyte passed the VADA tests and failed a Ukad test right? right when he was about to become wilder's mandatory......how very convenient. Are you claiming UKAD falsified Whyte's test in a conspiracy to aid Wilder? Are you fucking retarded?

How do you know. because he told us??? i stopped trusting him when he told a poster called ragamuffin that he calls his woman raggamuffin in tribute to him :luvbed: The absolute worst chat up line I have ever heard on here I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt unless proven to me otherwise. I can only go by what people tell me.

#1 - Dillian Whyte wins a semi-final eliminator against Robert Helenius and becomes WBC silver champion. Hearn begins lying to the public and claiming being silver champion makes you the mandatory (it doesn't) and that Whyte-Helenius was a final eliminator (it wasn't). #2 - Whyte begins turning down a series of final eliminators because Hearn doesn't want to risk losing a purse bid and not being able to control the ref and judges for one of Whyte's fights. #3 - Whyte uses threats of lawsuits to become interim champion in a fight where he was using performance enhancing drugs and unapproved gloves. Hearn begins lying to the public and claiming the interim title entitles you to 45% (it doesn't) and Whyte was entitled to the next title shot (he wasn't). #4 - Whyte is knocked out cold by an over the hill Povetkin. #5 - Whyte knocks out an even more over the hill Povetkin who had his lungs ravaged by covid and could barely stand. Whyte files a $400,000 purse with the WBC for this fight. #6 - Hearn doesn't bother to go to the WBC convention and doesn't send a representative either. The WBC convention is where all the promoters meet to lobby for mandatory shots, purse bid splits, etc. #7 - With nobody in attendance to argue for Matchroom's position, Top Rank's representative successfully argues that the 70/30 split should be changed to 80/20 due to Fury making 15x more than Whyte in their last fights. And now finally, on January 11 we will have the moment of truth. Will Fury-Whyte take place on DAZN? On ESPN? On Fox? On Showtime? On Triller? We'll find out soon! 1) absolute dog poo Whyte was ranked number 1 by the wbc, that was where the whole 'mandatory' argument came from. https://www.boxingnews24.com/2017/11...nked-no-1-wbc/ Here are the WBC’s NEW top 15 rankings: 1. Dillian Whyte 2. Dominic Breazeale 3. Luis Ortiz 4. Andy Ruiz 5. Mariusz Wach 6. Tony Bellew 7. Johann Duhaupas So explain to me how somehow brezeale and ortiz were selected ahead of Whyte then? whyte went on to beat parker. 2) how the ffff can it be a final eliminator if it's ordered in April 2018, and WBC make it absolutely clear that Brezeale will be the 2019 mandatory. 1 mandatory fight a year right? ortiz had his in march 2018 and was used again for a final eliminator. The whole thing cearly reeked of corruption and support for pbc eg ortiz and wilder. However even ignoring that (fact), if it meant whyte becoming mandatory in 2020, then it wasnt a final eliminator at all, it was a 'final eliminator for the next next mandatory' position. the fact is ive also explained this to you, so for you to carry on repeating 'final eliminator' shows you're a POS. 3) Whyte passed the VADA tests and failed a Ukad test right? right when he was about to become wilder's mandatory......how very convenient. However, after a ukad investigation, he was cleared and they concluded 'ISOLATED CONTAMINATION EVENT' that basically means he was set up, someone contaminated the sample. What whyte should have done was carried on with the lawsuit. WBC basically screwed him over and he lost that position. 4) lennox was knocked out like that by mccall and rahman. Basically, these things happen. Whyte was dominating that fight quite easily. povetkin, even at his worst, still had that perfect punch and he even landed it on AJ, except AJ was prepared in the moment and weathered the storm. That punch would def ko wilder and tyson fury too. AJ was literally on wobbly legs. Whyte's problem there was, he let his guard down looking to counter povetkin..and the best bit about it is whyte himself knew instantly what he'd done wrong. his attitude was 'yeh i wont do that next time' ie he consciously decided to move against his own better judgement by trying to counter povetkin and thus finish the fight. had povetkin not been hurt, he wouldnt have tried countering. 5) so povetkin had covid but a couple of weeks later uploaded a video of him dancing with his wife. it's so obv povetkin faked covid to buy himself more time to rest/recover. povetin was literally walking around normal all week in the buildup to that fight. yet in the ringwalk he was stumbling. you know what i think? that was deliberate by povetkin, he did that to just trick whyte, to make believe he is broken. the only difference is whyte let loose on him and just ended it. no mercy. 6) why did eddie need to go to a convension when he'd been every yr before and nothing came out of that? lmfao this is an argument? whyte was already suing wbc at the time, why would eddie to go a corrupt convension? the reality is sulaiman is corrupt and eddie knows it, you know it, we all know it. 7) 15x? Whyte was paid £4m (pounds), $5.5m against povetkin. Fury was paid $20m. you have previously said it was $30m, Basically what you're doing here is deliverately making out that whyte only made $300k vs povetkin..and that is based on a misinterpretation of what Frank Warren meant when he said 'the last time whyte went to purse bid' (2018, ibf vs pulev). you are a dog sh** poster man, every single point youve made is a lie or is just petty. your obsession with this guy btw is embarassing. Just explain to me how Whyte was ranked number 1 in 2018 but then others were given shots at wilder before him? did it have anything to do with the pbc connection to wbc?

You don't need to explain the Silver belt. It's silly named trinket. It's a joke. The WBC is a joke. Don't take any offense, it's not personal, all the other sanctioning bodies are a joke too. I know that you have close ties to the sanctioning body...I enjoy your posts and insight but I don't respect the sanctioning bodies. How do you know. because he told us??? i stopped trusting him when he told a poster called ragamuffin that he calls his woman raggamuffin in tribute to him :luvbed: The absolute worst chat up line I have ever heard on here

Wilder wasn’t a mandatory though, he was a champion, it was a unification and a far bigger fight than Fury-Whyte. It’s not even comparable really. i responded to you above . which obviously i agree with your point

Wilder wasn’t a mandatory though, he was a champion, it was a unification and a far bigger fight than Fury-Whyte. It’s not even comparable really. of course, just making the point that regardless what your opponents believes is your worth, if you believe you are worth more why should you accept regardless you are a champion, mandatory or even a journeymen

The title fight is available to Dillian Shyte and it will be for a good payday. There's no logical reason to turn it down. If he does it's a duck.

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#1 - Dillian Whyte wins a semi-final eliminator against Robert Helenius and becomes WBC silver champion. Hearn begins lying to the public and claiming being silver champion makes you the mandatory (it doesn't) and that Whyte-Helenius was a final eliminator (it wasn't). #2 - Whyte begins turning down a series of final eliminators because Hearn doesn't want to risk losing a purse bid and not being able to control the ref and judges for one of Whyte's fights. #3 - Whyte uses threats of lawsuits to become interim champion in a fight where he was using performance enhancing drugs and unapproved gloves. Hearn begins lying to the public and claiming the interim title entitles you to 45% (it doesn't) and Whyte was entitled to the next title shot (he wasn't). #4 - Whyte is knocked out cold by an over the hill Povetkin. #5 - Whyte knocks out an even more over the hill Povetkin who had his lungs ravaged by covid and could barely stand. Whyte files a $400,000 purse with the WBC for this fight. #6 - Hearn doesn't bother to go to the WBC convention and doesn't send a representative either. The WBC convention is where all the promoters meet to lobby for mandatory shots, purse bid splits, etc. #7 - With nobody in attendance to argue for Matchroom's position, Top Rank's representative successfully argues that the 70/30 split should be changed to 80/20 due to Fury making 15x more than Whyte in their last fights. And now finally, on January 11 we will have the moment of truth. Will Fury-Whyte take place on DAZN? On ESPN? On Fox? On Showtime? On Triller? We'll find out soon! The people here that are emotionally involved with how much Whyte should make will be all over you again.

Of the four bodies, the WBC is by far the most credible, most respected and least corrupt. It's not even close. {"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","title":"ricky-gervais-laugh.gif","data-attachmentid":31247184}

You don't need to explain the Silver belt. It's silly named trinket. It's a joke. The WBC is a joke. Don't take any offense, it's not personal, all the other sanctioning bodies are a joke too. i don't like the silver title. i don't believe second place should get a belt. but i had no influence with the WBC when it was created and at least it's better than having a bunch of interim champions. I know that you have close ties to the sanctioning body...I enjoy your posts and insight but I don't respect the sanctioning bodies. As Don King said to David Letterman many decades ago, nobody has come up with a better alternative. You have a worldwide sport made up of rival promoters. Someone has to administer the sport and act as a go between for the rival promoters who would get nothing done if they didn't have a mutually agreed upon body to settle disputes and make rulings. Of the four bodies, the WBC is by far the most credible, most respected and least corrupt. It's not even close.

If Dillian Shyte and Rematchroom turn down this fight now... what a gang of cowards. 20% of the purse is still like winning the lottery for Shyte. You have to be an absolute bum dosser to support these fools. That's what I was thinking this whole time. Imagine being so, imo narrow minded, that you are willing to pass up 20% of the pot, for a shot at the title. Maybe he thinks he has a better chance if can swerve this or that way. But with my limited knowledge of his personal detailed plans or hopes, I think it's a bad chess move to pass up this jump. I think his stock now is as high as it's ever going to be, and he ought to grab for it. A friend shared this object lesson with me once. A guy is climbing a mountain. He slips and falls, and his rope catches him. The top of the cliff, where his rope is hanging over, juts out. So in that moment, the guy falls, his rope catches him, and he swings away from the cliff face. He knows that as he swings forward, that will be his last best chance to grab for the cliff face, because after that, the pendulum action will decrease. In other words, when he swings forward and then back again, the next time forward, he won't be as close to the cliff as he was the time before. Anyway, Whyte just fell, and he's swinging toward the cliff face. I think if he doesn't reach for it, that's his last best shot. But it's just my opinion