Will GGGs "title" defense "record" be rescinded now that WBA ruled? Or does that not count?

ggg's title defences are smoke and mirrors unlike bernard hopkins. Most of those weren't even WBA super titles. Leave it to clueless casuals to compare it with hopkin's record.

No Hopkins 20 Defenses include the NC. He also Golovkin was already the Full WBA Champion in the Tapia fight so it counts in the 20 defenses. Golovkin wasn't a "Regular" Champion because it wasn't a distinction at the time because Strum was didn't actually meet the requirements of being WBA Super Champion. "Didn't meet the requirements" lol,he literally was WBA super champ before ggg got the interim,& was the full champion throughout gggs wba regular run. And while ggg was elevated to Wba regular champ before the tapia fight,it was the WBA regular belt which as this thread is about means he held the belt the WBA says will now be retroactively viewed as #1 contender(because Sturm was the real champ,thats undebatable because he held the super champ belt aka the real belt.)(actually on 2nd thought maybe his belt doesn't count as the ones being rescinded,my bad if im wrong) From gggs Wikipedia:"Golovkin won the WBA interim middleweight title in 2010 by defeating Milton Núñez. The WBA elevated him to Regular champion status in the same year."

GGG wasn't considered the true champ even then. Revisionists tried to turn around and claim he was the dominant middleweight for a decade or whatever, when in reality he was an afterthought fighting low tier guys on the sidelines for much of his career.

Nope this is completely incorrect,go to boxrec & count the fights,a NC is not the same as a draw also. Ggg was the regular"champ" to Sturms Super champion (super is the real title) You can flip it however you want to but the fact remains that ggg was only the jr beltholder for 15 of the 20,& he didn't even defend the WBA 20 times consecutively,as the WBA refused to sanction the Brook mismatch. To top it off the record is for title defenses which means ggg only ties the record if you count Tapia as a title defense(which would mean Bhop had 21 defenses if you count that) No Hopkins 20 Defenses include the NC. He also Golovkin was already the Full WBA Champion in the Tapia fight so it counts in the 20 defenses. Golovkin wasn't a "Regular" Champion because it wasn't a distinction at the time because Strum was didn't actually meet the requirements of being WBA Super Champion.

Forbes, and Sporting News, and British commentators, and Mexican commentators, and HBO all saw Golovkin not beating Jacobs. But go ahead and dismiss them all if it doesn't support your agenda. I already addressed in some detail why a lot of people end up having somewhat terrible opinions on fights and fighters. Anyone scoring that fight for Danny, is just a terrible opinion of which there are many in boxing and many in the world overall.

I don't understand the point being made here, the WBAs ruling is regarding interim champions not World champions. It shouldn't have a bearing however you choose to count GGGs title defense record (I personally consider him to have 15 consecutive defenses as a sole or primary Champion from any sanctioning body or 14 as the sole or primary WBA champion)

So 2 fanboys have no business scoring fights and gave Jacobs 8 rounds? Lol cool. Forbes, and Sporting News, and British commentators, and Mexican commentators, and HBO all saw Golovkin not beating Jacobs. But go ahead and dismiss them all if it doesn't support your agenda.

Boxingscene had it 114-113 BORAT CBSsports had it 114-114 BadLeftHook had it 114-113 BORAT SportingNews had it 115-112 JACOBS Forbes had it 115-112 JACOBS Etc. etc. etc. Ca$hnelo and Jacobs and Sergeiy beat Borat LOL So 2 fanboys have no business scoring fights and gave Jacobs 8 rounds? Lol cool. With names like Cashnelo and Borat, your opinion on who won etc in boxing is meaningless. Have a good day lil fella

No, Lederman had it 6-6. Which would have gone to GGG. Rather inexplicably, he gave Jacobs the first 2 rounds, when they were pretty clearly - a slight nick to GGG in round 1, and then a slight edge to Danny in a 50/50 round 2. The judges all had the fight virtually the same way, over after 9 rounds. Danny won round 10, and then 11 was close (as was 7) and 12 didn't really matter since it was over by then, but GGG probably won that too. 12th rounds are generally hard for me to score because they are all effort and a lot of times they don't really matter. Danny landed about 50 fewer shots and got KD. People trying to make that fight into a win for him, it's pathetic honestly. But look at the way you post and talk, I'm sure you are pathetic in real life. Canelo wasn't active enough in either GGG fight to make a claim of winning. He had good close rounds for about half of the fight, and then got outworked the other half. GGG isn't Muslim either, not that that matters at all when evaluating who wins a fight. Sounds like you're focusing on the wrong things when scoring! Boxingscene had it 114-113 BORAT CBSsports had it 114-114 BadLeftHook had it 114-113 BORAT SportingNews had it 115-112 JACOBS Forbes had it 115-112 JACOBS Etc. etc. etc. Ca$hnelo and Jacobs and Sergeiy beat Borat LOL

HBO themselves - GGGs personal hype machine - scored it for Jacobs. It was a very, very close fight and Danny landed the better shots. GGG also lost to Canelo in the rematch but you're mouth is too full of Muslim di ck to understand No, Lederman had it 6-6. Which would have gone to GGG. Rather inexplicably, he gave Jacobs the first 2 rounds, when they were pretty clearly - a slight nick to GGG in round 1, and then a slight edge to Danny in a 50/50 round 2. The judges all had the fight virtually the same way, over after 9 rounds. Danny won round 10, and then 11 was close (as was 7) and 12 didn't really matter since it was over by then, but GGG probably won that too. 12th rounds are generally hard for me to score because they are all effort and a lot of times they don't really matter. Danny landed about 50 fewer shots and got KD. People trying to make that fight into a win for him, it's pathetic honestly. But look at the way you post and talk, I'm sure you are pathetic in real life. Canelo wasn't active enough in either GGG fight to make a claim of winning. He had good close rounds for about half of the fight, and then got outworked the other half. GGG isn't Muslim either, not that that matters at all when evaluating who wins a fight. Sounds like you're focusing on the wrong things when scoring!

His first real title defense (not "interim" or "Regular") came against Rosado to take his record to 25-0. I have never considered any Interim or Regular belts to be real. When he fought against Rosado he defended the full version of the WBA title for the first time, so that's when his reign fully began for me.

Right, obviously there is always an exception to the rule. Impact matters too, not just volume. However on volume, GGG outlanded Danny in 9 of 11 rounds, with 1 tie (according to compubox, which I think more or less got it right there). Punch for punch, it's hard to argue Danny was landing as impactfully as GGG anyway that night. It's fair to say GGG didn't perform up to expectations against Danny - personally I thought the first good shot GGG hit him with on the chin, he would go down. But his chin is better than it first appeared. If you were to tell me Danny would go 12 rounds, I would have expected an 8-4 type GGG win, and that's what it was. Fair to say GGG didn't perform as expected vs Danny Canelo (Twice) and Sergei really. But the only close fight he had in that or in his whole career was vs Sergei. Everything else, love him or hate him, only had one winner and it was GGG. HBO themselves - GGGs personal hype machine - scored it for Jacobs. It was a very, very close fight and Danny landed the better shots. GGG also lost to Canelo in the rematch but you're mouth is too full of Muslim di ck to understand

Golovkin has 15 title defences 14 consecutive - Rosado until Canelo 2 And 1 as his new reign as IBF champion Davis is not a multi weight world champion. He is a super featherweight titlist. He hasn’t won major titles at any other weight I don’t think there’s much to debate ?

Ggg still fights???

British and Mexican commentators thought Danny Jacobs won that fight. So it's not like it's an outlandish position. British commentators, first of all, routinely are terrible. And we don't need to wonder too much about why Mexican commentators would try and see it for Danny. GGG was the boogeyman and people, especially people who were invested in seeing chin.ks in his armor, were a little too eager to make that performance out to be more than what it was - a nice performance by Danny, exceeded expectations as far as going the distance. He still lost, probably 8-4, that's 5 points with the KD. Yeah anyone saying Danny won that fight, I mean who cares but that's about as clear of a win as you can get for a guy in a competitive 12 round fight. If Danny and GGG fought each other's fight, I'd have the same opinion but in reverse. Those who score that fight for Danny, surely would not do the same. Credit Danny for exceeding expectations, knock GGG for not doing more if you want to, but yeah trying to say the fight Danny fought was good enough, relative to GGG"s work that night, it's just not serious. But we have all sorts of terrible biased opinions in boxing all the time, who cares.

Right, obviously there is always an exception to the rule. Impact matters too, not just volume. However on volume, GGG outlanded Danny in 9 of 11 rounds, with 1 tie (according to compubox, which I think more or less got it right there). Punch for punch, it's hard to argue Danny was landing as impactfully as GGG anyway that night. It's fair to say GGG didn't perform up to expectations against Danny - personally I thought the first good shot GGG hit him with on the chin, he would go down. But his chin is better than it first appeared. If you were to tell me Danny would go 12 rounds, I would have expected an 8-4 type GGG win, and that's what it was. Fair to say GGG didn't perform as expected vs Danny Canelo (Twice) and Sergei really. But the only close fight he had in that or in his whole career was vs Sergei. Everything else, love him or hate him, only had one winner and it was GGG. British and Mexican commentators thought Danny Jacobs won that fight. So it's not like it's an outlandish position.

...Boxer A could land 60 punches in Rd 1 w/ a KD to 5 punches for boxer B. Next 11 rounds...Boxer B outlands and wins. Hi dum dum Right, obviously there is always an exception to the rule. Impact matters too, not just volume. However on volume, GGG outlanded Danny in 9 of 11 rounds, with 1 tie (according to compubox, which I think more or less got it right there). Punch for punch, it's hard to argue Danny was landing as impactfully as GGG anyway that night. It's fair to say GGG didn't perform up to expectations against Danny - personally I thought the first good shot GGG hit him with on the chin, he would go down. But his chin is better than it first appeared. If you were to tell me Danny would go 12 rounds, I would have expected an 8-4 type GGG win, and that's what it was. Fair to say GGG didn't perform as expected vs Danny Canelo (Twice) and Sergei really. But the only close fight he had in that or in his whole career was vs Sergei. Everything else, love him or hate him, only had one winner and it was GGG.

So outlanding a guy by about 50 punches, and scoring a KD, is a 'gift' lol. Boxing has about the most irrational fans out there really ...Boxer A could land 60 punches in Rd 1 w/ a KD to 5 punches for boxer B. Next 11 rounds...Boxer B outlands and wins. Hi dum dum

I made this thread became the WBA said in the press release that they are going to consider prior jr beltholders as #1 contenders.(just for the record I consider ggg a skillful elite champ who was among the best of his era) Duly noted I see you're point and I also commented on that thread because it was about time the WBA did something correct instead off their usual stupidity which they seem to do, I wasn't criticising or downplaying you're thread I think it's a valid question given the recent circumstances and changes in the organisation but I doubt it will effect past fights title defences since the changes are taking effect now in the present.

Borat is a nobody. He returned to fighting roofers and auto mechanics. His claim to glory was a gift decision (including an illegal KD) against SD, a gift against Jacobs, and going 1-1 w/ Canelo. Some peeps here wanted to make him out to be special. Just a prima donna Muslim Kazakh who wanted everyone from 154-168...at 160. Now its bye bye Borat XD XD XD So outlanding a guy by about 50 punches, and scoring a KD, is a 'gift' lol. Boxing has about the most irrational fans out there really