Mark Breland got a raw deal from Deontay Wilder

Then who is responsible for spiking Wilder's water??? Even if Breland didn't put the drugs on Wilder's water himself, it was his responsibility to supervise the other people in the corner! Lol.. I hope you playing with that response. You gotta be. The only person caught with illegal anything was Deas and his smelling salts.

Because I asked on a point by point basis and every time you said you didn't disagree. Did you wake up dumb today? Take a break and respond to me tomorrow when you're feeling yourself. No, that wasn't me. You must have been talking to somebody else in your head.

Karma just took a bit bite out of Wilder's overrated ass for all the people he threw under the bus for his loss. F*** him!

Mark should have let Fury finish Wilder off hindsight is wonderful thing. Now Wilder is surrounded by his bum lick yes men, Fury will kill him this time if the ref doesn't step in.

As a trainer, your first duty is to not let your fighter be killed or maimed. If Wilder had said he'd fired Breland because he felt Breland's training resulted in him getting beaten to where he could no longer intelligently defend himself, that would be ok. But to fire Breland because you say you'd rather him let you die in the ring is just ridiculous and stupid.

So you agree with everything I say but also agree Mark got a raw deal? Bro, if you ever do anything bud, pay me to just be around and never improve a damn thing. Pass up opportunities with other people who might actually help you. Defend my job when others tell you to get someone else. Then only fire me after a decade together and I did something to piss you off. If that's a raw deal I want all them raw deals. From where did you get the idea that I agree with everything you said? I don't know how good a trainer Breland is, and I don't need to know anything about that in order to have an opinion about the towel throwing and the water spiking. Whether Mark is a good or a lousy trainer, throwing in the towel was the right thing to do, and Wilder's water spiking accusation is both ridiculous and grossly unfair.

The new notes system is ****ed bud. That's the exact accusation I made in some new words, yes.....You've linked your dislike for Wilder and **** he says to appreciation for a guy you, yourself, claimed didn't do anything for Deontay but pull him from a fight he was losing. I don't have no beef with Mark. I wasn't on here calling him a great trainer before hand. I'm not on here calling him **** now. All I am doing is questioning a rabble of cocksuckers on their motives. Mark got a raw deal? Mark's a great trainer? :lol1: Y'all don't even think that. What you think is you don't like Wilder, you agree with Mark on one action he ever took Wilder's whole career and that's all a scumsucker needs to go pretend like you give a **** about Mark Breland. I don't need to think Breland is a great trainer to applaud his decision to throw in the towel and save Wilder from a potentially career ending beatdown in a fight he couldn't win. I don't need to think Breland is a great trainer to understand that he was unfairly scapegoated and slandered by Wilder and to feel sympathy for the guy because of that.

I'm not talking **** about Mark. I don't believe everything Wilder says, and don't repeat everything Wilder says... I'd like that story if it's true but I seriously doubt it's true and I don't like the Breland spiked his water bit one bit so I just don't talk about it. You think Wilder is full of it on that account, just like the rest of us do. Fair enough.

Dunno where or how you got that. No, I think no other trainer ever was ever 180'd on by public opinion over a ****ing towel. Mark Breland went from the most criticized trainer on this forum to a well respected and praised trainer over a towel, not his training methods. I promise you this. I too can sit in a corner, give water and no instructions while I wait for my dude to get battered then throw in a towel. I can, you can, all these guys can, ain't no one here can't. But yeah, because you don't think Mark spiked his water you reckon he's a great trainer do you? That's not dumb as ****. :lol1: I know Wilder is a Southern boy and you feel the need to stand up for your sweet tea-drinking, Confederate flag waving kind. Plus Mark Breland is a Yankee. From New York City no less. But what I'm asking is if you really buy into all of the "spiked water, snake in the grass, Dirrell convinced Breland to stop the fight" talk?

:lol1: Everyone's a Breland fan after Wilder fires him :lol1: Bet you don't have a single post, bet none of you have a single post, in your post history that has anything to do with Breland but nothing to do with Wilder. Bet youse have got plenty of posts about how Wilder needs to fire his trainer before he did it. Mark Breland had trained how many champions before Wilder? And Since? Last I heard he was picked up by a Charlo or some **** like that. Doubled his roster huh? So, in reality Mark Breland is a guy youse didn't give any ****s about because he'd done **** all but have a mediocre career after being part of America's greatest Olympic team...you know, did not live up to his hype, then became a trainer and trained no one, lucked out with a guy who became champion regardless of anything Mark brought to the table, got carried by that man long into his career despite Mark bringing nothing for him, got criticized endlessly because it was obvious Mark brought nothing for Wilder, then y'all didn't like Wilder's excuse making factory and now Mark Breland is a boxing hero Y'all can circlejerk one another but can't change your stripes this late in the game.You are full of ****. You really think Mark Breland spiked Deontay's water?

NSAC was in on the conspiracy too. They refused to test for gypsy voodoo and white privilege after the fight. Dude, re you hearing yourself??????? How far can you go with all of this BS???

Don't you think they would found out after the fight when the tests were done to both fighters? That is BS from Wilder's team, like all of the other lies. NSAC was in on the conspiracy too. They refused to test for gypsy voodoo and white privilege after the fight.

Did Breeland file a complaint with his union reps ?

If you don't think he's got the ultimate yes man training him, you are tripping balls. Breland got slandered and preposterously accused. He has every right to sue Wilder for defamation of character. Wilder is damn lucky he had Breland or he could have been seriously injured. I'm all for Fury cleaning his clock again. Let him stay in there until the ref stops it. No one really cares and outside of Vernon Forrest who has Mark trained. There are people from Queens, the Bronx and Manhattan who really don't think that highly of Mark and that was before Wilder canned him. And if Breland couldn't reach him leave, as you and he said Wilder acted like a toddler so you knew the first thing that goes wrong it's going to be bad, secondly Mark didn't have a repertoire with Wilder so if he couldn't teach he became as useless as Jay Deas without being the one who "discovered" Wilder. All of this Mark Breland defending is doing though is showing Breland is as average as people thought during Vernon Forrest time and that Wilder was a circus throughout his career which is funny because it should've made news but again shows why the American media had no faith in him actually winning the belt and cared little when he did win.

Wilder has a right to accuse who ever he wants. He has the right to sack who ever he wants. If he feels Breland working against him it’s better for both of them to part ways. Don’t sit around bitching about how u got sacked by your employer go find a new job. Your new employer not going to like the fact you trash talked your old boss either. I see it as Breland is waste of space in camp full of yes men. It’s better for him to go train someone who actually listens to him. If you don't think he's got the ultimate yes man training him, you are tripping balls. Breland got slandered and preposterously accused. He has every right to sue Wilder for defamation of character. Wilder is damn lucky he had Breland or he could have been seriously injured. I'm all for Fury cleaning his clock again. Let him stay in there until the ref stops it.

I don't think it does. I addressed Wilder being an excuse factory in the post you responded to. I'm struggling to figure out what you think you brought to this conversation. Yes you did address Wilder being an excuse factory and you implied that this was the reason why people who didn't give a shit about Breland have become Breland fans. One of Wilders excuses is that Breland was a snake in the grass who drugged his water and threw in the towel at a point in the fight when Fury was starting to run out of steam. Those allegations are both ludicrous and extremely unfair to Breland, which is why people are slaughtering Wilder and backing Breland's decision to throw in the towel. The condemnation of Wilder and the backing of Breland are therefore inextricably linked. Do you get it now?

Does this address what I said? You claimed that people who didn't give a shit about Mark Breland have become Breland fans since Wilder fired him, and also that people who said Breland should be fired have criticised Wilder for firing him. My reply to you addresses both those points.

You think Breland was the only one who got a raw deal? Imagine Jack Reiss and Kenny Bayless? Called drunk and the other bias because he "Administered a long count".... Do you know how many people he threw under the bus for his fights with Fury? The commission, the costume makers, Andre dirrell etc... Am surprised no one actually interviewed Dirrell since that fight to get his take on his name being brought into it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMhaDTqZE44

:lol1: Everyone's a Breland fan after Wilder fires him :lol1: Bet you don't have a single post, bet none of you have a single post, in your post history that has anything to do with Breland but nothing to do with Wilder. Bet youse have got plenty of posts about how Wilder needs to fire his trainer before he did it. Mark Breland had trained how many champions before Wilder? And Since? Last I heard he was picked up by a Charlo or some **** like that. Doubled his roster huh? So, in reality Mark Breland is a guy youse didn't give any ****s about because he'd done **** all but have a mediocre career after being part of America's greatest Olympic team...you know, did not live up to his hype, then became a trainer and trained no one, lucked out with a guy who became champion regardless of anything Mark brought to the table, got carried by that man long into his career despite Mark bringing nothing for him, got criticized endlessly because it was obvious Mark brought nothing for Wilder, then y'all didn't like Wilder's excuse making factory and now Mark Breland is a boxing hero Y'all can circlejerk one another but can't change your stripes this late in the game.You are full of ****. Wilder didn't just sack Breland though, he accused him of treachery and made him a scapegoat for Deontay's own shortcomings as a fighter. Whatever anybody thinks of his merits as a trainer, Breland was the only one in that corner who had the balls and compassion to do what needed doing.

:lol1: I been stirring ****, 100% inspired by you. These cats are boring mother ****ers. Sometimes someone's got to stir the **** just to make the forum more interesting for everyone. It's like a service or something. You should get a medal. eep..........