Looks to me that the writing is on the wall. Lomachenko is going to blast through Commey like he did Nakatani. And then he'll be the mandatory for Kambosos Jr. Kambosos already said that he'd fight Loma, which will be his biggest mistake.
I have a healthy Loma cleaning house at 135. Tank won't fight him, and Haney won't fight him either. But Kambosos is true to his word, and he'll get in the ring with Lomachenko, and when Loma has all the belts again, none of these others will have any excuse not to fight him.
By end of 2022, Loma will be undisputed. You can put that in the bank.
What a surprise.... I was right. :cool:
Lomachenko's the only one I can see traveling out of the US for the fight. Kambosis-Loma next.
I personally believe Lomachenko is the only one that will actually go to Australia for the fight. At this stage of his career he has nothing to lose at 135. Can always move back down.
Haney-Kambosis has SD written all over it. Haney can say hed fight in Oz, but his team would be stupid to let him take that fight. So would Tanks and Garcias. I see the handlers for all three trying to find the dollar figure to get Kambosis to fight them in Vegas.
That would be awesome if Loma got them back. For me, that's the right guy to have them. Then don't give Teo a fight as Teo didn't give him a rematch. That would be check mate.
With that said though I think Teo is going up in weight since this loss. His dad already said it.
That doesn't make any sense. First, when you are elevated to Franchise Champion, you have to drop the WBC belt. You're assuming a lot here and those assumptions are incorrect. When Haney was interim champion and Loma had the WBC champion belt, it was still not a mandatory fight. I explained this all to The Big Dunn, and he conceded that I was correct. Even The Big Dunn had to concede. Haney was never positioned into a mandatory position to fight Loma.
Second, Loma never petitioned himself. TopRank petitioned and explained to Loma that it was an award. He assumed that he'd be able to keep the WBC Champion belt because he was worried he'd no longer be undisputed at that point, but Suleiman assured him that's not the case.
Third, when Haney was interim champion, he still had to petition the WBC to challenge for the champ belt and force a voluntary title defense. Those are the rules. And that didn't change when Haney picked up the WBC belt. He had to petition the WBC to force a bout with Lomachenko. Haney is in the position of a challenger, so he had to challenge. Did Haney every file a petition to fight Loma? No. He didn't.
Even Bill said that Loma didn't duck Haney. Haney's father recently stated that. So just stop with this BS.
There was no reason to petition for the Franchise Belt. The WBC mandatory hadn't been called yet so Teofimo vs Lomachenko was free to happen.
Now, Devin Haney would have been looming as the mando for the winner of that fight. And Top Rank didn't want that so they dropped the belt to completely bypass Haney altogether.
Everyone can see what happened there. We aren't dumb.
And Lomachenko is responsible for what his team does in his name.
Lomachenko could have fought Teofimo without dropping the WBC belt, and that would have allowed Haney to still keep his mando spot.
Dropping the belt was their way to take Haney out of the picture altogether.
That doesn't make any sense. First, when you are elevated to Franchise Champion, you have to drop the WBC belt. You're assuming a lot here and those assumptions are incorrect. When Haney was interim champion and Loma had the WBC champion belt, it was still not a mandatory fight. I explained this all to The Big Dunn, and he conceded that I was correct. Even The Big Dunn had to concede. Haney was never positioned into a mandatory position to fight Loma.
Second, Loma never petitioned himself. TopRank petitioned and explained to Loma that it was an award. He assumed that he'd be able to keep the WBC Champion belt because he was worried he'd no longer be undisputed at that point, but Suleiman assured him that's not the case.
Third, when Haney was interim champion, he still had to petition the WBC to challenge for the champ belt and force a voluntary title defense. Those are the rules. And that didn't change when Haney picked up the WBC belt. He had to petition the WBC to force a bout with Lomachenko. Haney is in the position of a challenger, so he had to challenge. Did Haney every file a petition to fight Loma? No. He didn't.
Even Bill said that Loma didn't duck Haney. Haney's father recently stated that. So just stop with this BS.
When no one here thought Fury was going to KO Wilder I told you and I am telling you that Loma is the best of the bunch. I don't car what color he is, where he is from, he is the best of them all.
And he will get his belts back if corporate sh I t doesn't stand in the way.
I want you to clearly state why you believe Lomachenko avoided Haney. Just lay it out. I'm curious. But don't go running when I make you look stupid.
Lomachenko could have fought Teofimo without dropping the WBC belt, and that would have allowed Haney to still keep his mando spot.
Dropping the belt was their way to take Haney out of the picture altogether.
Kambosos will fight Devin Haney (assuming he gets past JoJo.)
Then let's see if Lomachenko still wants to go get all his belts. He dropped the WBC last time rather than fight Devin, remember.
I want you to clearly state why you believe Lomachenko avoided Haney. Just lay it out. I'm curious. But don't go running when I make you look stupid.
Kambosos vs Haney first
Loma can earn his way back to a title shot with a couple of wins, then fight the winner
Kambosos especially looks as if he’ll be at 135 for a while
If you look at the rankings, Loma is ranked #1 f the WBO and the #1 WBC (so he can petition Suleiman). I thought he was #1 for the IBF too. I could have sworn he had been ranked number one. Anyway, Arum could get the WBO to order a title defense within the next nine months. So after Commey, we could see a Loma rematch. It's possible. And I have no doubt Loma will blast through Commey just as he did Nakatani. A Loma fight in the land down under would be awesome.
Lomachenko ducking his mando who was about to be DEVIN HANEY is the reason we have this mess at 135 right now as far as Unidpsuted vs Disputed. Lomachenko is 100% to blame for this.
If you believe that then you're fucking stupid. Plain and simple.
Lol at “Haney won’t fight him”. He’s already ducked Haney 2 years ago genius. He vacated the wbc belt to avoid Haney. He had a chance to be there undisputed and passed it up. Were you even a boxing fan then?
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...n#post28468705
You still believe that nonsense? I'd gladly get into that with you and you're not gong to like the outcome. You're either going to look like you have a man crush on Haney and/or you're going to roll on your back and shout "mercy."
Everyone is well aware Loma had no involvement in that decision and has stated as much in interviews. That was all Bob and Moretti's grubby little hands. Get real,Loma isn't afraid of Haney,then or now. His resume has shown as much.
Lomachenko's team (Bob and Moretti) requested Franchise Champion status rather than fight their mando Haney.
Since they represent him that is a bad look on Lomachenko as well.
And he still has that same team so why would anyone think he'd be willing to face Haney now all of a sudden?
More lies from Loma fans:
Loma is not mandatory for any of the belts
Kambosos said he will want to fight Haney next and never mentioned Loma
Haney has been chasing Loma for 2 years and Loma ducked him and dropped the WBC belt rather than face Haney.
Its seem every post by Loma fans is a lie and exaggerated LOL
Suck a sick one and choke you slack jawed deep throat piece of sht
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Because despite all of that most people think he's the best in that division. Certainly the most proven of them all. Period.
He was proven and then he lost. I’m not dying for his return to grace, he lost fair and square and gets coddled with fights often. There’s fighters that have to beg for fights that are at his doorsteps. Yeah he’s good but he’s a known commodity, I’d rather see fresh blood, not old news
Kambosos will fight Devin Haney (assuming he gets past JoJo.)
Then let's see if Lomachenko still wants to go get all his belts. He dropped the WBC last time rather than fight Devin, remember.
Everyone is well aware Loma had no involvement in that decision and has stated as much in interviews. That was all Bob and Moretti's grubby little hands. Get real,Loma isn't afraid of Haney,then or now. His resume has shown as much.
Suck a sick one and choke you slack jawed deep throat piece of sht
You’re salty and sore. I can’t wait to see your responses when Loma becomes undisputed.
Kambosos better not give a shot to Lomachenko.
That’s an even worse style match up than fighting Gervonta.
I guess he wouldn’t have to worry about getting knocked clean tf out but Lomachenko will just dance circles around him with his head hunting straights.
Kambosos should really put all focus on Haney. Because that is the closest fight to his favor of all the best 135lb fighters. I can see Haney losing a decision like Teo.
Loma, Tank, Ryan? I don’t see him being able to do what he did to Teo, to them. They each have stylistic advantages vs Kambosos imo.
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