How badly does Calzaghe batter Andre Ward

Calzaghe gets beat up and stopped. Ward eats that guy for breaky and shits out glamorgan sausage

calzaghe takes ward to slap city. too much movement and too fast handspeed, he is getting in his slaps and finessing over ward before ward can get in for the hugfest clinch.

I like Slappy but I think Ward's too dirty and mean. He'll get them nuts Joe is much too fast and has a superior work rate which would frustrate ward I could just as easily see ward taking the easy way out and going Golota with low blows to stop the embarrassment

I'm not complaining about Ward's fighting style. It is what it is like you said. I just don't rate his Dawson win very high and Ward DID LOSE in Kovalev 1. It was 7-5 Kovy w/ the KD. The rematch was fine and I thought Ward won the rematch straight up. People focus on the low blows but Kovy turned his back multiple times in the fight and the straight right hand is what pretty much ended the fight. The saddest thing about the rematch is how Tony Weekes - horrific ref - didn't let Ward get the stoppage win. Left an asterisk on the fight and it didn't need to be. Instead of TKO do a standing...err sitting 10 count. Give Kovy the chance to fight on. Instead it looks like Ward won "dirty" but he really didn't. And Weekes not calling some of the low punches is also what led to complaints. Weekes is a horrific referee. I still think Calzaghe gets majorly underrated. He was a problem for RJJ before he was completely shot, he beat a 38-39 year old BHop and BHop went on to do great things afterward, beat a prime Froch and Ward struggled with an older Froch (but Ward clearly won). I know some people are super high on Ward but I'm not convinced prime Ward beats prime Calzaghe or prime Canelo I agree with everything you said. We will never know who would win but it will be close either way.I dont think Joe and Carl ever thought but i could be wrong

calslappy uds him. Ward is/was incredibly overrated and a protected fighter.

Ah yes. The Calzaghe era. Great fighter, can't say I miss him though. These forums were a nightmare when he was active. But, I'll entertain this nonsense I guess. Ward wasn't prime nor at his best weight by the time he fought Kovalev. According to a lot of people, Calzaghe lost to Robin Reid. Based off of that, a younger, smaller, quicker Ward outboxes Calzaghe to a UD. See I can use fights as reference too. - -According to a lot of peeps Wart bricked it vs Kov the first fight and should've been DQed for serial lowblows the 2'nd fight, whereas past prime SuperJoe cleaned out the competition over him in Roy and Whiteboy Popkins...:dance:

Kovalev was also considered the boogeyman and he went up in weight to challenge him.....fury wouldn't punch his opponents in the nuts but he would continually hold when up close, get his man in a headlock, hit his opponent when the ref has asked him to separate. however it is what it is I'm not complaining and you are definitely not yet you complain about Ward not standing in one spot to get punched. As for Wlad he didn't avenge all his losses so you are wrong there too. Ward did if you want to count the Kovalev first fight. Ward too dominated 98% of his opponents. He didn't have dynamite in his fists to turn to like Wlad. He was strong, tough, smart and half white if that criteria means so much to you Ward is more Irish than I am...

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Dawson lost to Adonis Stevenson, Fonfara, Pascal, Ward, and some random nobody. The dude was absolutely a hypejob. Wlad avenged all of his losses and dominated 98% of his opponents. Fury just KO'd the supposed "boogeyman" aka alternative energy by WINDMILLS...TWICE. Fury isn't punching anyone in the nuts, holding and hitting, hitting after on the break, etc. That's what Ward did. Fury didn't run around the ring like a girl everytime Deontay hit him with a jab, Andre did when Sergey jabbed him. Fury is everything Andre wanted to be. Strong, tough, smart, and white. Kovalev was also considered the boogeyman and he went up in weight to challenge him.....fury wouldn't punch his opponents in the nuts but he would continually hold when up close, get his man in a headlock, hit his opponent when the ref has asked him to separate. however it is what it is I'm not complaining and you are definitely not yet you complain about Ward not standing in one spot to get punched. As for Wlad he didn't avenge all his losses so you are wrong there too. Ward did if you want to count the Kovalev first fight. Ward too dominated 98% of his opponents. He didn't have dynamite in his fists to turn to like Wlad. He was strong, tough, smart and half white if that criteria means so much to you

Chad Dawson, Carl Froch, Arthur Abraham etc. Are those guys C level? Did he cheat to beat them? lol He beat them all without even getting touched. He beat up Carl Froch so badly that he remains bitter towards him till this day. Bent his beak for him also ,which is always a good reminder just how good your opposition was

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Ward had major problems with the work rate of Kov in the first fight and should’ve lost but was given a 114-113 win against a guy that had no where near the stamina of Joe. I think Joe hits hard enough to get respect and the sheer volume overwhelms ward for a UD or a late tko for the dragon. What are you talking about? I dont think it was the work rate of Kovalev that made Ward struggle. Besides after 6 rounds he was not quite as dominant which was a combination of his work rate subsiding and Ward figuring him out but i cant hate he did win the first fight.. Joe was good but not Ward good. Hopkins and Roy jones beats him also in their prime of course. Joe had an unmatchable engine though, but those slaps are not stopping the three fighters i mentioned

Ward would have bullied Slappy Joe. Muscled him around the ring landing shots from unexpected angles and at unexpected moments, varying the range. Clinching when Joe thinks they're throwing and then releasing once Joe accedes to the clinch and then punching him up on the way out. Wears him down, frustrates him and then stops him late. To think Calzaghe would beat S.O.G. is ludicrous.

Chad Dawson, Carl Froch, Arthur Abraham etc. Are those guys C level? Did he cheat to beat them? lol It never ceases to amaze me how people are willing to conviently change the ability of a fighter to make excuses, or justify an opinion.. Heres the truth: At that time the guys above were considered excellent fighters... Solid, no nonsense winners... guys like Kessler, Froch and Abrahms who had fought through a broken jaw... the division was considered very strong and not only wasn't Ward predicted to win the tournament... it was supposed to be close. People just forget this... And Ward did not WIN the tournament... He dominated the tournament. He made it a wash.

What are you talking about? Ward beat Dawson 2nd, Pascal did it 1st. Pascal beat the UNDEFEATED Dawson at 175 and Ward beat the drained version at 168. Sure Ward stopped Dawson (at 168) but nobody beat Dawson more clearly than Stevenson who KO'd Dawson in 1 Round... SO please tell me wtf youre talking about My bad. I forgot about Pascal... yes he did beat Dawson first. I was mistaken. Ward beat his opposition in his division resolutely, he won his fights with ease, dominating in a division traditionally stacked with talent... Guys like Froch... Dawson was an excellent fighter and everyone assumes Ward won because of Dawson's "drained" condition. If you watch how Ward won that fight it is a technical masterpiece. He keeps shooting a left hook below Dawson's temple. Dawson keeps responding by lowering the hand just a bit each time. eventually Ward has Dawson lowering his hand past the sweet spot for the blow. When this happens he knocks Dawson for a loop with that same left hook. Watch the fight... that is why Ward won that fight... Superior technical strategy and ability.

Chad Dawson, Carl Froch, Arthur Abraham etc. Are those guys C level? Did he cheat to beat them? lol Dawson was drained at a weight he hadn't fought for in 6 years that his trainer advised against. Carl Froch is a decent but unspectacular fighter. Arthur Abraham was mediocre at super middle weight. Having said that I think Ward vs Calzaghe would be a very close fight. I think Breadman thinks it would be a best of three type of fight.

Low tier troll thread.

Apparently Adonis Stevenson, Fonfara, and some random nobody were as good as Ward because they systematically beat Dawson down too. Hell add Pascal to that list also LMFAO...the GREAT Jean PASCAL XD XD XD ....... ............................ Ward did it first and he made it look easy. And Ward did it consistently... it was more than any one opponent. Ward dominated his division before moving up, against excellent workman like fighters with no slips ups.

I like Joe but Ward outpoints him down the stretch.

Kessler... he left Kessler & Kovalev out because everyone knows Ward cheated in those fights