The sport has become so rampant with corrupt and inept judging, that fighters consistently get robbed week after week and judges continue to get away with it. I think it's time that all fights start announcing the cards after every single round. That way at least everyone will know if a fighter is getting fucked in real time and the fighter and their team can know that they have to go for a KO or do more. I realize not knowing the cards leads to some of the suspense of boxing, but it's archaic imo. What other sport do you not know the scores of during the game? lmao. Think this will also lead to more exciting fights in later rounds when boxers know for certain when they have to step on the gas to win a fight and whether or not it will take a KO. At the very least they should show the cards every 2 or 3 rounds, but I'd like to see this be instituted world wide across professional boxing. I think this is a change that the sport needs.
Go balls to the wall for a knockout. Isn't that better than a guy coasting thinking he's way ahead and then getting ****ed on the cards. Don't you think Mykal Fox steps on the gas and goes for the KO the other night if he knows the judges aren't giving him rounds?
What if your a fighter that does not fight in that style and your fighting a big puncher? See... there are two archetypical concepts engendered in professional prize fighting that are strictly not part of amatuer fighting. Having a 3 round contest, trying to land the most conventional punches is like playing checkers, when compared to professional fighting (chess).
The one concept is that of combat, a fighter, who is not necessarily even an athlete. The other concept is the game... the scoring, strategies, etc. Which make boxing a sport. More and more boxing is becoming a sport at the expense of fighting... this includes skills and strategies used.
the skill in the professional game happens when fighters are allowed to use their style to the most advantageous extent... I gave an example regarding Torrez and the Gold Medal fight contest: In professional prize fighting a smaller, more active man, has plenty of time to break down a bigger opponent. In the Olympics a bigger fighter just has to go for 3 rounds and land more.
Imagine if Bowe versus Holyfield happened in the Olympics: No body shots to wear a fighter down for later... No need to pace oneself... Bowe would just bully Holly for three rounds, while they traded head hunting shots... Hollyfield would be at a great disadvantage.
Open scoring ultimately has the effect of changing boxing to a more limited pursuit where fighters will fight more and more like amatuers, which is what has happened over the years anyway. Seldom do we see fighters like Toney, Hopkins, Fury, with skills and strategies designed to fight to win in 12 rounds. open scoring makes boxing into a limited pursuit, pleasing the judges instead of setting out to win the fight using body punches for later, drawing the opponent into deep water, and slipping punches so masterfully that they look like they landed and did not, etc.
We need better judging, real punch stats with equipment that registers clean punches, and no special interests...
Fight till a KO/TKO
If it goes all 12 then it's a draw, then got to reschedule and do an immediate rematch or else get that draw switched to an L someone doesn't want to run it back.
Folks dig down deeper when they know they're losing and need to do something to try and get the victory(If Lebron James couldn't see the score of the game, you think he would've tracked down Iguodala and saved his team a bucket with that incredible block).
Boxing definitely should do this and try to offer something new to draw fans.
Boxing just can't get anyone new to give a dam about such a pathetic sport
Absolutely. It's everywhere Pro and Amatuer.
No accountability for corrupt judges. They get away with their scam results and full pockets of corrupt money.
That’s the thing, what do you do in a situation where you’re wrongly down every round and there’s no chance to win?
Go balls to the wall for a knockout. Isn't that better than a guy coasting thinking he's way ahead and then getting fucked on the cards. Don't you think Mykal Fox steps on the gas and goes for the KO the other night if he knows the judges aren't giving him rounds?
I say put the judges in a room without any commentary audio and fans to persuade judges to give the close round to the house fighter. This will also help with replays and missed calls, add another judge to we don’t get anymore draws.
Never gonna happen.
Too much money involved with the current system.
This.
How do you guys think Floyd stayed “undefeated”?
Vegas bred him to be their cash cow.
That’s the thing, what do you do in a situation where you’re wrongly down every round and there’s no chance to win?
Lose all hope, bite an ear... headbutt:lol1: seriously... exactly the problem.
A crude analogy might best make the point? If one is grabbed suddenly and quickly buggered... Would this be a better Hobsen's choice than being slowly grabbed, and slowly buggered?
Knowing the judges are planning a s c r e w job is not a solution to stopping the fckery.
That’s the thing, what do you do in a situation where you’re wrongly down every round and there’s no chance to win?
My own thinking would be: Have six judges a fight, alternate each round judged by 3. After each round, watch slowed replay and determine your score after doing so. This would help because: If nothing else it would give 6 points of view instead of 3, also judges would be able to review key points in the rounds and be accurate about what punched landed, etc.
Also, eventually instead of compubox which is true fkery, boxers could,like fencers, wear something that shows when most punches land... not all (fencing is very target specific) but most... And this could replace compucrap.
You're 100% correct, I thought the exact same thing. But he was told he was down 8-0 in a fight that he should have been up in. Had he not gotten aggressive after that, he doesn't get KD'd and the W has a lot more controversy.
A crude analogy might best make the point? If one is grabbed suddenly and quickly buggered... Would this be a better Hobsen's choice than being slowly grabbed, and slowly buggered?
Knowing the judges are planning a s c r e w job is not a solution to stopping the fckery.
Actually I think it hurt Trout. He changed his style a bit and became aggressive.
That's not his style.
- -Still didn't help Trout as he had no A game to begin with and done sack of sheesh since to prove otherwise.
I think once you dig into one issue, you'll get to the heart of all the issues of Boxing, which is that pretty most aspects of the sport are totally bent for money. You'd think a single, world governing body would help weed out most of the issues by having a unified, updated set of rules and bring the sport into the modern world – but like FIFA you'd just have corrupt cunts working their way to the top yet again.
I still think that would be an improvement to what we have right now though. Seeing judges held responsible and audited for shit scoring, and the best being forced to fight the best for one world title in each division. It would also make boxing much bigger than what it is right now.
It needs something but I am not sure this is the answer purely because I could see fighters having dominant rounds and it fvcking with them mentally knowing they had just had them scored against them. I have no other suggestion other than to just rid the blatantly corrupt judges/refs one by one like you would in any other profession
A silly comparison but I'd liken it to Fifa where you know you're dominating and the better player but the game is just dead set against you. Its practically pre determined.
Its this that leads to you getting frustrated, making more mistakes and forcing the issue. It f*cks with you psychologically and no matter how hard you try to shrug it off you're just tense.
You know games where you have 80% possession, his keeper stops 5 1vs1s in rapid succession then a baby biting the controller ends up pressing the square button and circle as your goalkeeper just stands static and it pea rolls past him at 1mph, it just messes your head especially if you're a thinker and more strategic.
I would like to see the winner of each round scored individually. That way the winner of the round would at least need the favor of two judges to win the round. Then whoever has the most rounds won, wins the fight.
This will basically weed out the clearly paid off judge.
I think this would go a long way to cleaning up the sport and making it fairer.
Exactly. I am for the scores being announced after each round.