While I have no problem with Canelo fighting at Cruiser, it would be pretty amazing - I'm guessing by making this mandatory they are deciding the split too? 80% Canelo? This is really an optional defence. Canelo has not proven he's able to fight at cruiser, never mind challenge the champion.
Then theres the Heavyweight situation where they simply won't grant a mandatory for personal reasons, whether that's because they just want Wilder/Fury to be champion or a dislike of Whyte/Hearn.
Boxing needs an overall governing body! I know, broken record....
I'm just a fan of boxing fact boy.
I don't claim to know the facts like yourself.
Though the facts seem to line up perfectly against the boxers you hate hey... Funny that ;)
You’re clearly a fanboy, that’s in denial about Whyte’s shortcomings.
Since when do I hate Whyte? Just because I don’t think he’s worthy of a title shot? I must hate a lot of boxers then.
I gave you four reasons why I think Whyte doesn’t deserve a title shot. They’re all true whether you like it or not.
Deep down you do know the facts but you’re deliberately ignoring them because it suits your agenda.
As I keep asking you… what have I said that’s untrue????
YOU KEEP DUCKING THAT QUESTION.
WBC making up rules by making 190 the new cruiserweight division and selectively enforcing mandatories.
I know it's been 175 to 200 for forever but 25lbs pounds between division is pretty extreme. If they don't do it for Canelo they should just do it for the sport in general. Just my simple opinion. Hell, you can probably squeeze in two more division within that gap.
So you were WRONG then.
You Whyte fanboys seem to have a real problem with factual information.
I'm just a fan of boxing fact boy.
I don't claim to know the facts like yourself.
Though the facts seem to line up perfectly against the boxers you hate hey... Funny that ;)
He got cleared for one of them, so about as fuctually correct as everything else you have said!
You can hate and be level headed. You don't have to be a crazy!
I said he failed two tests. Getting cleared doesn’t change that.
Idiot…
You’re either delusional or incredibly stupid.
How can you not know whether somebody failing two drug tests is true or not when the testers CONFIRMED it. It’s a f***ing fact. :lol1:
WTF is going on in this thread… :lol1:
He got cleared for one of them, so about as fuctually correct as everything else you have said!
You can hate and be level headed. You don't have to be a crazy!
stop with this divisive nonsense eg 'you whyte fans'. This is not about being a whyte fan.
a couple of things you forgot, whyte had only just fought Chisora in December. He was offered the AJ fight a month later...late January.
The fight would have been mid April.
Really it would have been around 10 weeks.
£5m is what he was offered, for AJ..why would he take that eg he just earned £4m vs povetkin 2...
so he would force himself to fight AJ for £5m and lose any leverage with the wbc mandatory narrative that enables whyte to constantly earn good sums of money and remain the spotlight.
totally bad business to fight aj..and it's only a secondary argument this one. The fact is whyte was a threat to beyonce, so they messed him about..but these dog poo part time boxers like brezeale, molina, stiverne etc get easy mandatory spots.
I’m not reading any of your nonsense man. You’re only wasting your own time typing it out.
Your profile picture is of a troll. We all know what your game is.
There is zero way of knowing if any of this is fact. It's literally hearsay and gossip from a boxing forum.
I'm not sure you understand what the word 'fact' even means.
You’re either delusional or incredibly stupid.
How can you not know whether somebody failing two drug tests is true or not when the testers CONFIRMED it. It’s a f***ing fact. :lol1:
WTF is going on in this thread… :lol1:
- -200 the current cruiser limit.
Y U make up shllt?
'Toopid?
Why you can’t read or search? Illiteracy?
https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-prez-lower-cruiser-limit-190-which-force-boxers-bridgerweight--153214
https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/32648380/canelo-alvarez-gets-wbc-approval-fight-illunga-junior-makabu-cruiserweight-title
Hint, search for 190 on each page.
I stopped reading at late notice. Whyte was given 4 months notice.
As I said lunatics. :lol1:
stop with this divisive nonsense eg 'you whyte fans'. This is not about being a whyte fan.
a couple of things you forgot, whyte had only just fought Chisora in December. He was offered the AJ fight a month later...late January.
The fight would have been mid April.
Really it would have been around 10 weeks.
£5m is what he was offered, for AJ..why would he take that eg he just earned £4m vs povetkin 2...
so he would force himself to fight AJ for £5m and lose any leverage with the wbc mandatory narrative that enables whyte to constantly earn good sums of money and remain the spotlight.
totally bad business to fight aj..and it's only a secondary argument this one. The fact is whyte was a threat to beyonce, so they messed him about..but these dog poo part time boxers like brezeale, molina, stiverne etc get easy mandatory spots.
Name one thing I said that is factually incorrect?
You keep ducking that question because you know everything I’ve said is true.
Whyte fans have zero basis to say anything I’ve stated is not correct. Most of them would admit it was true because it f***ing is! :lol1:
There is zero way of knowing if any of this is fact. It's literally hearsay and gossip from a boxing forum.
I'm not sure you understand what the word 'fact' even means.
what are you on about? he didnt duck anyone. plain and simple. He rejected a late notice £5m offer from AJ for the Wembley date. He also was very open and clear that it was WILDER/wbc route he wanted to go down. As i said, aj and whyte 2 will happen one day regardless of anything else.
who else? ortiz?
there are at least 3 points here
1) whyte vs ortiz would have been for SECOND MANDATORY...meaning brezeale was still mandatory. Whyte openly said it is bs if it isn't for THE mandatory spot.
2) why was ortiz even thrown in when he had his mandatory fight and lost? clear favouritism for pbc fighters. Whilst ortiz, brezeale, stiverne etc didnt have to do anything to get a mandatory shot, whyte was being messed around with.
3) ortiz has no credibility. whyte has openly said numerous times that he said YES..and ortiz went awol. If this was a lie, ortiz would have publically responded. Reality was, we've all seen it, ortiz has no resume whatsoever and always pretends he wants big fight.
has nothing to do with being a whyte fan. im making sense and you're being a hater.
I stopped reading at late notice. Whyte was given 4 months notice.
As I said lunatics. :lol1:
Well if say its factually correct it must be lol
You have no clue what's real and not.
The Whyte fans will say it's not and you will say it is.
You seem the type who would drown a 'witch'.
Stop trying to convince me of something that none of us know anything about. It's pointless.
You hate him though, I get it.
Name one thing I said that is factually incorrect?
You keep ducking that question because you know everything I’ve said is true.
Whyte fans have zero basis to say anything I’ve stated is not correct. Most of them would admit it was true because it f***ing is! :lol1:
WBC making up rules by making 190 the new cruiserweight division and selectively enforcing mandatories.
- -200 the current cruiser limit.
Y U make up shllt?
'Toopid?
What did I say that was wrong?
As I’ve said multiple times, everything I have said about Whyte is factually accurate.
You’re showing your agenda here by ignoring the truth.
Well if say its factually correct it must be lol
You have no clue what's real and not.
The Whyte fans will say it's not and you will say it is.
You seem the type who would drown a 'witch'.
Stop trying to convince me of something that none of us know anything about. It's pointless.
You hate him though, I get it.
I guarantee Hearn sat with him pulled him to the side and said don’t go through with it . He tried doing doing that with Povetkin and that’s what got Whyte in trouble in the first place even though it was a fight he should have won then had to go reclaim his spot as a mandatory but the problem is the WBC never said he did even if it’s in their rules that any fighter that defeated a mandatory gets the position. Leading up to the fight everyone was starting to favor Wallin or at least give him a legit chance ,Wallins style is very difficult for Whyte and a definite potential loss ,when looking at the time of injury it’s just to convenient for me to believe Whyte . I believe he would have fought Wallin had Wilder defeated Fury because the mandatory then resets I think fir a new champion ?
Im not saying it is right or wrong to avoid a fight you initially chose to get a guarantee of a bigger one it was actually probably smart I myself was slightly favoring Wallin though I do believe Whyte is problematic for Fury more then most stylistically and that’s probably why Fury doesn’t want that potential loss ? Either way Fury as a champion needs to take his first real first title defense and show he can do it ,I’m not counting Wilder it’s a joke as a first title defense when he beat the guy twice already .
So the fact that there's a credible doctor who represents Leicester City FC aswell as Leicester Tigers (rugby) and has worked with the English rugby national team aswell, would come out in public to confirm DW's injury and surgery, is not enough?
Everything else is an assumption. However, what you don't seem to realise is, Whyte has historically benefited from this whole 'mandatory/not-mandatory' narrative. it's helped him keep himself in the spotlight and made him a bigger name in the UK. He got £4m from the povetkin 2 fight and would have done similar for a Wallin fight. He isnt going to make a lot more vs Fury. in fact it benefits whyte to keep on fighting lesser fighters but keep the whole narrative running. In otherwords Whyte wanted another nice payday from a wallin fight. furthermore, with or without a guaranteed mandatory spot, if whyte ever feared wallin why would he have taken it? it makes no sense.
Capital letters and emojis don't make you anymore right. Just makes you seem more like that crazy dude ready to jump off the roof.
It doesn't matter anyway, the WBC need to order a mandatory! Now!
Well done for saying that they are scumbags, we're getting there.
What did I say that was wrong?
As I’ve said multiple times, everything I have said about Whyte is factually accurate.
You’re showing your agenda here by ignoring the truth.
What don’t we know about?
We KNOW he rejected two eliminators.
We KNOW he rejected a direct shot against Joshua.
We KNOW a 40 year old Povetkin iced him.
We KNOW he failed two drugs test.
I have no agenda whatsoever, those are all facts. F*** the WBC, they’re money grabbing scumbags but that doesn’t change my stance on Whyte. He isn’t deserving of a title shot IMO, regardless of where the WBC choose to rank him.
Capital letters and emojis don't make you anymore right. Just makes you seem more like that crazy dude ready to jump off the roof.
It doesn't matter anyway, the WBC need to order a mandatory! Now!
Well done for saying that they are scumbags, we're getting there.