When (and how) he lost to Ruiz, you would think the sensible answer from anyone who knows boxing would be - 'OK, this guy isn't really that good. A really good fighter would never lose to Andy Ruiz, especially the way AJ lost that fight'
Instead, people talk about how that win makes Andy Ruiz great lol.
When Callum Smith lost (in reality) to John Ryder - the sensible people all said 'OK, Smith isn't that good. Ryder is also better than advertised' It's fair to give Ruiz some credit, but the main thing that fight told us, is that AJ is just not the guy.
Some great guys in history have had bad/embarrassing losses; but overall their resumes are much better than AJ's as far as good wins.
AJ fights everything at home, and he has 2 wins over good fighters in their relative prime - Parker and Whyte. And Whyte is not that good, and Parker went 12 rounds with him and if that fight wasn't at home, who knows how the ref would have let them fight.
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Why are AJ fans so dumb and why do they worship a guy who isn't that good? Like if you back a horse that doesn't have the goods, fine, just pick someone else. Don't double down on a guy who just doesn't have it.
So AJ is much more protected than other top HWs but in spite of that also has multiple bad losses unlike them. He must really suck huh?
He has one bad loss, Usyk was not terrible, at this time. It depends on what else Usyk does at HW.
But yes you said it. He has been extremely protected and even with that has a bad loss and nothing really that impressive. And another disappointing loss/performance.
Any of the other top guys. They don't have any bad losses, and they haven't been nearly as protected as AJ.
So AJ is much more protected than other top HWs but in spite of that also has multiple bad losses unlike them. He must really suck huh?
Okay, but who are you comparing him to exactly?
Any of the other top guys. They don't have any bad losses, and they haven't been nearly as protected as AJ.
I don't care about a guy cherrypicking some other guy that some organization has ranked in the top 10, fighting him at home, and almost always winning a rather unimpressive fight that has some level of minor controversy.
Isn't it clear to you that AJ and co. could only compile a list like that because they had star power, and could carefully select fighters to fight at home, that they knew they could get the result against, since they were at home, if push came to shove?
He took 3 semi risks in his whole career - Wlad, Ruiz 1 and Usyk. 1-2. And none were really crazy risks at all.
Okay, but who are you comparing him to exactly?
And guys like Wilder never even fought Del Boy
Wilder's last 6 fights were Fury 3x, and Ortiz 2x and then Breazeale,
5 of those fights are definitely better than Chisora. You understand that right?
We can argue all day about the quality of the wins, but its just a fact that he was fighting guys that were ranked in the top 10 at a rate that other HWs werent.
I don't care about a guy cherrypicking some other guy that some organization has ranked in the top 10, fighting him at home, and almost always winning a rather unimpressive fight that has some level of minor controversy.
Isn't it clear to you that AJ and co. could only compile a list like that because they had star power, and could carefully select fighters to fight at home, that they knew they could get the result against, since they were at home, if push came to shove?
He took 3 semi risks in his whole career - Wlad, Ruiz 1 and Usyk. 1-2. And none were really crazy risks at all.
Klitschko, Whyte, Takam, Parker, Povetkin
Who else was fighting guys of this calibre? Wilder ran from Povetkin and was never in a million years going to go near Klit
Lol Povetkin did test positive for PEDs, and Wilder was going to fight him in Russia, 2.5 years before AJ fought him. Hard to fault Wilder for that one.
Wlad, Takam and Povetkin were on average almost 39 years old in those fights lol. And again they were all at home.
And Takam and Povetkin? I mean Povetkin was a really good fighter at one point, but Takam was never really exceptional. And again both were pushing 40.
How can anyone really get excited over who AJ faced, especially considering they were all at home? And no win (besides Wlad) was really done in impressive fashion.
Klitschko, Whyte, Takam, Parker, Povetkin
Who else was fighting guys of this calibre? Wilder ran from Povetkin and was never in a million years going to go near Klit
Fucking Del Boy has fought most of those guys.
Lol, that tagline again.
He beat 2 good fighters in their relative primes - 2! And both were at home, and neither guy was that good, and neither win was that impressive.
We can argue all day about the quality of the wins, but its just a fact that he was fighting guys that were ranked in the top 10 at a rate that other HWs werent.
Lol
Because he has a "great" resume and was "ripping through everyone early in his career"
Klitschko, Whyte, Takam, Parker, Povetkin
Who else was fighting guys of this calibre? Wilder ran from Povetkin and was never in a million years going to go near Klit
Typical deluded UK fan
Man, just stop before I put you on ignore.
I am not British, English is not even my language. But it is what it is Joshua beats Wilder badly. Joshua is better boxer than Wilder ever was.
If there are people out there than truly think that, i'm not seeing them. The only people I could envision feeling that way are super casuals in the UK that dont even watch boxing really but know him because hes a household name, and might tune in to his fights only. Kind of like if you went back 20 years and asked random people in the street who the best HW in the world was at that time and most would say Mike Tyson.
Not really, hes looked vulnerable in the majority of his top wins, including that one, but at the end of the day he was consistently facing guys ranked in the top 10 and winning, no other HWs were doing that.
Lol, that tagline again.
He beat 2 good fighters in their relative primes - 2! And both were at home, and neither guy was that good, and neither win was that impressive.
The guy that still is claiming Wilder is #2 is saying Joshua is overrated? :rofl: There's like 5 guys with better wins than Wilder. Used Joshua's name for marketing and idiots ate it up.
? A lot of people would have Wilder number 2 still. Anyone with a brain has him 2 or 3 right now.
What world are you guys living in over there
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Olympic gold medalist. It’s not boxing ability he lacks, its the warrior inside that wilder and fury displayed that he lacks. Also stamina too.
After 8 rounds against Usyk, the fight was a draw, but AJ just got tired after that
that’s the main things he’s missing. he’s not a dog
I think it's premature and silly to write off Joshua after two losses. He underestimated Ruiz and lost to a very good boxer in Usyk. Now if he had lost to Martin, Breazeale or Takam, it would be much easier to say that he's just not that good. But that is not the case.
Well then he would be pretty bad
Because he has a great resume and was ripping through everyone early in his career
Lol
Because he has a "great" resume and was "ripping through everyone early in his career"
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