I'd say a combination of Joshua's upper body strength & clean punching technique, Wilder's right hand & heart & Usyk's footwork could be enough to defeat the Gypsy King.
What say you?
I tend to agree actually, a prime Mike Tyson is a nightmare for anyone including Fury, however Fury wouldn't have been beaten before the fight like lots of Mike's opponents were.
EXACTLY that's why I mentioned that Mike would to literally have an IRON will. He truly was Iron Mike but had a weak will about him. That would be an amazing fantasy fight IMO
So your describing Mike Tyson to beat Tyson Fury. I honestly think it would take a Mike Tyson like fighter to beat him but with a bigger heart. Tyson was notorious for giving up in a sense when he couldn't destroy a fighter but his skillset and size would be what it takes to beat Fury.
I tend to agree actually, a prime Mike Tyson is a nightmare for anyone including Fury, however Fury wouldn't have been beaten before the fight like lots of Mike's opponents were.
No need to build one. There's plenty in that would have beat him. John McDermott beat him ffs. :lol1:
Yeah, lets pretend Fury is the same fighter as than.
To smash Joshua's glass jaw perhaps, but you more than Wilder's right hand to beat Tyson Fury.
That's why i went with Butterbean who can offset Fury with his own love handles that come in higher definition than Fury's
I think there are boxers out there right now, who can beat this version of Tyson Fury. It will only take for that situation to arise, for you to understand.
Fury has been getting banged about now, in most of his recent fights 'He is not hard to solve anymore, and by no means untouchable'.
Fury does not use movement, and his defense right now is completely overrated
He is still ranked number 1, but no by a large distance.
Kronk Fury is not peak Fury, he is a regressed fighter.
Stylistically, Wilder really should of been a easier fight for Fury. But that fight is no longer easy for him, because he is not hard to solve anymore. Fighters can close him down, fighters can land to his body and up top 'Wilder was doing both'.
No idea how Tyson Fury's hardcore fans, think this version of Tyson Fury is him at his best. Peak Tyson Fury is 'The Riddler', but unfortunately that version of Fury did not really have the opportunity to push his abilities to the limits 'Not all too dissimilar to Mike Tyson & Muhammad Ali'.
The Riddler, is Tyson Fury under Peter Fury near the end of their partnership etc around the Martin Rogan fights is when Fury started to evolved into 'The Riddler'. Those fights were the beginnings.
There's no man born from his mother that can beat the Gypsy king.
I'd say a combination of Joshua's upper body strength & clean punching technique, Wilder's right hand & heart & Usyk's footwork could be enough to defeat the Gypsy King.
What say you?
So your describing Mike Tyson to beat Tyson Fury. I honestly think it would take a Mike Tyson like fighter to beat him but with a bigger heart. Tyson was notorious for giving up in a sense when he couldn't destroy a fighter but his skillset and size would be what it takes to beat Fury.
I think there are boxers out there right now, who can beat this version of Tyson Fury. It will only take for that situation to arise, for you to understand.
Fury has been getting banged about now, in most of his recent fights 'He is not hard to solve anymore, and by no means untouchable'.
Fury does not use movement, and his defense right now is completely overrated
He is still ranked number 1, but no by a large distance.
Kronk Fury is not peak Fury, he is a regressed fighter.
Stylistically, Wilder really should of been a easier fight for Fury. But that fight is no longer easy for him, because he is not hard to solve anymore. Fighters can close him down, fighters can land to his body and up top 'Wilder was doing both'.
No idea how Tyson Fury's hardcore fans, think this version of Tyson Fury is him at his best. Peak Tyson Fury is 'The Riddler', but unfortunately that version of Fury did not really have the opportunity to push his abilities to the limits 'Not all too dissimilar to Mike Tyson & Muhammad Ali'.
The Riddler, is Tyson Fury under Peter Fury near the end of their partnership etc around the Martin Rogan fights is when Fury started to evolved into 'The Riddler'. Those fights were the beginnings.
I have a feeling that consistent body work shall do a number on Fury. But heavyweight are rarely good at this. The last one who was investing in the body consistently was probably Holyfield. Maybe if Usyk will fight Fury, that shall be a part of his gameplan.
Any heavyweight who fights Fury on his worst night, perhaps after a period of insufficient training plus private problems, etc.
Basically, the new Buster Douglas.
Or perhaps this man. :cool:
What's the score with Miller? Is he banned for life?
*edit* Nevermind, just read the article.
Any heavyweight who fights Fury on his worst night, perhaps after a period of insufficient training plus private problems, etc.
Basically, the new Buster Douglas.
Or perhaps this man. :cool:
Stylistically, it should be a shorter fighter, but not significantly outsized, who also has explosive punches and significant power and is quick enough to beat him to the punch with overhand right counters and someone who has proper head movement defense to avoid Furys punches.
But then he also needs to be very athletic to get in and out properly without smothering his work and avoid getting tied up on the inside.
Then he needs proper conditioning to do that in a 12 round fight, especially when Fury decides to do his mauling boxing at one point in case he gets beaten to the punch.
You don't need a superhuman. You just need the style that won't suit him. Everyone's got one.
Not a boxer. A really exceptional boxer would make it interesting, but I think his size and awkwardness probably wins out.
Not an out and out puncher. He'll make them look stupid 9 times out of 10.
A good sized Boxer/Puncher who isn't afraid to come forward and pressure is the style to get him. It's why I always thought he'd never face AJ, regardless of who I think would beat more of the other contenders. But AJ's unwillingness to come forward against Usyk has given me some doubts on that fight.
The chin is a myth. He can be hit and he can be hurt. His footwork isn't great (except for his size). He doesn't throw big punches. But he is huge and good at most things.
And then there's his discipline. Probably the greatest threat to him is himself.
Butterbean with Wilder's right hand will do the job
Who asked you? But seeing as you are here...I noticed you didn't mention any of Joshua's attributes like his feather fists and glass jaw.
Funnily enough i just had this conversation with someone i know who just happens to be working on some type of super computer, its gov stuff, and he inputted this question into the new tech and it came out with this
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That looks like the guy who knocked AJ out a few fights ago.