Public service announcement that possibly you should never listen to a word Chris Mannix and Sergio Mora have to say again

The problem here in Bold is that those were political decisions that don't cope with what happened. This fights were won by the Euros. First of all, both GGG and Kovalev performed like sh1t. Even if they technically won more rounds, they weren't themselves. These were two power punching destroyers, boxer punchers, at higher weights as well. GGG was fighting a smaller man, Canelo, who had already been hurt by Liam Smith and Cotto's brother at 154 lbs. In fact in two fights at 160 GGG did not hurt Canelo as badly as either of them hurt him. In both fights, GGG was fighting like Paulie Malignaggi, only slower and less explosive. His punches barely moved Canelo until the late rounds. He looked like was either punching underwater, or pulling his punches. Same with Kovalev vs Ward. Ward was a chinny 168 pounder. Kovalev's jab was breaking ribs of contenders at 175 so why wasn't his right hand immediately knocking out Ward who came up from 168? I get Ward is better, pound for pound, than 175 contenders, but the fight isn't fought "pound for pound" it's fought at 175. Kovalev was the most dangerous man at 175. Other than a flash knockdown where Kovalev hit Ward with the padding inside his fingers instead of his fist for some reason, Kovalev was pitty patting vs Ward, not hitting him with his explosive punches. And then we saw it again vs Canelo, who is even smaller than Ward. At some point, you have to get really suspicious. As for the decisions, you are making my point for me. Whether the fights are scripted themselves, or just the reffing and judging, the establishment is still playing a bigger role in the outcome of the fights than the fighters. Who cares whether the outcome is a robbery or not? I mean, do you get your bet refunded just because you can argue it's a robbery? No, you don't. Case closed.

They are the new Cubans and that's why they will never take over. They don't sell enough pay-per-views. Everyone is celebrating the Usyk win like fools. He will have to beat AJ again, and also beat Fury and Wilder each 2 times, without losing once, before he takes over anything. It's very very very unlikely to happen. I'll be surprised if he wins the rematch. Every time an eastern euro has a big fight vs a Western star, they lose, even to opponents they have no business losing to. Klitschko vs Joshua Klitschko vs Fury Loma vs Teofimo Kovalev vs Ward Kovalev vs Ward II Canelo vs GGG Canelo vs GGG II Charlo vs Dereyvanchenko All losses Loma vs Tank... already as good as a loss because the fight was not made in his prime. If Loma was the American and Tank the Ukrainian, that fight would have happened years ago and you can guess who would have "won." Loma vs Mikey Garcia, same thing. Roy Jones Jr vs Mikelchevski, same thing. James Toney vs what's his name... loss. At cruiserewight. To a middleweight Toney. Even Huck lost to Steve Cunningham. So Usyk vs Joshua is looking like the one exception, but guess what? There is a rematch clause. Don't count your chickens before they hatch. Of course there is a rematch clause. And even if there wasn't, there are two more western stars in the division, Wilder and Fury, who have already gotten ten times the promotion that Usyk has. When is the last time the #1 eastern euro fighter beat the #1 American fighter? I can't even remember the last time it's happened, if it ever has at all, let alone kept winning afterwards and kept the belts away from them. The problem here in Bold is that those were political decisions that don't cope with what happened. This fights were won by the Euros.

Usyk’s resume isn’t that good. Crusierweight is trash and Joshua is too. Why are u riding on the verge of stupidity?

Heck, even before Lomachenko lost to one American he had no business losing to, Teofimo Lopez, he could not keep his WBC belt away from Devin Haney, another American he has no business losing a belt to. It took him like five years to get that WBC belt. Loma was the best fighter at 126, but never got the WBC. He was the best fighter at 130, and never got the WBC. Then he finally gets it at 135, and loses it over email right away to one American, before taking what IMO looked like a dive vs another American right afterwards. If Loma can't "take over" jack sh1t, then don't expect any of the others to, because he might still be the best of all of them. But it's close because Usyk, GGG, and Kovalev were all fantastic too, and look what happened with them. GGG stuck in one division his entire career, and couldn't even unify it or beat the western name fighter from 154 coming up. Kovalev lost every meaningful matchup his entire career, except for the one he never even made (vs Stevenson). So, you get the point. Boxing is a business. It doesn't matter which fighter is the best. Dmitry Bivol also actually has an argument to be the best of all of them but as soon as it became clear he was not a big ticket seller, he went from a one punch knockout artist against top 10 guys to landing clean 5 punch combos to the chin of British level Craig Richards and not being able to hurt him at all. Do the math...

The fact that Usyk has won all of these fights on the road just makes it not even close.

Mannix reminds me of Jason Bateman in Dodgeball

They SUK!!! I've seen two drunks sht faced make more sense then those two clowns. Paulie Mag. Is real. Before the AJ /Usykk fight he was talking about hoe these Eastern euros taking over. Said Boxing #1 sport over there and expect a bunch more talented ones to take over. And then Usyk toyed with AJ. Don't know why everyone got so upset him telling the truth. They the new Cubans but not waiting around forever like them to go pro. They are the new Cubans and that's why they will never take over. They don't sell enough pay-per-views. Everyone is celebrating the Usyk win like fools. He will have to beat AJ again, and also beat Fury and Wilder each 2 times, without losing once, before he takes over anything. It's very very very unlikely to happen. I'll be surprised if he wins the rematch. Every time an eastern euro has a big fight vs a Western star, they lose, even to opponents they have no business losing to. Klitschko vs Joshua Klitschko vs Fury Loma vs Teofimo Kovalev vs Ward Kovalev vs Ward II Canelo vs GGG Canelo vs GGG II Charlo vs Dereyvanchenko All losses Loma vs Tank... already as good as a loss because the fight was not made in his prime. If Loma was the American and Tank the Ukrainian, that fight would have happened years ago and you can guess who would have "won." Loma vs Mikey Garcia, same thing. Roy Jones Jr vs Mikelchevski, same thing. James Toney vs what's his name... loss. At cruiserewight. To a middleweight Toney. Even Huck lost to Steve Cunningham. So Usyk vs Joshua is looking like the one exception, but guess what? There is a rematch clause. Don't count your chickens before they hatch. Of course there is a rematch clause. And even if there wasn't, there are two more western stars in the division, Wilder and Fury, who have already gotten ten times the promotion that Usyk has. When is the last time the #1 eastern euro fighter beat the #1 American fighter? I can't even remember the last time it's happened, if it ever has at all, let alone kept winning afterwards and kept the belts away from them.

Also I think Mauricio Herrera beat Danny Garcia more convincingly than Errol Spence. Despite a size disadvantage at 140. Is Herrera a pound for pound star also? Spence struggled much more vs a damaged Kell Brook than GGG did vs a healthy Kell Brook. Spence is naturally a similar size to GGG, so... Spence almost lost to Shawn Porter who a healthy prime Kell Brook beat with ease. Keith Thurman beat Shawn Porter as well and an old small Pacquiao beat Thurman. If Spence were a P4P top 10 fighter he wouldn't be having close fights, if you believe they're legit fights, with smaller B-level opponents at the absolute minimum weight that Spence can make. But you are comparing him to someone who dominated the 200 lbs weight class and then dominated the guy tied for the #1 spot at 240 lbs. I'm not trying to make you feel bad about your guy. Personally, I believe it's all bs anyway. For whatever reason maybe it was best for business that Spence struggle vs Porter that night, but then some other night he will look like a million bucks. We will probably never know who is actually better at real boxing, Usyk, Spence, or any of these guys. My point is just that based on the "wins" of each fighter, there is no comparison in resume. And if you want to discredit Usyk's cruiserweight opponents, you can do the same at 147, maybe easier. At least Usyk or the guys he beat cleaned out all the top guys in the weight class, including the longtime reigning guys like Huck and Lebedev. Lebedev was a really fast skilled durable explosive boxer puncher in that division. Gassiev beat him, Usyk dominated Gassiev. Huck was a longtime star of that division, arguably beat prime Povetkin at heavyweight, and was the longreigning king of the division along with Lebedev until Glowacki knocked him out. Usyk dominated Glowacki in his home country, then dominated and knocked out Huck in Germany afterwards too. David Haye was another top cruiserweight of the era. Bellew stopped him twice, Usyk stopped Bellew. Yeah I know Haye had the knee injury etc, so there is an asterisk, but that's the point, Usyk's resume doesn't depend on one asterisk win like most guys in the sport now. He cleaned out everything. The top guys with knee injuries? He beat them. The top guys without knee injuries? He beat them. The top guys in their primes? He beat them. The top guys past their primes? He beat them. So Im just making that point. But I definitely believe it's all BS and that's why I still expect Joshua to win the rematch, and Wilder to beat Fury. But I honestly have no idea. There is no consistency to any of it except maybe $$$$$.

Usyk’s resume isn’t that good. Crusierweight is trash and Joshua is too. And what about welterweight? Welterweight had only two elite fighters after Margarito moved up, Pacquiao and Floyd, and Spence fought neither in their primes. Since then it's a bunch of B-level guys like Tim Bradley, Shawn Porter, Keith Thurman who if you believe boxing is real and not scripted lost to a smaller and old Pacquiao, Danny Garcia who if you believe it's not scripted broke Matthysse's eye with a forearm or elbow, still barely beat him, and then ducked the rematch. At 140. With a size advantage. I agree cruiserweight is historically trash, but if you think pro Boxing is real and not scripted then he cleaned out the best era of cruiserweight full of great boxer punchers. And now he beat up the guy who knocked out Klitschko and the #1 PBC heavyweight Charles Martin.

They both said today that Errol Spence's resume is as good or better than Oleksandr Usyk's. Sergio Mora said Terence Crawford also... Sergio has become a little better, and most of the time I think he's okay, but Mannix, that guy is an absolute tool. I can't stand him. A DAZN shill who is ignorant AF.

Usyk’s resume isn’t that good. Crusierweight is trash and Joshua is too. Glowacki, Mchunu, Hunter, Huck, Briedis, Gassiev, and Bellew all consecutively, on the road, and you got complaints?

Usyk’s resume isn’t that good. Crusierweight is trash and Joshua is too. The Cruiserweight division Usyk cleaned out was pretty damn good. I like Spence, but he's not even close to having a better CV .....yet

Yep. They're both frustratingly horrible. Mannix is probably the worst, but Sergio ain't far behind and considering he was a fighter, it's crazy how stupid he is.