AJ fans are absolutely pathetic

I know more about boxing than you would ever know .....I’ve followed boxing for over 38 years and grew up with the 80’s and competed all through that decade....technical ability is what it all comes down to which there’s on why usyk beat Joshua , it’s the reason why Wilfred Benitez was so good in defence or floyd mayweather and as I said when the more technical fighter comes up against a fighter with one hand he beats him 9-10 times. so please don’t confuse me with the newbies in this site....boxing I ate and breathed it and I’ll say with utter conviction Joshua beats wilder almost every time So Ruiz is 1-1 with AJ but AJ would beat Wilder almost every time?

Lol...none of that really matters at HW, as far as the 'technical' fighter. You guys sound very new to boxing. AJ-Wilder would be very slow paced. AJ would be scared to death and would probably get caught. I know more about boxing than you would ever know .....I’ve followed boxing for over 38 years and grew up with the 80’s and competed all through that decade....technical ability is what it all comes down to which there’s on why usyk beat Joshua , it’s the reason why Wilfred Benitez was so good in defence or floyd mayweather and as I said when the more technical fighter comes up against a fighter with one hand he beats him 9-10 times. so please don’t confuse me with the newbies in this site....boxing I ate and breathed it and I’ll say with utter conviction Joshua beats wilder almost every time

not at all....Joshua knows wilder cannot fight going backwards and loses all form so would use his size and end him .....8 out of 10 the better technical fighter wins and Joshua is leaps ahead of wilder in every apartment besides right hand. Lol...none of that really matters at HW, as far as the 'technical' fighter. You guys sound very new to boxing. AJ-Wilder would be very slow paced. AJ would be scared to death and would probably get caught.

It would be two glass cannons facing off and would come down to who hurt the other first. Both of them react like **** and panic when they get caught, one is quicker and rangier, the other is more skilled. One throws a long range right hand that has the most power but is very telegraphed and predictable, the other throws heavy left hooks and uppercuts that arent as powerful but are crisper and less wild, and throws more combos. I dont believe Wilder would have the same success as AJ against a wide range of top 10ish level opponents, because he is just too one dimensional on top of being vulnerable. Joshua is vulnerable as well and would probably lose to a few other current HWs, but the difference is hes a glass cannon that can actually box a bit. Every time Wilder fails to land the Hail Mary at elite level hes going to lose imo. Well I don't think you realize just how much glass Joshua is made of - and how bad it is to be made of glass at HW, and just how deadly Wilder's right hand is, and the odds of him landing such a right hand against nearly anyone - and how important that power is at HW. Wilder is much tougher than AJ, don't even start that lol. He couldn't quite put out a 275 pound 6'9 man with a ton of heart, intelligence and toughness. Everyone else would likely go down over 12 rounds, and not get back up. No clue what type of fighter he will be after those 2 beatings though, especially the last one.

I meant worst matchup relative to opponent level - they could face the same crew of guys and have similar W/L records, but h2h Wilder is a heavy favorite in my eyes. Fury is just 2 levels above everyone else right now I think. Wilder/AJ would be an extremely slow paced fight, with both guys cautious. AJ would be scared to throw imo, and maybe 1 or 2 out of 10 he sees an opening and hits Wilder with something and is able to finish him. Odds are, Wilder picks a good shot and lands it, and I don't even think it has to be a great shot. Just a solid shot, AJ will panic, and Wilder will finish him off. I don't see most of those fights going any other way. not at all....Joshua knows wilder cannot fight going backwards and loses all form so would use his size and end him .....8 out of 10 the better technical fighter wins and Joshua is leaps ahead of wilder in every apartment besides right hand.

Because Wilder fans are any better? Might as well throw in Saul fans, Pac fans, PBF fans too.

I meant worst matchup relative to opponent level - they could face the same crew of guys and have similar W/L records, but h2h Wilder is a heavy favorite in my eyes. Fury is just 2 levels above everyone else right now I think. Wilder/AJ would be an extremely slow paced fight, with both guys cautious. AJ would be scared to throw imo, and maybe 1 or 2 out of 10 he sees an opening and hits Wilder with something and is able to finish him. Odds are, Wilder picks a good shot and lands it, and I don't even think it has to be a great shot. Just a solid shot, AJ will panic, and Wilder will finish him off. I don't see most of those fights going any other way. It would be two glass cannons facing off and would come down to who hurt the other first. Both of them react like shit and panic when they get caught, one is quicker and rangier, the other is more skilled. One throws a long range right hand that has the most power but is very telegraphed and predictable, the other throws heavy left hooks and uppercuts that arent as powerful but are crisper and less wild, and throws more combos. I dont believe Wilder would have the same success as AJ against a wide range of top 10ish level opponents, because he is just too one dimensional on top of being vulnerable. Joshua is vulnerable as well and would probably lose to a few other current HWs, but the difference is hes a glass cannon that can actually box a bit. Every time Wilder fails to land the Hail Mary at elite level hes going to lose imo.

Not really, Fury is the worst match up for Joshua. Anyone that can punch, has durability and mobility is a bad match up for Joshua. Every time when you guys imagine this fight taking place the focus is always on AJs durability and Wilders punching power. For some reason it gets conveniently forgotten that Wilder is extremely hittable and a glass cannon himself, and that in an AJ fight they would BOTH be facing their hardest hitting opponent ever. I meant worst matchup relative to opponent level - they could face the same crew of guys and have similar W/L records, but h2h Wilder is a heavy favorite in my eyes. Fury is just 2 levels above everyone else right now I think. Wilder/AJ would be an extremely slow paced fight, with both guys cautious. AJ would be scared to throw imo, and maybe 1 or 2 out of 10 he sees an opening and hits Wilder with something and is able to finish him. Odds are, Wilder picks a good shot and lands it, and I don't even think it has to be a great shot. Just a solid shot, AJ will panic, and Wilder will finish him off. I don't see most of those fights going any other way.

They are overall a similar level, but Wilder is the worst matchup for AJ style wise. It's very obvious. Not really, Fury is the worst match up for Joshua. Anyone that can punch, has durability and mobility is a bad match up for Joshua. Every time when you guys imagine this fight taking place the focus is always on AJs durability and Wilders punching power. For some reason it gets conveniently forgotten that Wilder is extremely hittable and a glass cannon himself, and that in an AJ fight they would BOTH be facing their hardest hitting opponent ever.

wilder is a bum and was a knockout waiting to happen...no skill , no jab , no left , no balance , no stamina and was getting beat by almost any fighter he made a defence against. duhaupas , ortiz , spilka even ****ing denzil Washington was out boxing him ffs lol Turned down his biggest ever payday with Joshua to fight fury which he admitted this year. Knocked the **** out several times by Wladimir klitchcko in sparring. Joshua would devour wilder and usyk would tie him up in knots. Your like DBN and Blue Bloood Sports absolutely deluded. I'm not even a Wilder fan. People always accuse me of being a huge GGG fan. In truth I just call it like I see it. And Wilder would KO AJ almost every time they fight. AJ is tailormade for him. They could face 10 common opponents and have a similar enough record - but h2h, it's always Wilder

Wilder hasnt fought Ruiz in the first place. Its easy to fight a bunch of nobodies, get battered by Fury, and then go "oh well I only lost to Fury" Well at least Wilder doesn't lose to nobodies like Ruiz lol

Very true. The only light in the tunnel is the fact that AJ and Hearn seem to have realized since the Ruiz I loss, they can't pander to these morons. I think, since that loss, AJ has slowly but surely been changing his persona. Maybe not even changing persona, but just being more real, showing his true self. And his true self is far removed from the beta-male cucks who seem to love hero-worshipping him! AJ admitting that he isn't the best, accepting defeat, claiming to still be learning the game at 32 is at odds with the statements muppets like Robbie Barrett make, about AJ being the best in the division and ATG, etc. AJ himself openly acknowledges that this isn't the case. I think that is why the fanbase is so bitter right now, they are in denial of reality. Admitting to yourself you've been conned, is always one of the hardest things to do!

It was a very good fight, arguably better than AJ/Wlad. Neither of those fights should be in the running for greatest HW fight ever though. The overhyping of this fight is pretty weird, I think part of it is an attempt to save face for Wilder. There is always overhyping of fights/fighters, good and bad, right after fights. It's always frustrating, I agree on that

Lmao at the “p4p sauna champion” in your sig. :lol1: That was such a great story lol

Wilder has fought two top HWs ever. One he beat (with difficulty), one he was destroyed by. How do you know that he wouldnt get wrecked by several other HWs too? personally I think if he'd have faced the guys AJ has he'd have 4-5 losses on his record now. Usyk would beat him too, Wlad would have KO'd him, and between Whyte, Parker, Povetkin and Ruiz he probably picks up at least one loss. You're essentially trying to give him credit for the fact that he was simply present in the ring with the guy you perceive to be no1, even though he was completely dominated. You're inflating AJ's wins, and diminishing Wilder's. End of story. Usyk and Wlad may have beaten Wilder. None of those other guys would have been given more than a small chance. I think AJ would have the 2+ losses to Fury, plus I don't know if he beats Ortiz twice. Besides, comparing their resumes is not the point. They are overall a similar level, but Wilder is the worst matchup for AJ style wise. It's very obvious.

Usyk is probably too small, but does have a chance. I could see him darting in and out for 12 rounds and winning a decision. Fury is probably too smart for him though. Wilder is on another level to AJ though. I don't want anyone to act like AJ is better than him or even on his level. Wilder KO's AJ 9 times out of 10. wilder is a bum and was a knockout waiting to happen...no skill , no jab , no left , no balance , no stamina and was getting beat by almost any fighter he made a defence against. duhaupas , ortiz , spilka even fucking denzil Washington was out boxing him ffs lol Turned down his biggest ever payday with Joshua to fight fury which he admitted this year. Knocked the fuck out several times by Wladimir klitchcko in sparring. Joshua would devour wilder and usyk would tie him up in knots. Your like DBN and Blue Bloood Sports absolutely deluded.

Before seen fury new strength i gave aj the edge yet aj always been chinny fury alot stronger or more sound atleast with power shots add in reach size box ability fury beats aj now though aj still has best shot cause can box yet carry power n knows how to set up his shots

But I think there’s nothing really like a big Vegas heavyweight fight AJ sells out UK stadiums to casuals, which is fine, but he made one appearance in USA and got flattened. His fights don’t really move the needle outside of the UK either. I think there’s always something more special about two top heavyweights fighting in Vegas in a great fight that crosses over into popular culture across the world. It was the biggest thing happening in the world at that time. Fury and Wilder are bigger in the US, but Joshua is bigger practically everywhere else. Boxing is very fragmented these days, the US boxing scene is not on anywhere near the same scale it used to be from a commercial and international following perspective, if anything the UFC has more of a following internationally now than any particular domestic boxing scene. Although I do agree that Fury/Wilder was probably bigger than any AJ fights, but a fight between AJ/Fury would be much bigger still even if it took place in the UK.

I'd probably take this over AJ/Wlad, but its been a while since ive watched the latter. To play devils advocate though, AJ/Wlad had the stadium atmosphere, a similar amount of volume, was much more evenly contested and both guys were in shape. But I think there’s nothing really like a big Vegas heavyweight fight AJ sells out UK stadiums to casuals, which is fine, but he made one appearance in USA and got flattened. His fights don’t really move the needle outside of the UK either. I think there’s always something more special about two top heavyweights fighting in Vegas in a great fight that crosses over into popular culture across the world. It was the biggest thing happening in the world at that time.

It was much better than AJ v Wlad. Almost nothing happened for plenty of rounds between the early knockdowns and the finish in AJ v Wlad. I'd probably take this over AJ/Wlad, but its been a while since ive watched the latter. To play devils advocate though, AJ/Wlad had the stadium atmosphere, a similar amount of volume, was much more evenly contested and both guys were in shape.