Losing in boxing vs losing in MMA

Yeah that ground game stuff doesn't work in a real fight bro ...okay? Its a good job they dont just train ground stuff then I guess, in case they ever get into a "real fight"...... Didnt you literally just say MMA is fighting? lol. I thought we were talking about technical skills anyway not what may or may not work on da streetz.

The ground game in MMA alone is more technically complex than all of boxing. Boxing just looks "prettier" because its pretty much fencing with fists, theres aesthetics to the simplicity, but aesthetics is not necessarily the same thing as technique/skill. Nobody in boxing has the depth of skillset that somebody like Volk or Yan have, and Gane makes Fury look technically basic in comparison. Yeah that ground game stuff doesn't work in a real fight bro

Boxing fans are mostly clueless; carried away with fanship and media narratives. A true fan of the sport doesn't care if a fighter has many Ls and rarely mentions it, after all, every fight is still nothing but a fight. Fans make up ideas in their heads who the top guys are, which was fed to them by their bias and the media, whereas in reality, figuring that out is near impossible 'cos fighters would almost have to all fight each other. Some even go as far as crating a top-N. Very laughable. I have long decided not to be a fan of any boxer. I don't care much if a certain fight doesn't happen provided there are other fights out there for me to watch. All fans care about nowadays is to allign with popular opinion, created mostly by a media with an agenda, or simply parroting what others say. Take Chisora for instance. Some boxing fans here sh*t on him for his loses but if you look closely, their fav fighter has been around for a long time but has not fought (if any) most of the fighters Chisora lost to. I don't follow MMA; can't speak about it.

MMA is fighting, boxing is more of a craft. You hone your skills and develop your craft. Naturally the elite are in a class of their own. MMA seems to be more of a tough man contest when it comes down to it. The ground game in MMA alone is more technically complex than all of boxing. Boxing just looks "prettier" because its pretty much fencing with fists, theres aesthetics to the simplicity, but aesthetics is not necessarily the same thing as technique/skill. Nobody in boxing has the depth of skillset that somebody like Volk or Yan have, and Gane makes Fury look technically basic in comparison.

MMA is fighting, boxing is more of a craft. You hone your skills and develop your craft. Naturally the elite are in a class of their own. MMA seems to be more of a tough man contest when it comes down to it.

MMA is a sport of losers and is watched by losers. Losing is what these people know, what they're used to. This is why they embrace their stars losing. To them it's normal. Boxing is a sport of winners. ​​​​​​ You have Jake Paul in your avatar. :rolleyes:

There's something wrong with a division if all the top 5 are undefeated.

if u get exposed and outboxed people abandon ship quick, thats why the sport is full of so many divas, their 0 is no1, mma is sink or swim, u get matched hard all the time, u win some u lose some unless the roids are especially good or u really are special

MMA is a sport of losers and is watched by losers. Losing is what these people know, what they're used to. This is why they embrace their stars losing. To them it's normal. Boxing is a sport of winners. ​​​​​​

Top elite boxers are more proficient at their art. Its an unfair comparison because they're not equal skillsets, Its checkers vs chess. Of course its easier to master a much more narrow skillset especially when the sport is much older as well. In order to master MMA you'd need to simultaneously be a world champion level boxer/kickboxer/MT guy and an ADCC champ level grappler and/or olympic medallist level wrestler...its not possible.

1) More variables in MMA so more ways to lose. 2) Smaller gloves, no counts after a KD etc so fights can end out of nowhere from one split second decision, meaning more upsets. 3) Far more areas of your game you could look to improve after a loss, and more possible gameplans you could use next time. Combine all that with the relative frequency of elite level opponents being matched together in MMA and of course losses are going to be more acceptable. Its pretty much standard promotional tactic in boxing to engineer undefeated records for practically anyone halfway decent so the 0 can be cashed out years later.

In MMA the best fight the best and somebody has to lose...in boxing the best seldom fight the best to protect that "0".

There are a lot more variables in MMA and MMA guys generally have 0-5 amateur fights. They are all learning multiple martial arts on the fly, on top of generally being matched more evenly. There are differences of course in style and rulesets depending on where you go and the amateur vs pro distinctions, but for the most part boxing is boxing and everyone competing in it has been specializing in it since they were 8-12 years old. In MMA most fighters specialized in one or two different styles and then quickly became pro. So they may be able to win certain fights with their boxing background or their BJJ background, but then get tossed on their head by a Judoka or eat a knee to the dome from a Muay Thai guy. Look at Holly Holm. When she first started in MMA, all she really had was her boxing combinations and a good head kick from her limited kickboxing background. Fast forward to her most recent two fights and she was pushing people against the cage and actually going for takedowns of her own rather than just trying to stay at range and land strikes. She's an entirely different beast right now than the one who knocked out Rousey, who herself looked unbeatable with her Judo until she got punched (then kicked, then punched again) in the face. I can see the chance of them losing might be higher but still the doesn’t change how fans still support them after they lose unlike boxing.

Because Boxing fans want you to keep your 0 while giving the fans quality fights.

There are a lot more variables in MMA and MMA guys generally have 0-5 amateur fights. They are all learning multiple martial arts on the fly, on top of generally being matched more evenly. There are differences of course in style and rulesets depending on where you go and the amateur vs pro distinctions, but for the most part boxing is boxing and everyone competing in it has been specializing in it since they were 8-12 years old. In MMA most fighters specialized in one or two different styles and then quickly became pro. So they may be able to win certain fights with their boxing background or their BJJ background, but then get tossed on their head by a Judoka or eat a knee to the dome from a Muay Thai guy. Look at Holly Holm. When she first started in MMA, all she really had was her boxing combinations and a good head kick from her limited kickboxing background. Fast forward to her most recent two fights and she was pushing people against the cage and actually going for takedowns of her own rather than just trying to stay at range and land strikes. She's an entirely different beast right now than the one who knocked out Rousey, who herself looked unbeatable with her Judo until she got punched (then kicked, then punched again) in the face.