Barring a very surprising Nov 6 I don't see how anyone argues Canelo out of the number one spot but Usyk's win tonight puts him at my #3 spot behind #2 Inoue and I could even be talked into switching 2 and 3. It's pretty rare to see a heavyweight who you can imagine dominating with their fighting style if they were sized like a smaller division fighter, but like... if a hypothetical 168 pound dimensioned Usyk could fight Canelo at 168 I'm not sure I would be able to pick the winner better than a coin flip.
usyk has done it in more than one division. fury is just 6ft 9...he isnt a pound for pound. a 6ft 6 version of fury would struggle because of the dimished reach advantage.
Inoue for me is largely the eye test, I love guys who attack the body but what Inoue does is more like watching a building get demolished.
Usyk is now eye test backed up by unifying all belts at cruiser and becoming a holder of multiple belts at heavyweight.
Not choosing the path of the least resistance. picking & choosing the weakest belt holders & then running off to another division to do the same. All the while, likely being loaded to the gills, with the judges in his back pocket. if you think thats p4p no .1 kind of material then alright :fing02:
I guess I have to ask again. What do you think Canelo should be doing instead? Who do you think he should be fighting that he hasn't fought?
What do you think Canelo should be doing instead outside of fighting guys at 175, which he'll probably be doing next year anyway?
Not choosing the path of the least resistance. picking & choosing the weakest belt holders & then running off to another division to do the same. All the while, likely being loaded to the gills, with the judges in his back pocket. if you think thats p4p no .1 kind of material then alright :fing02:
Canelo needs every advantage, legal & non legal to win a fight, sorry but thats not a no.1 p4p world champ for me. Choosing the path of least resistance...
Canelo is more a manufactured fighter, like AJ. imo.
What do you think Canelo should be doing instead outside of fighting guys at 175, which he'll probably be doing next year anyway?
I just don't see anyone between 160-168 who I'd pick to give Canelo anything close to a pickem match. And if we're gonna extend the range to 175 (which even considering that already says a lot) there's just Bivol and Beterbiev who are definitely dangerous fights but really only because of the size difference. Maybe Jermall Charlo in a year or two after a careful jump up to super middle. But otherwise yeah to me the essence of pound for pound is a guy so good nobody across 3 weight divisions feels they can credibly threaten them and that's Canelo right now for sure.
Canelo needs every advantage, legal & non legal to win a fight, sorry but thats not a no.1 p4p world champ for me. Choosing the path of least resistance...
Canelo is more a manufactured fighter, like AJ. imo.
He's #2 now in my opinion.
More meaningful win today than anything Crawford or Inoue have done.
Inoue for me is largely the eye test, I love guys who attack the body but what Inoue does is more like watching a building get demolished.
no.1 for me. true definition of a world champ, travels around the world to champs backyards and takes their belts.
Bud doesnt have the resume, and Canelo is marred by corruption & PEDS, robberies etc.
I just don't see anyone between 160-168 who I'd pick to give Canelo anything close to a pickem match. And if we're gonna extend the range to 175 (which even considering that already says a lot) there's just Bivol and Beterbiev who are definitely dangerous fights but really only because of the size difference. Maybe Jermall Charlo in a year or two after a careful jump up to super middle. But otherwise yeah to me the essence of pound for pound is a guy so good nobody across 3 weight divisions feels they can credibly threaten them and that's Canelo right now for sure.
Pound for pound is made up imaginary nonsense.
What usyk is though is one of the best in his division, only fury has an argument for being better currently.
no.1 for me. true definition of a world champ, travels around the world to champs backyards and takes their belts.
Bud doesnt have the resume, and Canelo is marred by corruption & PEDS, robberies etc.
I like Terence Crawford a lot and he's my favorite active fighter to watch fight now but like, if a portal opens up and an alternate reality 147 pound sized Usyk steps out and challenges him to a fight I still don't think I can pick the winner.