Couldn't knock out little chubby Mikey Garcia.
Couldn't make a dent in Shawn Porter and almost lost to him.
Labored down the stretch vs Danny Garcia. If you actually watched the fight, Garcia was wacking Spence in the late rounds,. Spence had zero stamina and was running.
Dude throws some basic ass combinations and telegraphs everything. That's why he can't get any knockouts lately. Throws the same punches.
How embarassing would it be for a 42 year old man with a 2 year layoff were to beat you.
If he can't beat Pacquiao, his ass needs to hang it up.
PAC can actually take his pick who he fights out of Spence and bud as nobody knows who's the better fighter out of bud/spence. But then PAC haters will say PAC is ducking bud if PAC chooses Spence.
Then, so be it if you are going to say buds No1 without having proven it, PAC quite rightly can demand more money for taking fight. If on other hand bud can boast having beaten Spence then I'm sure PAC will be happy to take less money fighting bud because at least PAC can claim to have beat the man who beat the man.
Bottom line is if Pac fights bud, people will then say spence is best so Pac needs compensation
At end of day bud should be fighting g spence to see who's the best Ww, if it's not already pac as pac did best thurman afterall.
But as bud not stepped up to plate pac is trying to clear things up and if pac beats spence there is no need for a bud fight. Pac really shouldn't be fighting spence he's done it all
Buds with top rank the rest of the big names at welterweight are with PBC. That's why the fight hasn't happened.
I agree on Floyd ducking Thurman and Kahn. Pac didn't want to fight Crawford after the Crawford/Horn fight. They were both with Top Rank that would've been the biggest money fight. He fought Lucas Matthysse instead. Dont see how Crawford has ducked anyone. Hes getting freezed out. Its the business of boxing.
At end of day bud should be fighting g spence to see who's the best Ww, if it's not already pac as pac did best thurman afterall.
But as bud not stepped up to plate pac is trying to clear things up and if pac beats spence there is no need for a bud fight. Pac really shouldn't be fighting spence he's done it all
Floyd ducked thurman, spence and bud. Bud ducked his fair share also. Pac is the only one who don't duck. He's fought, thurman and spence. How is he ducking bud? Buds not proven he's no1 ww so how is Pac ducking him? You saying he's the best so pay Pac the money!. Buds not proven himself as no1, but again if you are going to say he's no1 pay Pac the money
I agree on Floyd ducking Thurman and Kahn. Pac didn't want to fight Crawford after the Crawford/Horn fight. They were both with Top Rank that would've been the biggest money fight. He fought Lucas Matthysse instead. Dont see how Crawford has ducked anyone. Hes getting freezed out. Its the business of boxing.
Pacquiao ducked Crawford
Floyd ducked thurman, spence and bud. Bud ducked his fair share also. Pac is the only one who don't duck. He's fought, thurman and spence. How is he ducking bud? Buds not proven he's no1 ww so how is Pac ducking him? You saying he's the best so pay Pac the money!. Buds not proven himself as no1, but again if you are going to say he's no1 pay Pac the money
Crawford was trying to fight Pacman because he is a free agent. All the other relevant WW's at PBC are afraid of Crawford. So Crawford was trying to fight the person not afraid.
And, in case you missed it, Roach indirectly said they "picked Spence over Crawford for a REASON"
in case you missed it ...leading up to the mean machine fight arum kept saying their next target was porter.....after that fight kenny porter said "call us"....about two weeks later bud was interviewed at a fight and asked about porter "hes not on our radar".....arum said the most he'd offer porter was 1 million....LOL....im sure you missed that...because its a sad joke....the pbc guys arent afraid of bud one bit.....
People would say bud is very overrated if your talking resume. Bud and spence not fought each other so who is best is anyone's guess, nobody can make claim they are the best?
Its taking a little fellow called Pac to step in to clear things up and if Pac beats spence Pac is no1 W w and can retire as having proven he's no1
Pacquiao ducked Crawford
I agree completely Spence is very overrated. His resume is Brook after the GGG fight, and fighters Keith Thurman already beat in Garcia and Porter. His resume is not that impressive and I think a fight between him and Crawford would be very one sided in favor of Crawford.
You know Crawford fought brook too
Like 5 yrs later
And Crawford doesn't even have a Garcia or porter on his resume
I agree completely Spence is very overrated. His resume is Brook after the GGG fight, and fighters Keith Thurman already beat in Garcia and Porter. His resume is not that impressive and I think a fight between him and Crawford would be very one sided in favor of Crawford.
People would say bud is very overrated if your talking resume. Bud and spence not fought each other so who is best is anyone's guess, nobody can make claim they are the best?
Its taking a little fellow called Pac to step in to clear things up and if Pac beats spence Pac is no1 W w and can retire as having proven he's no1
I agree completely Spence is very overrated. His resume is Brook after the GGG fight, and fighters Keith Thurman already beat in Garcia and Porter. His resume is not that impressive and I think a fight between him and Crawford would be very one sided in favor of Crawford.
Crawford was trying to fight Pacman because he is a free agent. All the other relevant WW's at PBC are afraid of Crawford. So Crawford was trying to fight the person not afraid.
And, in case you missed it, Roach indirectly said they "picked Spence over Crawford for a REASON"
They picked Spence over Crawford for a REASON and the reason was that Crawford DIDNT SIGN THE CONTRACT LMAO!
https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1385751300818702336?s=20
You had it the other way around. It was Crawford who is afraid of all the other relevant welterweights!
everyone looks bad against porter and he aint being stopped anytime soon. it would take an elite welter like a thomas hearns or something before i could see porter getting stopped
Trinidad, Oscar and Duran would have stopped him
Errol Spence is almost close to the same aura as Hagler. The only thing missing is the lack of "Hall of Fame" worthy fights. He's finally getting it with Pac tho. Just like how Hagler is remembered with Duran, Hearns, and Leonard.
thats awesome that youre going! i saw pac fight live twice in 09...went out for the hatton and cotto fights(still have my tix stubs)....was a blast...atmosphere was amazing both times
ive always loved floyd...especially when he turned into "money"....i loved watching him get under peoples skin and knowing the whole time he was still training like he was broke and every opponent, even if he knew was a level or several below him, was trying to take money off his plate
anyways.....have a blast!
Thank you bro, I'll make sure to take pics to show all of yall, that's what I loved about Floyd, he knew that the more people that hated him, the more people would want to watch him lose and in the end, he would get paid, dude made millions like that.
Disagree. Spence is legit. Tested in some tough fights. Just wish he fought Thurman so that we could have had a proper welterweight king crowned when they were both peaking.
Hes a good fighter he isnt a generational talent though in my eyes just the most solid at 147 and likely the hardest to dethrone and thats enough in an era with no fighters like pac and floyd
Maybe crawford is the only threst but even he is judged on the eye test and not his actual achievements
Errol Spence is the most overrated boxer today
So by your 'logic' if Spence is the most overrated boxer today but he beats Packy then what does that make Packy? You need to keep away from those street corner durgs.
Spence is a good solid fighter I think about Ike Quartey level with less one-shot power, I don't see that as overrated, but if I said Spence was ATG material that's overrating him.
So could Ike Quartey beat a 42yr old Manny ?