Will Joshua rematch Usyk?

unlike AJ who allowed Usyk to take the initiative. Yeah AJ just “allowed” him to box circles round him. Some of you fanboys… :lol1:

Exactly right. Against Ruiz, Joshua implemented a plan to use his movement and reach for 12 but against Usyk there's no one 12 round plan to follow to get the decision. Adjustments will be made and Usyk's bigger boxing brain will win it again for him. AJ’s is likely gonna need his own “shot from the gods” to beat Usyk.

I think we see Usyk/Joshua 2 and the Fury/Wilder 3 winner vs. Whyte in the first quarter of 2022. If Wilder wins you know they won't be fighting outside the PBC tent

I agree. I think he definitely will. He probably needs to for his brand also, on top of wanting to out of personal pride and wanting to avenge a defeat. But for me, I’d take at least one tune up fight, this isn’t a Ruiz situation were AJ has to just make simple adjustments. AJ has to completely develop his game to beat Usyk IMO. Exactly right. Against Ruiz, Joshua implemented a plan to use his movement and reach for 12 but against Usyk there's no one 12 round plan to follow to get the decision. Adjustments will be made and Usyk's bigger boxing brain will win it again for him.

Yeah, I'd imagine so.

He's not a fluke. Teo boxed brilliantly against Loma. He imposed hiswill from the first round unlike AJ who allowed Usyk to take the initiative. And he controlled the distance perfectly and punished Loma every time he circled to his weaker side. That's great coaching and strategy. It was a fluke and he knows the overcome in a rematch and that is why he keeps running away from Loma. By the way, give some credit to Usyk.

I really dont know. I just cant see a way AJ can win that fight now having seen the sheer skill gap between them. If he tries to put on weight and bully Usyk next time I think he'll just gas himself out and get pieced up just as badly if not worse as the fight goes on. AJ has never been risk averse though so he might just take that rematch. Obviously there will be pressure on him to put this right before he can move on too.

His eye isn't damaged - disregard the rumours started by Hearn. It was just swollen but it's almost back to normal now. If he's taking the rematch - he needs to leave Rob and his other trainers and move to the US. A change of environment to be able to check back in and leave all the leeches behind. And the best coach for him against USyk is Teofimo's dad. He went in there flat thinking his power alone would be enough and when he started getting to Usyk in the 4-5 rds by working the body - Rob told him to go back to the jab and that allowed Usyk back in the fight. 1. Leave the UK and move to the US to be able to check back in because he has already checked out of boxing mentally. 2. He has outgrown those coaches and leeches around him - fffck loyalty, time to start afresh. 3. Get Teofimo's dad as his next coach. Teo the fluke daddy? LOL

His eye isn't damaged - disregard the rumours started by Hearn. It was just swollen but it's almost back to normal now. If he's taking the rematch - he needs to leave Rob and his other trainers and move to the US. A change of environment to be able to check back in and leave all the leeches behind. And the best coach for him against USyk is Teofimo's dad. He went in there flat thinking his power alone would be enough and when he started getting to Usyk in the 4-5 rds by working the body - Rob told him to go back to the jab and that allowed Usyk back in the fight. 1. Leave the UK and move to the US to be able to check back in because he has already checked out of boxing mentally. 2. He has outgrown those coaches and leeches around him - fffck loyalty, time to start afresh. 3. Get Teofimo's dad as his next coach. I agree he needs a new trainer. If he got Teofimos dad that would be crazy. In a good way. Like the entertainment, level would be incredible.

I think he exercises his rematch clause. He has shown it in the past and I cant see any better option for him.

Sure. What should he do, fight some nobody in non title fight for little money?

if he's smart he'll take a year break, reinvent himself again, comeback fight 1-2 tomato's and then demand a big fight with one of the 3 big names in Fury, Usyk, or Wilder. People forget this is heavyweight boxing, and just yesterday Wilder was the big undefeated dog until Fury beat him, and AJ was the biggest thing until Ruiz came around and now Usyk. In other words AJ can easily recapture his glory in this era and division by just beating one of the top guys, because all of them are vulnerable.

Yea, I think he will take the rematch straight away barring serious injury to the eye. I dont know if he will make the necessary adjustments or can make them to beat Usyk. Usyk may stop him in the next fight if he cant. Joshua will have to be a bully to beat Usyk and I just dont think its in his nature, he doesnt have much of a mean streak in him.

He's not going to become a mandatory any time soon, obviously. He'd be getting a shot based on commercial value - which he has plenty of. The loser of Fury/Wilder would be a very quick route back into the reckoning. And I'd give him a better chance against either of them than I do against Usyk - styles make fights and all that. Usyk won't ever be right for him, though as a big puncher he'll have a chance. Whyte, Ortiz, Joyce (would be the wrong move) could be big fights to put him straight back into the equation. I think he'll rematch, because I think he's got the balls to go away, train the house down, and give himself every possible chance against Usyk. The thing with Joshua is that he attracts a very casual fanbase who are also very fickle. I think the longer he goes without being champion and in the conversation as being in the top 2 in the world, his fanbase could quickly dwindle. He’ll always be a draw for sure, but selling stadiums out won’t be quite as simple. i think to keep that level of commercial value and the casual audience, he probably needs to roll the dice in the rematch.

I think AJ wants to retire tbf, Eddie will give him a KO job to build his confidence and then make Whyte 2 on ppv and throw him in with Wilder or Fury for his final payday. I could possibly see AJ-Whyte 2 also, I think deep down that’s what Eddie would rather do as it’s a safer option, but it’s AJ’s decision at the end of the day.

Not interested in your agendas. Do you think he'll invoke the rematch clause? He's got the kind of character to do it (and all credit for that), but in my opinion it's not worth it. Claim the eye is damaged, let the rematch go, and take an easier route back to a belt. I agree. I think he definitely will. He probably needs to for his brand also, on top of wanting to out of personal pride and wanting to avenge a defeat. But for me, I’d take at least one tune up fight, this isn’t a Ruiz situation were AJ has to just make simple adjustments. AJ has to completely develop his game to beat Usyk IMO.

Not interested in your agendas. Do you think he'll invoke the rematch clause? He's got the kind of character to do it (and all credit for that), but in my opinion it's not worth it. Claim the eye is damaged, let the rematch go, and take an easier route back to a belt. In round 8 I would have said for sure he will invoke the rematch card if he loses. But after the damage he took in those last rounds I think he would be smarter to take some time to heal up and maybe get a tune up fight in. My feeling is that if he decides a year from now that he's in top shape for a rematch Usyk would be more than happy to give it to him. From a fans perspective I thought this was a great competitive fight and just beautiful boxing so I'd love to see it whenever it happens. My gut though is if it happens immediately then Usyk probably looks even better just from "winner in a rematch" advantage, and have trouble imagining Joshua making drastic enough adjustments to change the fight dynamic in so short of a time.

I think so. Where else does he go? Fighting in non title fights? I can’t see it. Usyk is too good for him. I said it on here or a long time that Usyk beats him. He will do it again. He's not going to become a mandatory any time soon, obviously. He'd be getting a shot based on commercial value - which he has plenty of. The loser of Fury/Wilder would be a very quick route back into the reckoning. And I'd give him a better chance against either of them than I do against Usyk - styles make fights and all that. Usyk won't ever be right for him, though as a big puncher he'll have a chance. Whyte, Ortiz, Joyce (would be the wrong move) could be big fights to put him straight back into the equation. I think he'll rematch, because I think he's got the balls to go away, train the house down, and give himself every possible chance against Usyk.

I think AJ wants to retire tbf, Eddie will give him a KO job to build his confidence and then make Whyte 2 on ppv and throw him in with Wilder or Fury for his final payday. That's what I think he should do. He doesn't have much chance in the rematch. He's not the same fighter since the fight with Wlad. His confidence has never been the same. Whyte 2 would be a good fight he can win and then maybe have a go at a title again. If he loses retire as one of HWs biggest overachiever.

He should rematch him. He was in the fight. I had it even after 8.