I would respect him more if he retires, it's absolute madness if he continues fighting, you can't escape brain damage if you're a professional boxer, and he's been at it for 20+ years! He's made millions, he should be able to retire comfortably. If he's broke, then it's his own fault, have no sympathy for multi millionaire athletes who go broke after retirement.
At 40, some days your legs work fine and other days, not so well.
Probably on a good day Pac wins. Pac hasn't got to change strategy to beat Ugas, he just needs his legs back
And avoid getting hit on the body. If not, he will lose his legs again, and maybe, just maybe, he wouldn't be able to find those legs again.
If Pac can win rematch it will be an unbelievable win one of greatest of all time. To come back after a loss is hard in itself, but to do it now would be special.
I don't know if Pac would win rematch but if you get a rematch your half way there. You only worry if opponent doesn't give you one.
Ugas is an underrated fighter, and I think whilst he would lose to prime Manny, he has a style that would have won around 4 rounds still. All this Ugas is average talk is nonsense. If he was a boxer from an older era he'd be talked about as an ATG, but it's cool to shit on modern boxers for some reason. I think Manny should rematch Jeff Horn, avenge a loss, albeit a debatable one, and then retire, he ain't beating Ugas at this stage of his career. For the record, I had it a clear 8-4 Ugas, and could have went 9-3. Nash out.
- -Well now, garffy, what U know about me wouldn't fit into nano IQ. Manny had to same time to prep...duh!
Manny decided to fight Spence and vice versa...duh!
Haymon guarantee $28 mil for Ugh who nobody ever wanted to watch and still don't. Manny ain't gonna turn down an emergency payday that prevented him from fighting in the Corona Panic even if the fighter stinks aka Ugh, and no, I weren't part of the notorious Ring panel voting 19-1 for Manny. Clearly the fight goes the distance, and now Haymon with a Manny scalp in his last fight resulting in him controlling the WBA title...Mission Accomplished...
So we agreed, pacquio took the fight, regardless of motives. Which I still think and agreed with you, it was the money. My bad if you are not one of the 19. Be safe.
no point.
put Pac-Spence up.
Then Ugas can take a mandatory in the meantime.
Afterwards, fight Spence for unification.
Then Spence gets Bud-Porter winner. (likely Bud but even more to my point. the WBO belt will be stagnant during this quarterly process.)
We can always have discussions and different points of view or we can see the same thing. It is what makes it fun, it's all good with me.Without question; The same here. I love you guys. We may have our misunderstandings from time to time but the bottom line is that we are all boxing fans.
Sure we may occasionally disagree but as along we can disagree without being disagreeable without judging one another and without all the name-calling.That's what makes this forum fun. It's never personal with me. i just love boxing.
You enjoy the rest of your weekend sir. I enjoyed this dialogue with you..
We can always have discussions and different points of view or we can see the same thing. It is what makes it fun, it's all good with me.Without question; The same here. I love you guys. We may have our misunderstandings from time to time but the bottom line is that we are all boxing fans.
Sure we may occasionally disagree but as along we can disagree without being disagreeable without judging one another and without all the name-calling.That's what makes this forum fun. It's never personal with me. i just love boxing.
You enjoy the rest of your weekend sir. I enjoyed this dialogue with you..
It was pacquio who decided he will fight. More money, easier fighter, Roach was telling the world pacquio will win by ko. Guys like you, were celebrating before the fight. By the way, Ugas had 11 days to prepare too.
- -Well now, garffy, what U know about me wouldn't fit into nano IQ. Manny had to same time to prep...duh!
Manny decided to fight Spence and vice versa...duh!
Haymon guarantee $28 mil for Ugh who nobody ever wanted to watch and still don't. Manny ain't gonna turn down an emergency payday that prevented him from fighting in the Corona Panic even if the fighter stinks aka Ugh, and no, I weren't part of the notorious Ring panel voting 19-1 for Manny. Clearly the fight goes the distance, and now Haymon with a Manny scalp in his last fight resulting in him controlling the WBA title...Mission Accomplished...
Yes, indeedI That was never my intention but if I did; I apologize. In any case, I get you chief! We good! :cool2:
We can always have discussions and different points of view or we can see the same thing. It is what makes it fun, it's all good with me.
Never said that, now you are projecting. Father Time is undefeated.
Yes, indeedI That was never my intention but if I did; I apologize. In any case, I get you chief! We good! :cool2:
So you believe that Pac should keep fighting. I don't. I believe that Pac's best days are now behind him and he should retire. Do we agree? In his last fight, he was not only beat but also beat up. We don't want to see the Pacman get hurt now do we?
He is fighting much younger. larger and stronger men and the the longer he fights the greater are his chances of getting hurt. It was heartbreaking to watch his wife Jinkee spoon feed him as he was unable to do it himself due to fatigue and pain.
Manny doesn't need that at this stage of his career or life. He should be enjoying life with his family and doing the things that he likes to do like being a public servant in serving the needs of his fellow countrymen and compatriots.
Never said that, now you are projecting. Father Time is undefeated.
Go and read my post to see if I am what you describe. You making up a lot of things as you go so it can fit your agenda. The title that you gave me suits you better. So you believe that Pac should keep fighting. I don't. I believe that Pac's best days are now behind him and he should retire. Do we agree? In his last fight, he was not only beat but also beat up. We don't want to see the Pacman get hurt now do we?
He is fighting much younger. larger and stronger men and the the longer he fights the greater are his chances of getting hurt. It was heartbreaking to watch his wife Jinkee spoon feed him as he was unable to do it himself due to fatigue and pain.
Manny doesn't need that at this stage of his career or life. He should be enjoying life with his family and doing the things that he likes to do like being a public servant in serving the needs of his fellow countrymen and compatriots.
Go and read my post to see if I am what you describe. You making up a lot of things as you go so it can fit your agenda. The title that you gave me suits you better.
Pac's best days are now behind him and he should retire. Do we agree? In his last fight, he was not only beat but also beat up. We don't want to see the Pacman get hurt now do we?
He is fighting much younger. larger and stronger men and the the longer he fights the greater are his chances of getting hurt. It was heartbreaking to watch his wife Jinkee spoon feed him as he was unable to do it himself due to fatigue and pain.
Manny doesn't need that at this stage of his career or life. He should be enjoying life with his family and doing the things that he likes to do like being a public servant in serving the needs of his fellow countrymen and compatriots.
You are right. As a matter of fact his career is over. He is a ruined fighter. He hasn't been the same fighter since that Danny Garcia fight back in 2017.
That Pac fight was a setup..His team knew he was a ruined fighter. Which is why they took the fight in the first place. You see he hasn't fought since haven't you?
He re-injured himself in the Pac fight and had to have surgery again. Al Haymon has shelved him. It's alright Doc. We good. That's why I am here to educate staunch and loyal boxing fans such as yourself.
Go and read my post to see if I am what you describe. You making up a lot of things as you go so it can fit your agenda. The title that you gave me suits you better.
Thurman was a shot fighter. Got it. BTW I was going for Thurman in that fight.
You are right. As a matter of fact his career is over. He is a ruined fighter. He hasn't been the same fighter since that Danny Garcia fight back in 2017.
That Pac fight was a setup..His team knew he was a ruined fighter. Which is why they took the fight in the first place. You see he hasn't fought since haven't you?
He re-injured himself in the Pac fight and had to have surgery again. Al Haymon has shelved him. It's alright Doc. We good. That's why I am here to educate staunch and loyal boxing fans such as yourself.
Now where on earth did you get a crazy idea like that from? It was a masterful performance by Pac considering he was 40 years old at the time.
All I am saying is that when a fighter reaches his forties he has to be very careful in screening and knowing which battles to choose or he will run the risk of it backfiring on him like it did on Saturday night.
On August 21st; Pac fought a man that he never had any intentions of fighting who was of sound body and good health. Which was a major reason why he lost at age 42 to him..
The very opposite is true about Keith Thurman. There's no question that Keith Thurman was a shot and cherry picked opponent. What about that do you not understand?
It's the main reason why Team Pacquiao agreed to fight him in the first place at age 40 because they felt they could take take him.
Even Buboy can be seen boasting and gloating about how shot Thurman looked in his previous fight with Josesito Lopez where he was nearly stopped just prior to the Manny Pacquiao fight. Use your common sense man.
Thurman was a shot fighter. Got it. BTW I was going for Thurman in that fight.
So by your account it wasn't a good performance and Pac should not get any credit for it? I never saw Thurman stop trying to win in that fight.
Now where on earth did you get a crazy idea like that from? It was a masterful performance by Pac considering he was 40 years old at the time.
All I am saying is that when a fighter reaches his forties he has to be very careful in screening and knowing which battles to choose or he will run the risk of it backfiring on him like it did on Saturday night.
On August 21st; Pac fought a man that he never had any intentions of fighting who was of sound body and good health. Which was a major reason why he lost at age 42 to him..
The very opposite is true about Keith Thurman. There's no question that Keith Thurman was a shot and cherry picked opponent. What about that do you not understand?
It's the main reason why Team Pacquiao agreed to fight him in the first place at age 40 because they felt they could take take him.
Even Buboy can be seen boasting and gloating about how shot Thurman looked in his previous fight with Josesito Lopez where he was nearly stopped just prior to the Manny Pacquiao fight. Use your common sense man.
So by your account it wasn't a good performance and Pac should not get any credit for it? I never saw Thurman stop trying to win in that fight.
Now where on earth did you get a crazy idea like that from? It was a masterful performance by Pac considering he was 40 years old at the time.
All I am saying is that when a fighter reaches his forties he has to be very careful in screening and knowing which battles to choose or he will run the risk of it backfiring on him like it did on Saturday night.
On August 21st; Pac fought a man that he never had any intentions of fighting who was of sound body and good health. Which was a major reason why he lost at age 42 to him..
The very opposite is true about Keith Thurman. There's no question that Keith Thurman was a shot and cherry picked opponent. What about that do you not understand?
It's the main reason why Team Pacquiao agreed to fight him in the first place at age 40 because they felt they could take take him.
Even Buboy can be seen boasting and gloating about how shot Thurman looked in his previous fight with Josesito Lopez where he was nearly stopped just prior to the Manny Pacquiao fight. Use your common sense man.