I’m an AJ fan but I can’t see how anyone could score it close as 115/113, he had a couple of good rounds at best.
Usyk isn’t a puncher at heavyweight, any Boxer hitting you cleanly repetitively will cause you problems
I gave AJ R5,6, and 8, really couldn't make a case for him in any other round. Nash out.
I think it has a lot to do with his defensive technique, or lack thereof. He stands up very straight, pulls back from punches and doesn't tuck his chin well or carry his guard all that high. Plus he has a bit of a funny shaped head, he's got quite a big chin that's quite a big target. Obviously he's not packing granite but we've also seen him get hurt or knocked down by big hitters like Whyte and Klitschko and then rally to win so I don't think he's china either. His chin's probably just average overall, but his defensive flaws exacerbate the issues.
Wait, people are saying the 115/113 card was the more accurate? Ridiculous. AJ won about 3 rounds, 4 max. He was competitive in most rounds but was losing them. I think I gave him 5, 6 and 8 with 4 being a swing round. That's it. He didn't win a round from 9 onwards, even AJ fan's biggest hero Hearn said he didn't win a round after the 8th. Fanboys need to get over it. He lost convincingly and there'll be a rematch soon, if you're struggling to cope there's still some hope in him having a better game plan in the 2nd fight.
I've seen people on here complain that a robbery didn't take place and question why the judges didn't 'help' AJ and grant him a draw. Fanboys are the fucking worst thing about this sport.
Usyk hit A.J very solid ,Usyk is a powerful puncher if he keeps hitting you in the same spot ask Tony Bellew . Usyk almost had Chisora out of there early to ,A.J took the shots well I thought besides the last round . It was a close fight I thought the the last judge who scored it 115/113 had it right . Usyks speed was impressive,I think speed factor also comes into play hitting A.J at angles were also part of it because it was an element of surprise.
I’m an AJ fan but I can’t see how anyone could score it close as 115/113, he had a couple of good rounds at best.
Usyk isn’t a puncher at heavyweight, any Boxer hitting you cleanly repetitively will cause you problems
He's Amir Khan but with 100lb of muscle that helps him take shots better. People underestimate how much conditioning and neck strength help take shots.
well if he has been down 7 times, then I would say that is actually below average for a heavyweight champ and for someone in the top 5 of the division. Maybe his chin isnt below average for every heavyweight in the world, but for a champ it is below average, we have enough data to show that and we seen him rocked not just once but multiple times last night, both in the early rounds, in the middle rounds and in the final round.
He also folds mentally and freezes up. In the opening rounds it was odd, he was standing there in the center of the ring while usyk was circling him, never seen anything really like it, like his mind wasnt able to handle two things at once, his foot movement just froze and he was focused solely on Usyk's movement and trying to counter or whatever and forgot to even try to move around the ring too.
They will have to match him up against a real bum next to get his confidence back, maybe even pay the guy some side money to dive. The blueprint is out there to beat him, next guy is just going to try to get in his head and put big pressure on him opening rounds.
His confidence is absoloutley shot to bits, a few years back he wouldn't get this paralysis analysis and would just charge in throwing the kitchen sink with the confidence that if even one of his shots landed it'd be game over.
He gave Usyk far far far too much respect, he did not go in that ring to be the hammer, his attitude should have been yes, great lovely fancy feet you have there Usyk but it isn't going to save you because I'm going to run you over like a train.
That should have been his attitude, no respect, Chisora and Bellew did better because they gave him no respect, yes they both lost but they also both had far more success than AJ and both said he could finish what they couldn't because he's African hercules.
Waaaaaay too much respect.
Yes.
Sorry, he is chinny, maybe he's not as bad as Amir Khan but it's not far off, he was getting smoked by a cruiserweight with no power, and he made Andy Ruiz look like prime Mike Tyson.
His chin is no good.
Uysk is not known as a big puncher and Joshua was reacting badly when he was hit flush by the straight left.
I think even a Wilder glancing blow will KO Joshua.
Fury will completely whitewash Joshua i struggle to see him winning a round.
Well he never been knocked out cold and he at least finishes on his feet and he got up repeatedly vs Ruiz and the Ref waved it off. Got up vs Wlad and stopped Wlad (a Wlad that was past it of course)
So I wouldn't say "Glass" but yeah the Chin is Shaky
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lol Joshua fans thinks inflated muscles is supposed to give him a strong jaw. Joshua's physique is more suited as an underwear model, it's all wrong for an elite boxer, his inflated muscles are detrimental for his stamina and makes him a stiff robot.
The weird thing is he appears very physically strong and durable. I don't really think he has a bad chin. His mentality seems to change in the middle of a fight when he's taking damage. Maybe it's his pain threshold, or anxiety, or something like that.
He looks like he SHOULD be able to take shots and just bulldoze his opponents like a Joe Joyce, but instead he starts to doubt himself and lets the opponent take control of the fight.
- -Dunno, did anyone check his gloves after he shredded Usyk?
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Maybe not "glass' but his punch resistance is poor, compounded by poor defensive skills, and his obvious anxiety about actually getting hit making things even worse.
I don’t think he has a glass chin. He panics badly when he gets caught flush which makes it look worse
that said, once he is actually hurt, He has arguably the worst recovery time I’ve ever seen in a world level fighter.
well if he has been down 7 times, then I would say that is actually below average for a heavyweight champ and for someone in the top 5 of the division. Maybe his chin isnt below average for every heavyweight in the world, but for a champ it is below average, we have enough data to show that and we seen him rocked not just once but multiple times last night, both in the early rounds, in the middle rounds and in the final round.
He also folds mentally and freezes up. In the opening rounds it was odd, he was standing there in the center of the ring while usyk was circling him, never seen anything really like it, like his mind wasnt able to handle two things at once, his foot movement just froze and he was focused solely on Usyk's movement and trying to counter or whatever and forgot to even try to move around the ring too.
They will have to match him up against a real bum next to get his confidence back, maybe even pay the guy some side money to dive. The blueprint is out there to beat him, next guy is just going to try to get in his head and put big pressure on him opening rounds.
Id say somewhere between chinny and suspect after last night. Against Ruiz,it was pretty clear is a temple shot that killed his legs so didn't read to much into that loss as 99% of boxers getting clipped up top like that are suffering the same effects.
But after last night,yea,it's pretty suspect now. Reacting like that from a non puncher like Usyk kinda put the writing on the wall. Doesn't necessarily mean he loses to Fury or Wilder though so let's hope we still get those matchups,belts or no belts like AJ has stated.
On that note, anyone getting hit by a 220 pound guy is going to get rocked. The bodyweight is huge. Just a little story from my past that kind of accentuates this. I've always been around 160 pounds, sometimes a little less, sometimes a little more. But there was a period that I went up to about 225. I was still active but gained a crap load of weight for medical reasons. When I played B-ball with my friends, it was like night and day. Same guys trying to stop from from going to the hole. When I was 160, I'd either have to work my way in or I'd fly backward. At 225, however, without even trying, I'd make my bros fly out of the way.
One night at a strip club, I got into it with some people there. It attracted the attention of the bouncer. This bouncer, this guy, he was huge. Just a solid, muscular guy at 6'2" or something. He came at me and I just reacted. I took him down in a second. He hit the ground. He wasn't knocked out or anything but I dropped him. There was no way I would have done that at 160. But at 225? Yeah, I could take anyone down if I caught them. That weight difference is GIGANTIC. I know first hand.
So it's kind of hard to say. Not everyone can be a Foreman or Holyfield.
I think he has an average chin but really doesnt handle big shots well mentally. I think he panics a little bit rather than firing back or moving in a defensively sound manner.