Wilder's best wins were knockouts of 40 year old Ortiz in fights where he was getting out boxed. Wilder is like the rich man's Earnie Shavers.
Wilder was a champ with 10 defenses, but he'll never be considered an ATG. His legacy can only go down from here, if he goes the Roy Jones route of being a dominant fighter to getting knocked out many times.
Of course not.
is he one of the most gripping fighters to watch? Yeah, you just never know if he’s going to land a ridiculous shot.
He’s also been part of a great trilogy in terms of rivalry and pure entertainment, but reality the difference in quality between the two was never that close.
Like him or not, people will look back on him as a very entertaining knockout artist and giving people entertaining nights, but he’s not an all time great fighter.
His power is real though.
Still, people talk about people like Vitali as a great fighter and his resume might be worse than Wilder’s.
He might go down as technically the worst HW world champion in history.
It's literally like watching somebody who can't box but just has a huge right hand. That's pretty much what he is.
He will be up there in discussion of biggest punchers of all time. Hes still limited there because he dont have much of an inside game
But his resume sucks, he like isnt even top 30 all time of heavies. theres just too many other guys out there that did more
i could see wilder becoming a journeyman and finishing with a 30-30 record or something like that.
Dude is rich only a journey man if u need the money lol
Hell no, he got dominated 3 times in the only fights that mattered in his career.
If you can’t give wilder credit, you can’t give fury credit.
there’s no champion without a challenger, wilder is the best challenger.
fury an ATG in my eyes for doing that. So wilder is a ATG too I see only fury is getting up after 4th round.
wilder can fight on and off rack up more wins.
hall of famer...based on what? certainly not boxing resume. i mean its called hall of fame so yeah hes famous for beign a hype job but that doesnt seem like the kind of thing you would reward with accolades, statues, etc...we cant be putting every hype job in the hall cause that will make the real good fighters look bad, eventually they prob wont even show up to the ceremony!
if Sylvester Stallone can get in and Arturo Gatti can get in then I don't see a reason why Deontay Wilder can't get in either..Remember, that he is only the sixth man in boxing's heavyweight history with at least ten title defenses of his WBC title belt. That's an elite class in and of itself.
No, his resume just ain't that good. His performances against them, great, but to be an ATG you need some top dogs on your resume.
I still don't know who is the best name on his resume...
Stiverne ? Who was he?
Ortiz? Who was he again?
Hall of Famer Yes. All-Time Great no.
hall of famer...based on what? certainly not boxing resume. i mean its called hall of fame so yeah hes famous for beign a hype job but that doesnt seem like the kind of thing you would reward with accolades, statues, etc...we cant be putting every hype job in the hall cause that will make the real good fighters look bad, eventually they prob wont even show up to the ceremony!
Yes, it's really just me basically saying I want wilder to fight these people and don't want him to retire without giving me these fights. Wilder resume is pretty much chisoras level of wins, except with less losses. And wilder hasn't fought as many good fighters as chisora has
i could see wilder becoming a journeyman and finishing with a 30-30 record or something like that.
Don't make me laugh. His best win was a washed Luis Ortiz?
I am just glad we no longer have to hear from Deontay's racist fans, atleast I hope so, unfortunately they will keep talking about this third fight for infinity, won't they? I just hope we can move on to the undisputed fight after AJ vs Usyk settle their score in the rematch.
I actually like Wilder despite all the daft excuses and despite the clear losses, and his performance and heart last night were that of a man who gave everything which is all I want to see from a fighter.
Salute to that man.
ATG? Not even remotely close. Can't even see what grounds you could use to attempt to make a case. :thinking:
And fury? For beating Wladimir who had aged over night the fight prior against bryant jennings
And the wlad win was hardly in impressive fashion
Then fought wilder absolutely huge punches but again we already seen him schooled twice by ortiz just has that one lucky big right hand ..it's hardly ali beating foreman wilder started boxing late and you can see it in his fights
look at the first round of wilder fury 3 ..he stuck to his game plan for 1 round then reverted to his kid fighting in playground style
you could say that about any heavyweight though so hes basically starting at zero.
Yes, it's really just me basically saying I want wilder to fight these people and don't want him to retire without giving me these fights. Wilder resume is pretty much chisoras level of wins, except with less losses. And wilder hasn't fought as many good fighters as chisora has
whyte's resume is so much better than wilders. its so damn hilarious how hyped up this guy is. is anyone calling whyte an all time great? no because they have self respect and dignity. hes beaten parker who is better than anyone wilder has beaten. he has beaten rivas whose best win is jennings(same as ortiz lol) hes beaten helenius, chisora, povetkin. i mean its so silly how people hype wilder up and they continue to do it. its like every time he fails they just move the goalposts. paulie malignaggi pillow punching fury stops wilder OH MAH GOD WILDER HAS SUCH TOUGHNESS...what?