AJ is the biggest hype job of this generation and it isn't close

So Canelo has only taken fights he knew he can win? I mean clearly, at this point, you are obviously trolling. You are an awful poster with terrible logic. This is not even worth discussing any further. But i’ll try one more time. AJ fought Ruiz in the US and Saudi Arabia. Canelo is from Mexico, and he is not even Mexican-American either. He fights on the road literally every fight. He fought Mayweather in Mayweather’s hometown. He fought Trout in his home state. Fought Jacobs in his home country. The last time Canelo fought a Ring top 5 fighter in his home country of Mexico was vs Ryan Rhodes. Canelo Alvarez fighting Americans in the United States, is literally him fighting away from home. ”But Canelo and AJ have definitely been way more selective with their opponents than Loma.” I am not sure how you can say that with a straight face. Please record yourself on camera, saying your post out loud and post it here. This way I know you are real and I am not in some nightmare with a troll. Please, thanks. “COMPLETELY on Canelo's own terms, often times at a serious weight or timing advantage for Canelo.” Please list all of the championship fights and fights vs top 10 ranked opponents where the opponent fought Canelo with a supposed disadvantage that was created by Canelo. I am eager to read how you can stretch this. ”Canelo superfan” I praise Canelo, AJ and Lomachenko equally. Those are three of my favorite active fighters. Along with Pacquiao, Beterbiev, Wilder, Fury, Ortiz Jr, Josh Taylor. I do not have a little list like you of good fighters who I hate. Only fighters I currently would not praise at all are Terence Crawford and Devin Haney. And that is because they are “champions” with piss poor resumes, and THEY, really don’t challenge themselves vs the best. Haney and Crawford are what I would consider taking on non-challenging fights for their level. ? Canelo is the house fighter in Vegas. Pretending otherwise is ridiculous. He is not losing in Vegas. Pretending otherwise is ridiculous. I don't hate any fighters. I don't agree with the hype that some fighters get. And I say why I feel that way. Canelo is a great fighter right now. He still has been using his A-side advantage for virtually all of his fights. This is not some secret, it's common knowledge. He's probably roided to hell right now too but I'm sure a lot of guys are so who cares really. Now it is another question though when he starts breaking people's faces, but he's the cash cow, people will look the other way on that if it's happening, which it almost certainly is. But again he is fighting great. I have no hate for him, I like him a lot actually. I take more issue with his ped use personally than the A-side moves he has pulled. Anyone in his position would have done the same on the latter.

:lol1: Redeemer's a special poster. It'll be hard in his career to top Wlad. I'm a Wilder fan so for me that was his most impressive, but, impact on the sport wise I don't think anyone has a chance, including Tyson, to do that again or something like it. All he can do now is undisputed tbf. Good resume and undisputed, dude's got a strong legacy. The Wlad win truly came out of nowhere

You've got to be kidding me. It's about taking fights that you don't know you can win, and that you don't have the judges in your back pocket for. Loma has gone on the road and fought, and taken on tough fights at 135 as he moved up in weight. AJ and Canelo have fought in their own backyards (Canelo's backyard being Vegas in that scenario) where they can pick the best name available, have the judges on standby if needed, and can even use the terms of the fight to bully their opponents. I know you're a Canelosuperfan, and he is fighting great, but we can't ignore his very selective choices in his career - he takes on a good name, COMPLETELY on Canelo's own terms, often times at a serious weight or timing advantage for Canelo. Those are not real tests. Super A side fighters do not take real tests. This is just how it goes, it's logic 101. When you have the leverage, can get away with doing it, and have much to gain/lose by winning/losing, you will stack the deck in your favor. Acting like Canelo or AJ fights have been at face value is idiocy. I'm not even a Loma fan but he certainly has truly tested himself in the truest sense of the word, way moreso than those two guys. You can try and spin it however you want but it's obvious. It's pathetic to act otherwise. All 3 guys are good fighters, I'm not picking a winner among the 3 of them in this scenario. But Canelo and AJ have definitely been way more selective with their opponents than Loma. When has Canelo or AJ ever fought on the road? Fighting at home means you get every decision in your favor - ask Canelo about that. It means you get the bell rung 6 seconds early when you're about to get KOed - ask AJ about that. So Canelo has only taken fights he knew he can win? I mean clearly, at this point, you are obviously trolling. You are an awful poster with terrible logic. This is not even worth discussing any further. But i’ll try one more time. AJ fought Ruiz in the US and Saudi Arabia. Canelo is from Mexico, and he is not even Mexican-American either. He fights on the road literally every fight. He fought Mayweather in Mayweather’s hometown. He fought Trout in his home state. Fought Jacobs in his home country. The last time Canelo fought a Ring top 5 fighter in his home country of Mexico was vs Ryan Rhodes. Canelo Alvarez fighting Americans in the United States, is literally him fighting away from home. ”But Canelo and AJ have definitely been way more selective with their opponents than Loma.” I am not sure how you can say that with a straight face. Please record yourself on camera, saying your post out loud and post it here. This way I know you are real and I am not in some nightmare with a troll. Please, thanks. “COMPLETELY on Canelo's own terms, often times at a serious weight or timing advantage for Canelo.” Please list all of the championship fights and fights vs top 10 ranked opponents where the opponent fought Canelo with a supposed disadvantage that was created by Canelo. I am eager to read how you can stretch this. ”Canelo superfan” I praise Canelo, AJ and Lomachenko equally. Those are three of my favorite active fighters. Along with Pacquiao, Beterbiev, Wilder, Fury, Ortiz Jr, Josh Taylor. I do not have a little list like you of good fighters who I hate. Only fighters I currently would not praise at all are Terence Crawford and Devin Haney. And that is because they are “champions” with piss poor resumes, and THEY, really don’t challenge themselves vs the best. Haney and Crawford are what I would consider taking on non-challenging fights for their level.

Most wilder fans only were excited for the Knock outs nobody said he was this ATG he just has ATG power, Fury is the real deal for a big man with his skill set, i dont think they are overrated by their fans like AJ was by his fans, they were really on some ATG talk when it came to AJ. Yeah, like I mentioned originally, I think all three are overrated by their fanbases But Joshua has definitely got the better CV They can all get in the bin though. This era is trash

I had no dog at all in the Loma/Teo fight. It played out more or less as I thought. Loma cautious early, and then coming on late. I didn't think it would take him 6 rounds to get going, but who cares. Better man won on the night, that's all I care about when I watch fights. That's why the 2 Canelo-GGG fights are a shame. Not because I care whether some 1/4 Asian, 3/4 Russian Kazakh gets a win. I have more in common with Canelo than I do GGG. The shame of those 2 fights are that Canelo had no business getting to 6 rounds in either one of them. Anyone arguing he did has really low standards for a fighter, and/or dksab. GGG haters and Canelo fanboys can revel in that 'victory' but they don't realize how pathetic they look, acting like that was a legit win lol. How low are your standards to act like Canelo could get 6 rounds in that fight, it's pathetic honestly Oh it's over two sentences, I'm not reading that :lol1:

Brits love their fighters but constantly overrate them. pretty much this sums it up, great fans but sheesh it gets too crazy and becomes worship lol

Hey man, if you believe Fury and Wilder have the better resumes, then cool. Like I said, all three are overhyped to Hell. Was just pointing out AJ has fought more diverse and varied opposition I could care less about the HW division at the moment except for my guy Usyk!!! War Usyk!!! Most wilder fans only were excited for the Knock outs nobody said he was this ATG he just has ATG power, Fury is the real deal for a big man with his skill set, i dont think they are overrated by their fans like AJ was by his fans, they were really on some ATG talk when it came to AJ.

13 pages discussing whether AJ is just a hypejob? Surely everyone realises that hypejobs don't unify belts, become two time Champions, and beat voluntaries and mandatories over a decent Heavyweight reign. If you thought he was the best ever then you probably overrated him. You could argue his commercial value is higher than his ability - that's just good business. But he's certainly no hypejob. He's been a genuine champion. ​​​​​ In an era where there are like 6 belts, being a multi-time champion could actually be a point for someone being a hypejob, not against it. You lose your belt, then find a way to steal one etc. I say that if he fought all of his fights so far in a neutral venue/judges/fans/refs, he would definitely have more than the 2 losses he has now. That's one way I would view whether someone is a hype job or not. He has stepped out of his comfort zone roughly 1 time, and got embarrassed sadly. It he did that against the other 10 solid fighters on his resume, there are definitely a few more Ls coming.

Nice sig, that **** is hilarious :lol1: I love how he is so sure that AJ would be Fury's best win too - as if KOing Wilder on the road, and upsetting Wlad on the road out of nowhere, can't possibly compare to beating AJ, who just got embarrassed by Ruiz. Insane thinking by some of these fans.

Don't bother Kev, if you can't sum everything up in two sentences it's not worth reading :rolleyes: Poor guy hasn't recovered from the night Golovkin lost to Canelo and Teofimo easily beating Loma probably still gives him nightmares I had no dog at all in the Loma/Teo fight. It played out more or less as I thought. Loma cautious early, and then coming on late. I didn't think it would take him 6 rounds to get going, but who cares. Better man won on the night, that's all I care about when I watch fights. That's why the 2 Canelo-GGG fights are a shame. Not because I care whether some 1/4 Asian, 3/4 Russian Kazakh gets a win. I have more in common with Canelo than I do GGG. The shame of those 2 fights are that Canelo had no business getting to 6 rounds in either one of them. Anyone arguing he did has really low standards for a fighter, and/or dksab. GGG haters and Canelo fanboys can revel in that 'victory' but they don't realize how pathetic they look, acting like that was a legit win lol. How low are your standards to act like Canelo could get 6 rounds in that fight, it's pathetic honestly

You are really looking like you don't know what you are talking about and are just interested in trolling. I am not sure how you can say Lomachenko challenged himself but Canelo and AJ have not. That is just ridiculous and extremely biased to the point that it looks like you are trolling. Canelo has fought: Mayweather GGG 2x Cotto Jacobs Lara Trout Kovalev Callum Smith BJS Rhodes Miguel Vazquez Kirkland Angulo AJ has fought: W. Klitschko Whyte Usyk Parker Pulev Martin Povetkin Ruiz 2x Takam Breazeale Lomachenko has fought: Salido T. Lopez Rigondeaux Russell Jr Pedraza Linares Walters Campbell Sosa Nakatani R. Martinez Crolla I am sorry, but how exactly does Lomachenko's resume of tough fighters he has fought, so much better than Canelo's and AJ's? Sounds like bias to me. Please tell us what risks Lomachenko took that Canelo has not taken? Elaborate. Is Russell Jr better than Lara? is Salido better than GGG? Is Pedraza better than Jacobs? Is Rigondeaux better than Mayweather? IS Walters better than Kovalev? Who are Nakatani, Sosa, Crolla, Martinez better than on the list I made for Canelo? In order to match head to head with Lomachenko's resume, I would need to add fighters like Mosley, Cintron, Matt Hatton, Baldomir, Ndou, Khan, L. Smith, Chavez Jr, Josesito Lopez, Alfonso Gomez. Basically the lower tier fighters Canelo has fought. That's how you can match them head to some with Lomachenko's bottom tier, top opponents. You absolutely can't look at their resume and say Lomachenko took more risks unless you are extremely high. The caliber of some of the fighters Lomachenko fought, Canelo was fighting before he could legally drink alcohol. Hell, the better comparison is actually Lomachenko to AJ's resume. Both fought a bunch of top/solid fighters, both have 2 upset losses to fighters that most fans would agree they should have beaten. Speaking about reality, I think you should consider coming back to it. You've got to be kidding me. It's about taking fights that you don't know you can win, and that you don't have the judges in your back pocket for. Loma has gone on the road and fought, and taken on tough fights at 135 as he moved up in weight. AJ and Canelo have fought in their own backyards (Canelo's backyard being Vegas in that scenario) where they can pick the best name available, have the judges on standby if needed, and can even use the terms of the fight to bully their opponents. I know you're a Canelosuperfan, and he is fighting great, but we can't ignore his very selective choices in his career - he takes on a good name, COMPLETELY on Canelo's own terms, often times at a serious weight or timing advantage for Canelo. Those are not real tests. Super A side fighters do not take real tests. This is just how it goes, it's logic 101. When you have the leverage, can get away with doing it, and have much to gain/lose by winning/losing, you will stack the deck in your favor. Acting like Canelo or AJ fights have been at face value is idiocy. I'm not even a Loma fan but he certainly has truly tested himself in the truest sense of the word, way moreso than those two guys. You can try and spin it however you want but it's obvious. It's pathetic to act otherwise. All 3 guys are good fighters, I'm not picking a winner among the 3 of them in this scenario. But Canelo and AJ have definitely been way more selective with their opponents than Loma. When has Canelo or AJ ever fought on the road? Fighting at home means you get every decision in your favor - ask Canelo about that. It means you get the bell rung 6 seconds early when you're about to get KOed - ask AJ about that.

13 pages discussing whether AJ is just a hypejob? Surely everyone realises that hypejobs don't unify belts, become two time Champions, and beat voluntaries and mandatories over a decent Heavyweight reign. If you thought he was the best ever then you probably overrated him. You could argue his commercial value is higher than his ability - that's just good business. But he's certainly no hypejob. He's been a genuine champion. ​​​​​

You are really looking like you don't know what you are talking about and are just interested in trolling. I am not sure how you can say Lomachenko challenged himself but Canelo and AJ have not. That is just ridiculous and extremely biased to the point that it looks like you are trolling. Canelo has fought: Mayweather GGG 2x Cotto Jacobs Lara Trout Kovalev Callum Smith BJS Rhodes Miguel Vazquez Kirkland Angulo AJ has fought: W. Klitschko Whyte Usyk Parker Pulev Martin Povetkin Ruiz 2x Takam Breazeale Lomachenko has fought: Salido T. Lopez Rigondeaux Russell Jr Pedraza Linares Walters Campbell Sosa Nakatani R. Martinez Crolla I am sorry, but how exactly does Lomachenko's resume of tough fighters he has fought, so much better than Canelo's and AJ's? Sounds like bias to me. Please tell us what risks Lomachenko took that Canelo has not taken? Elaborate. Is Russell Jr better than Lara? is Salido better than GGG? Is Pedraza better than Jacobs? Is Rigondeaux better than Mayweather? IS Walters better than Kovalev? Who are Nakatani, Sosa, Crolla, Martinez better than on the list I made for Canelo? In order to match head to head with Lomachenko's resume, I would need to add fighters like Mosley, Cintron, Matt Hatton, Baldomir, Ndou, Khan, L. Smith, Chavez Jr, Josesito Lopez, Alfonso Gomez. Basically the lower tier fighters Canelo has fought. That's how you can match them head to some with Lomachenko's bottom tier, top opponents. You absolutely can't look at their resume and say Lomachenko took more risks unless you are extremely high. The caliber of some of the fighters Lomachenko fought, Canelo was fighting before he could legally drink alcohol. Hell, the better comparison is actually Lomachenko to AJ's resume. Both fought a bunch of top/solid fighters, both have 2 upset losses to fighters that most fans would agree they should have beaten. Speaking about reality, I think you should consider coming back to it. Don't bother Kev, if you can't sum everything up in two sentences it's not worth reading :rolleyes: Poor guy hasn't recovered from the night Golovkin lost to Canelo and Teofimo easily beating Loma probably still gives him nightmares

Lol cry me a river. Canelo and AJ had the same formula - get everything in their favor and take limited risk while having the judges ready if needed. Loma actually did challenge himself and 135 has shown to be a little too much for him so far. He does get too much sh.it really but yes a lot of fans are dumb. Acting like AJ and Canelo were taking on so many risks, lol, that's the joke on boxing today. Anyone buying that sh.it, idk how you make it through the day. Just devoid of reality. You are really looking like you don't know what you are talking about and are just interested in trolling. I am not sure how you can say Lomachenko challenged himself but Canelo and AJ have not. That is just ridiculous and extremely biased to the point that it looks like you are trolling. Canelo has fought: Mayweather GGG 2x Cotto Jacobs Lara Trout Kovalev Callum Smith BJS Rhodes Miguel Vazquez Kirkland Angulo AJ has fought: W. Klitschko Whyte Usyk Parker Pulev Martin Povetkin Ruiz 2x Takam Breazeale Lomachenko has fought: Salido T. Lopez Rigondeaux Russell Jr Pedraza Linares Walters Campbell Sosa Nakatani R. Martinez Crolla I am sorry, but how exactly does Lomachenko's resume of tough fighters he has fought, so much better than Canelo's and AJ's? Sounds like bias to me. Please tell us what risks Lomachenko took that Canelo has not taken? Elaborate. Is Russell Jr better than Lara? is Salido better than GGG? Is Pedraza better than Jacobs? Is Rigondeaux better than Mayweather? IS Walters better than Kovalev? Who are Nakatani, Sosa, Crolla, Martinez better than on the list I made for Canelo? In order to match head to head with Lomachenko's resume, I would need to add fighters like Mosley, Cintron, Matt Hatton, Baldomir, Ndou, Khan, L. Smith, Chavez Jr, Josesito Lopez, Alfonso Gomez. Basically the lower tier fighters Canelo has fought. That's how you can match them head to some with Lomachenko's bottom tier, top opponents. You absolutely can't look at their resume and say Lomachenko took more risks unless you are extremely high. The caliber of some of the fighters Lomachenko fought, Canelo was fighting before he could legally drink alcohol. Hell, the better comparison is actually Lomachenko to AJ's resume. Both fought a bunch of top/solid fighters, both have 2 upset losses to fighters that most fans would agree they should have beaten. Speaking about reality, I think you should consider coming back to it.

Only a total bum would say Wilder drew that fight. Easy win for Fury. By about 6 points. Wilder won 2 rounds You have no business scoring a fight if you think Wilder won a max of 2 rounds. Typical insight from someone so wrapped up in tribal factors that they can't put that aside for 2 seconds and just score a fight. The first 6 rounds had hardly any action. Giving Fury any more than 4 of those would be insane. He did win nearly every second of the last 6 rounds, but he did get caught twice, meaning the last 6 were basically a wash. Fury outlanded Wilder in each of the first 6 rounds - but in 4 rounds it was by 2 punches, in 1 round it was by 1 punch. Fury didn't land double digit punches in any of those five rounds. Wilder punches harder than Fury on average, in that fight anyway, when they both land. There was hardly any domination in those first 6 rounds. Pathetic for anyone to try and act like there was. Again, anyone saying that fight was dominant on the scorecard from Fury dksab. But there are many people like that so you're in good company.

Is this guy for real? Let's see, Golovkin decided to sit in a dead division, he was contempt to wait for that Canelo payday for years. No one said anything because he was hiding under the guise that he wanted to unify all the belts yet his actions contradict that. When he did step up and fought Jacob's whose the same type caliber of fighter as Ruiz, he struggled like crazy. He was lucky to get the W, as a matter of fact that fight should've had a rematch but not a word from Golovkin yet Joshua and Ruiz did have a rematch and he got the W easily. And then we have Derevyanchenko (whose in the same league as Dylllan Whyte) another fighter that Golovkin should've had no problem beating and yet he had to dig deep and barely scraped by with the W. You bring up Usyk being the smaller fighter yet Golovkin also fought the smaller fighter coming up in weight in Canelo and most Golovkin fans kept bragging how he was going to knock out the ginger no problem. Not a lot of people where giving Canelo a chance to pull off the upset and yet we all saw what happened, he made him look ordinary at times and practically killed that boogeyman nonsense(If it makes you feel better I also had Golovkin winning the first fight btw). He cried that Canelo ran too much and what happened in the second fight? Canelo took the fight to him and beat the "Mexican style" out of him, he whooped him bad that Golovkin like Joshua ran away after the fight :lol1: You can "claim" and "quote" all the articles you want but that fight was too close to call (I had Canelo winning) and it could've gone either way and unfortunately for Golovkin that L is going to stay on his record. Years from now boxing analysts are going to remember and tell the story how the Canelo beat "The boogeyman" Golovkin. Luckily for Joshua he still has the rematch to try and get a win over Usyk, the same way Golovkin had a second chance to fight Canelo. Finally isn't it funny how Canelo only took less than two years to unify all the belts yet Golovkin had an entire career and just couldn't get it done. You claiming Canelo and Joshua are protected and manufactured fighters just doesn't add up as much as you would like everyone to believe. Specially with Canelo, his gone and done more than anything Golovkin ever dreamed of achieving. Once he unifies 168 Canelo needs to step up and fight Benavidez or if he goes down he needs to fight Charlo, the same Charlo that's fighting in the same weight class as Golovkin and yet again the "boogeyman" won't even mention him. He rather go and fight in another country against another no hoper, who would have guessed otherwise :rolleyes: I'm not reading all that dude. I wrote 2 sentences. If you could make a real point in response you wouldn't need to write all of that garbage.

You are too funny Bro! :lol1: He said that to Eddie Chambers, allegedly

What a disgrace to the superior black race. You are too funny Bro! :lol1:

Is this guy for real? Let's see, Golovkin decided to sit in a dead division, he was contempt to wait for that Canelo payday for years. No one said anything because he was hiding under the guise that he wanted to unify all the belts yet his actions contradict that. When he did step up and fought Jacob's whose the same type caliber of fighter as Ruiz, he struggled like crazy. He was lucky to get the W, as a matter of fact that fight should've had a rematch but not a word from Golovkin yet Joshua and Ruiz did have a rematch and he got the W easily. And then we have Derevyanchenko (whose in the same league as Dylllan Whyte) another fighter that Golovkin should've had no problem beating and yet he had to dig deep and barely scraped by with the W. You bring up Usyk being the smaller fighter yet Golovkin also fought the smaller fighter coming up in weight in Canelo and most Golovkin fans kept bragging how he was going to knock out the ginger no problem. Not a lot of people where giving Canelo a chance to pull off the upset and yet we all saw what happened, he made him look ordinary at times and practically killed that boogeyman nonsense(If it makes you feel better I also had Golovkin winning the first fight btw). He cried that Canelo ran too much and what happened in the second fight? Canelo took the fight to him and beat the "Mexican style" out of him, he whooped him bad that Golovkin like Joshua ran away after the fight :lol1: You can "claim" and "quote" all the articles you want but that fight was too close to call (I had Canelo winning) and it could've gone either way and unfortunately for Golovkin that L is going to stay on his record. Years from now boxing analysts are going to remember and tell the story how the Canelo beat "The boogeyman" Golovkin. Luckily for Joshua he still has the rematch to try and get a win over Usyk, the same way Golovkin had a second chance to fight Canelo. Finally isn't it funny how Canelo only took less than two years to unify all the belts yet Golovkin had an entire career and just couldn't get it done. You claiming Canelo and Joshua are protected and manufactured fighters just doesn't add up as much as you would like everyone to believe. Specially with Canelo, his gone and done more than anything Golovkin ever dreamed of achieving. Once he unifies 168 Canelo needs to step up and fight Benavidez or if he goes down he needs to fight Charlo, the same Charlo that's fighting in the same weight class as Golovkin and yet again the "boogeyman" won't even mention him. He rather go and fight in another country against another no hoper, who would have guessed otherwise :rolleyes: how do his actions contradict that? he already had 3 of the belts. the wba(promoted to legit champ in 2012 when geale ducked him), ibf from lemiuex unification, wbc when canelo refused to fight him and dropped the belt, and during that period he offered saunders a career high payday when saunders was wbo champ and saunders turned it down. "They are offering life changing money but it's not just about that because it would be a big risk for me." he also previously was signed to fight pirog who was wbo champ and pirog got injured, he also sent an offer to quillin when quillin was wbo champ and he turned it down, and he was also signed to fight lee when lee was wbo champ but ggg's father died so the fight was scrapped. how do his actions contradict that? hiding from who? that statement makes no sense. he had 3 of the 4 belts and clearly tried to get the 4th. what a strange silly comment that is, clearly not based on anything factual. canelo actually came down in weight to fight ggg. he wasnt coming up. if you think canelo is really smaller than ggg even though he was bigger when he fought ggg and now fights at 168 and 175 i really dont know what to say. prob an anti-vaxxer i would guess? ivermectin anyone? the same charlo who refused to figh on dazn? oh yeah that one. life is so simple when you ignore pertinent information isnt it? charlo also should have lost to korobov yet murata who has a better resume is a no hoper? literally this is what you are saying "ggg should have fought a guy who its impossible to fight due to that fighters actions" such smart commentary. ivermectin anyone?

What a disgrace to the superior black race.