Dillian Whyte is ducking Charles Martin.

Riiiiiight so fighting AJ would make him 30 times more than what he would make on Triller. You know this. So what happened then? The guy who fought Usyk, Bakole and Povetkin was deathly afraid of Hrgovic and ducked, right?

Whyte don’t want that smoke. Who cares about either of these losers.

True but this was his shot to go straight to a title fight. That's what he's been barking about this whole time. Now he gets it, amd instead he ducks and goes to Triller to fight a cruiserweight bum? AMD then he tries to make it look like something other than a duck? Nah man. Yeah, man. The guy got a multi fight deal. These guys fight for money. He should be looking for someone to give him a career just like the rest of the world does.

Hearn did well not to sign him. He is a guy who talks it, but doesn't walk it. I don't want to ever hear him open his mouth about not getting big fights again. If he beat Hrgovic then he would have made 20 times that amount fighting AJ for all those belts. Talks it but doesn't walk it? He fought Usyk, Povetkin and took Bakole and Kuzmin's 0's. Dude's walked it a lot more than most in the division.

I was thinking the same thing. I know I would be rooting for Martin if they fought.

Yes he has a multi fight deal to be on the under cards of fights that will not lead him to a belt or a bigger fight. He also slid down in the ratings after he ducked. So yes, he ducked. At this point, he will never land a title fight or even a big money fight. He will stay right where he belongs. On the under card fighting a bum. He's headlining at the Hulu theater at MSG against a bum in a WBA eliminator. 4 more fights with Triller after that for actual money. Eddie should have resigned him maybe...

...and the deal is starting off on a bad note (from our perspective). Hunter's next opponent is arguably worse than Whyte's next opponent. The Triller deal is nothing more than a cash grab for the Bounty Hunter. Can't say I disagree. :dunno:

Hunter "ducked" by getting a multi fight deal with Triller. ...and the deal is starting off on a bad note (from our perspective). Hunter's next opponent is arguably worse than Whyte's next opponent. The Triller deal is nothing more than a cash grab for the Bounty Hunter.

Yes, Hunter did a full duck and now it looks like the entire rest of the IBF top 15 is ducking Hrgovic. Including Ruiz, Ortiz, Parker and a few others. This is why I can not support most of the heavyweights today. They are all talk and no action. This would be a perfect opportunity for someone like Ortiz or Ruiz to get a direct shot at the title again but they are ducking the opportunity. It's pathetic. And Ruiz has already had a tune up so he couldn't say that was the problem. These guys all want the easiest path to a belt, while asking for props too. It's pure cowardice. So Martin should reeeeally shut his mouth right now Hunter "ducked" by getting a multi fight deal with Triller.

I think whyte would KO him brutally, though

Charles Martin ducked Hrgovic for IBF eliminator.

He who? Martin? Uuummm, check again. Hes the #1 rated guy. Hrgovic is #3. #2 is Usyk, who is fighting AJ next. Hrgovic is offering a straight shot at the belt and none of these guys want to take him up on it. Yet guys like Martin will sit here and call out Whyte. He, Dillian Whyte, is not ranked by the IBF. I misread you were asking about. Originally, it was supposed to be Hunter vs Martin as the eliminator before it all got weird. I'm not sure who they can get to fight Filip.

Whyte is not ducking Martin. Martin just wants that DAZN money. That's it. Also, why is Martin not fighting Hrgovic for the chance to fight AJ? Can anyone answer that one? He's not ranked by the IBF for starters...

Whyte is a conman just like his promoter Eddie. Every one of his best wins is controversial, favourable refereeing, judging and drug cheating as well as glove tampering.

Povetkin never had covid. That was made up. He had pics of himself dancing with his wife and then took them all down not long after the diagnosis. i believe he just took his time..and i even believe that he was totally fine in the lead up to the fine, walking normal, until the final ring walk. To me that suggests the guy was either spiked OR he was just putting on an act to excuse the incoming loss. don't ever underestimate povetkin's mind games. whyte tried to force the fight for a november date...povetkin just had to pull the covid excuse. whyte did certainly dominate povetkin until that punch...he was the unlucky one, he wasnt 'lucky to beat povetkin'. The parker fight wasnt whyte fighting dirty...that literally was down to parker's own tactic of literally barging into a perfectly timed clinch at every opportunity. go and watch that fight again and pay attention to the way parker went in looking to clinch and ended up catching his head on whyte's head. Still, Parker, even now is an elite fighter and beat Ruiz, so by no means can you dismiss Whyte's acheivement of beating him. Chisora is improved from his younger days due to his experience. He used to be erratic and go head hunting when he was younger which is why he got knocked out by Haye. Notice the moment chisora went head hunting when he was down 2 points, he got countered and dropped hard? whyte is similar in that respect, he is wreckless too. Whyte will certainly fight ruiz/wilder/ortiz if the fights are available and both sides do it properly. i dont like ortiz, the way he always calls out guys when he knows they're signed to a fight already. Idk what the plan is there..and i dont trust the pbc would even attempt it. think about it...if wilder loses to fury..then he will fight ruiz before calling it quits. ruiz would fight ortiz and wilder first in whatever order. Ortiz would prob just end up fighting Arreola or some thing like that. i wouldnt even mind if ortiz fought someone like daniel dubois if al felt it was better to work with frank warren. i just cant see pbc doing matchroom any favours in making fights. Whyte only won against Parker because that headbutt was counted as a kd. It would have been a draw had it not. And he did fight dirty. Even the biased sky commentary had to acknowledge and make excuses for it. You didn't understand my post. You can rate those wins as highly as you want and deny Povetkin having covid but it doesn't change that Whyte almost lost to Parker and Chisora with favorable reffing and got slept by Sasha Povetkin. He knows he can lose to anyone in the top 10-15 and that includes Martin. That's why Whyte is scraping the bottom of the barrel to fight Franklin. He doesn't want to ruin the big potential payday. I don't fault him for it either since its the smart thing to do.

Exactly, and Martin's been performing better in his last few bouts, plus he is big enough that Whyte won't be able to clinch & grapple his way to a win. I could definitely see Martin knocking Whyte out. 50/50 fight IMO.

Charles Martin doesn't deserve another payday Even if Whyte fights a worse fighters it's not a duck

Who cares, both these guys suck

Pity, I think it would be a good scrap. Probably would be a competitive fight. It isn't as if only one of the guys involved isn't very good.

I think Whyte is pretty smart and self aware. He's biding his time now because he knows that anyone in the top 10 (ruiz,ortiz, wallin etc) poses a real threat that could destroy a potential payday. I figure he knows that a Joshua ppv in the UK will be there if he doesn't lose again and if Joshua beats Usyk. Whyte is probably aware of just how much luck(along with some favoritism) he's had to get to the point he's in. Fought dirty against Parker and scraped by with a razor thin decision. Was on his way to losing to Chisora before he knocked him out. He was incredibly lucky that Povetkin got covid. If he lost that rematch he would be ****ed. Personally I think a ppv Joshua rematch in the UK in the first half of 2022 is there to be made and I think that's what Whyte is waiting for. Povetkin never had covid. That was made up. He had pics of himself dancing with his wife and then took them all down not long after the diagnosis. i believe he just took his time..and i even believe that he was totally fine in the lead up to the fine, walking normal, until the final ring walk. To me that suggests the guy was either spiked OR he was just putting on an act to excuse the incoming loss. don't ever underestimate povetkin's mind games. whyte tried to force the fight for a november date...povetkin just had to pull the covid excuse. whyte did certainly dominate povetkin until that punch...he was the unlucky one, he wasnt 'lucky to beat povetkin'. The parker fight wasnt whyte fighting dirty...that literally was down to parker's own tactic of literally barging into a perfectly timed clinch at every opportunity. go and watch that fight again and pay attention to the way parker went in looking to clinch and ended up catching his head on whyte's head. Still, Parker, even now is an elite fighter and beat Ruiz, so by no means can you dismiss Whyte's acheivement of beating him. Chisora is improved from his younger days due to his experience. He used to be erratic and go head hunting when he was younger which is why he got knocked out by Haye. Notice the moment chisora went head hunting when he was down 2 points, he got countered and dropped hard? whyte is similar in that respect, he is wreckless too. Whyte will certainly fight ruiz/wilder/ortiz if the fights are available and both sides do it properly. i dont like ortiz, the way he always calls out guys when he knows they're signed to a fight already. Idk what the plan is there..and i dont trust the pbc would even attempt it. think about it...if wilder loses to fury..then he will fight ruiz before calling it quits. ruiz would fight ortiz and wilder first in whatever order. Ortiz would prob just end up fighting Arreola or some thing like that. i wouldnt even mind if ortiz fought someone like daniel dubois if al felt it was better to work with frank warren. i just cant see pbc doing matchroom any favours in making fights.