Re watched the Porter and Spence fight and Porter tags him all 12 rounds with no problem. Porter is also slow as molasses and doesn’t look to have much umph in those punches due to lack of speed.
How did he manage to connect so much on Spence?
Is Spence defense a liability against PAC?
Oh ok...I gotcha. Manny gonna need a gameplan to tire him out, and idk if feints are the answer, I think he better off going to the body, Manny can't kill his own late fight energy trying to tire or him out with his legs.
The more I think about Manny potentially winning the more credit I think Freddy should get for putting together a complex gameplan considering Manny stamina issues from age
I think so too. Especially if Spence is looking to jump back after every attack, his head will be hard to get to. But I’m not holding my breath as Pacquiao has let me down a few times in that regard.
He can easily hurt Spence with a left to the body I believe, and the more Spence wants to jab the more opportunities. Body work is also usually paramount against a solid high-guard, to confuse/drop the guard if nothing else.
i dont think you get my post....
i was pointing out to you that, spence will also get tired in the actual fight, so if he was tired in the sparring video and that's why he took all those punches, what's gonna happen to him when he gets tired in the actual fight??
Oh ok...I gotcha. Manny gonna need a gameplan to tire him out, and idk if feints are the answer, I think he better off going to the body, Manny can't kill his own late fight energy trying to tire or him out with his legs.
The more I think about Manny potentially winning the more credit I think Freddy should get for putting together a complex gameplan considering Manny stamina issues from age
Geezus what???? I responded directly to your comment about sparring not the fight between the two, so stay on topic.
You can't judge sparring without context, it's no point. It's too many details that go into it, which I already brought up.
Lemme guess I'm hating? I think Manny will give Spence trouble, also think he has the perfect style to beat Spence, but his age will come into play same as it did in the Thurman fight when he slowed down, Thurman didn't take advantage of it and let Manny have a late rally.
Spence a more consistent fighter than Thurman and has better stamina.
One thing I'm curious about tho .. is Spence body punching, how often will he take the chance of getting countered trying to go the body. I already feel like it's a good chance Manny scores a flash knockdown probably mid fight since Spence has such a tight guard probably once Spence gets more aggressive later.
i dont think you get my post....
i was pointing out to you that, spence will also get tired in the actual fight, so if he was tired in the sparring video and that's why he took all those punches, what's gonna happen to him when he gets tired in the actual fight??
geezus!!!
so you think spence wont have to go thru that in the actual fight?!!! you think spence wont get tired in the actual fight???!!!
point is that, if he gets tired in sparring and is taking those shots, what;s gonna happen to him when he gets tired in the ACTUAL FIGHT??!!!!! that was my point......................
pac is a lot more mobile and has a lot more energy than the guy spence was sparring... bradley said it best, all the feints manny does keeping you on edge not knowing when he's gonna throw is what tired him out the most..
Geezus what???? I responded directly to your comment about sparring not the fight between the two, so stay on topic.
You can't judge sparring without context, it's no point. It's too many details that go into it, which I already brought up.
Lemme guess I'm hating? I think Manny will give Spence trouble, also think he has the perfect style to beat Spence, but his age will come into play same as it did in the Thurman fight when he slowed down, Thurman didn't take advantage of it and let Manny have a late rally.
Spence a more consistent fighter than Thurman and has better stamina.
One thing I'm curious about tho .. is Spence body punching, how often will he take the chance of getting countered trying to go the body. I already feel like it's a good chance Manny scores a flash knockdown probably mid fight since Spence has such a tight guard probably once Spence gets more aggressive later.
he won a split decision right? And lost the second half of the fight outside of a late round rally. Without that knockdown or a swing round he could have lost or gotten a draw. Which means "ALMOST LOST"
Now explain how I said anything wrong or delusional?
get out your feelings....
Now saying Manny purposely lost the second half of the fight is complete delusional Bull**** wouldn't you agree . I know you apart of the Pac squad, but you don't seem as delusional as the others
he didnt "almost loss the fight"... that's a dumb thing to say... did he get hit in the later rounds, yes... it's a damm fight. spence also took some shots from danny and porter in the later rounds, did spence also almost loss the fight???
thurman was nowhere close to what marquez did in 1-2 against manny, being down early and coming back to even the fight up... thurman didnt do this!!! if he did, then you would have a point just like how marquez caught up in the 2nd half against pac in 1-2...
pac had thurman doing the running man around the ring in the 10th round... but pac almost loss just because he took some shots from thurman in the later rounds? none of the shots he took made him react in the way thurman did in the 10th.. now imagine if thurman had pac runnin around in the 10th, you woul have said thurman won the fight because of that!!! sad!!!
delusional as hell!!!!! "almost loss that fight"???? wtf were you watching???
mofos hold pac to such high standard.... "oh oh he got punch in the face 2x in the 5th round" so he loss...
he won a split decision right? And lost the second half of the fight outside of a late round rally. Without that knockdown or a swing round he could have lost or gotten a draw. Which means "ALMOST LOST"
Now explain how I said anything wrong or delusional?
get out your feelings....
Now saying Manny purposely lost the second half of the fight is complete delusional Bullshit wouldn't you agree . I know you apart of the Pac squad, but you don't seem as delusional as the others
But without context it's no point in judging it... Don't know who was fresh, what they was working on etc. No crowd, no dangerous intent, no stakes, adrenaline is different, lol have y'all sparred before???
geezus!!!
so you think spence wont have to go thru that in the actual fight?!!! you think spence wont get tired in the actual fight???!!!
point is that, if he gets tired in sparring and is taking those shots, what;s gonna happen to him when he gets tired in the ACTUAL FIGHT??!!!!! that was my point......................
pac is a lot more mobile and has a lot more energy than the guy spence was sparring... bradley said it best, all the feints manny does keeping you on edge not knowing when he's gonna throw is what tired him out the most..
Lol..... I'm trying not to call you an idiot so hard lol. .
Manny almost lost that fight, if he didn't score a knockdown he most likely would have gotten a draw or lost..... But according to you Manny was like a Lion playing with it's food.
I swear y'all Pacfans are the most delusional fans on this site. Lol.
delusional as hell!!!!! "almost loss that fight"???? wtf were you watching???
mofos hold pac to such high standard.... "oh oh he got punch in the face 2x in the 5th round" so he loss...
Not on face value it don't, you need to know the details because in every camp the main guy is being pressured hard, some sparing will have maybe 12-15 rounds rotating 4 different guys, if you don't know what the sparing proceeds you're pissing in the wind, you guys form strong opinions on very little information.
yes i know how sparring goes... 3-4 guys get brought in and spar the fighter (1)... there's videos of pac fresh off sparring 12rds, 3 different guys, 4 rds each, and pac looked exhausted!! but you are not gonna see me on here justifying it by saying "it's just sparring"... yes, it's sparring, it's not the real fight, but sparring is where you are suppose to work on your craft and tighten up your tools.. so if a fighter is getting hit too much in sparring then you have guys on here saying "it's only sparring".... well, yeah but he's not suppose to get hit like that!!
Completely outclassed Thurman.
Took the first 5 rounds EASY WORK.
Thurman only won middle rounds because PAC allowed him and then closed the deal in the later rounds.
Thurman played catch up the whole time.
Also keep in mind you’re a bonafide troll.
Lol..... I'm trying not to call you an idiot so hard lol. .
Manny almost lost that fight, if he didn't score a knockdown he most likely would have gotten a draw or lost..... But according to you Manny was like a Lion playing with it's food.
I swear y'all Pacfans are the most delusional fans on this site. Lol.
Not on face value it don't, you need to know the details because in every camp the main guy is being pressured hard, some sparing will have maybe 12-15 rounds rotating 4 different guys, if you don't know what the sparing proceeds you're pissing in the wind, you guys form strong opinions on very little information.
Also it's easier to get hit with that headgear which can block your vision and make you have to move your head a longer distance when slipping punches. Especially if your wearing certain headgear vs the ones from back in the day.
why do you think porter is slow as molasis?
He is stocky and powerful and explosive as a fighter
I would not describe Portor as slow, but he is not laser like fast.
Portor's mentality will make him appear faster 'He has no issue charging forward and applying pressure continually' It is instinctive to him.
Spence has a simple defense really, he is a bit like Ronald Winky Wright but not as good. Ronald Winky Wright had the simple defense perfected.
sparring is not the actual fight.... BUT, it gives you an idea where a fighter is at... you think a fighter is purposely gonna take unnecessary punches, just because "it's sparring"???
Not on face value it don't, you need to know the details because in every camp the main guy is being pressured hard, some sparing will have maybe 12-15 rounds rotating 4 different guys, if you don't know what the sparing proceeds you're pissing in the wind, you guys form strong opinions on very little information.
Keep in mind this is the poster that said despite Manny getting out punched by Thurman (in both power punches and total punches) and winning a razor thin split decision, Manny "outclassed" Thurman. Objectively is not his thing. Agenda driven cheerleader would fit..........
Completely outclassed Thurman.
Took the first 5 rounds EASY WORK.
Thurman only won middle rounds because PAC allowed him and then closed the deal in the later rounds.
Thurman played catch up the whole time.
Also keep in mind you’re a bonafide troll.
First of all sorry for all those Errol fanboys that have man crushes similar to ggg fanboys who make every close fight or non stoppage into their favorite fighter changing his style to fight (match) their opponents style. Lol.
Btw Spence didn’t play Porters game. Smh. Nor did he play Mickey Garcia’s game either. Porter is a wild man but he can be effective at times due to his foot speed and awkwardness similar in certain ways to Ricky Hatton or Pac-Man (no Porter doesn’t fight like Pac-Man fanboys). He throws your timing off in a way and you’re forced to fighting him a certain way if you cannot neutralize his awkwardness. The correct way to neutralize him is to do what Kell Brooke did catch him coming in and tie him up no matter how much Kenny Porter cries about clinching.
Errol was not really effective in doing so although he was effective at getting off on Porter more than he is given credit for but I believe he was hit more than he expected so he played into the narrative that he fought Porters fight which is false. No one fights Porters fight he’s wild and Errol is not and was not that night. So please stop with the bullshiittt.
PAC has incredible boxing IQ and so much experience it’s almost unfair to these current welters who’ve never been in wars such as he.
You will see the experience play a major role in this fight. Along with the speed.
PAC is the boxing game’s Tom Brady.
Even Bradley has said so.
Keep in mind this is the poster that said despite Manny getting out punched by Thurman (in both power punches and total punches) and winning a razor thin split decision, Manny "outclassed" Thurman. Objectively is not his thing. Agenda driven cheerleader would fit..........