DAZN trying to make Golovkin-Andrade?

At 168 there’s only really Canelo though. At least at 160 there’s potential fights with GGG, Charlo, Murata Derevyanchenko etc. They’ll probably never happen though. :lol1: I’ve given up on Andrade tbh, I was massively on the hype train back in 2012/13 but it’s been 8 years and we’re still waiting for him to fight somebody. Not saying that’s totally his fault but he has to take some responsibility for his own career. Hopefully DAZN find a way to make GGG-Andrade happen this summer but I’m not holding my breath… I agree with that, which means he should be willing to make concessions if he wants to make the fights you mentioned. DAZN should definitely get a GGG-Andrade unification if that’s what they want since they are the ones writing the checks.

That's cool. I just don't think Golovkin cares about his own career anymore. He doesn’t, I’m a massive GGG fan but I don’t disagree with you whatsoever. He just wants the big money fights at this point. I feel like being f***ed around by Canelo has made him resentful about giving B side guys the opportunity. Reminds me of Froch not wanting to give Groves an opportunity because Calzaghe didn’t give him one when he was younger guy on the way up.

I just see GGG timing him. Although I wouldn’t rule out Andrade winning, he’s definitely a big underdog in that fight IMO. That's cool. I just don't think Golovkin cares about his own career anymore.

I could agree if you said that Andrade should move to 168, especially since that’s where Canelo the cash cow is campaigning. I don’t think that the difference in purses for certain weight classes is unfair because that has to do with market value. I’m simply saying that if none of the other top guys at 160-168 are expected to face Beterbiev at 175 then Andrade shouldn’t either. Long story short, I’m onboard with Andrade possibility moving to 168 for additional opportunities but not necessarily 175. At 168 there’s only really Canelo though. At least at 160 there’s potential fights with GGG, Charlo, Murata Derevyanchenko etc. They’ll probably never happen though. :lol1: I’ve given up on Andrade tbh, I was massively on the hype train back in 2012/13 but it’s been 8 years and we’re still waiting for him to fight somebody. Not saying that’s totally his fault but he has to take some responsibility for his own career. Hopefully DAZN find a way to make GGG-Andrade happen this summer but I’m not holding my breath…

It'd be nice if some of these guys shared your confidence I just see GGG timing him. Although I wouldn’t rule out Andrade winning, he’s definitely a big underdog in that fight IMO.

I don’t follow fighter’s purses too closely, however I do believe in negotiating for whatever you think is fair and my point is that both sides should be working to make the best fights happen. As for Andrade specifically, he has to decide whether he is content with being the A-side against B-level opponents, or if he is willing to sacrifice to get an elite opponent. Besides that it’s up to DAZN to work with said elite opponents (like GGG) to make the fight a reality. Yeah I agree man. Good post.

I like Andrade. He’s one of my favourite boxing personalities. Would be nice to see him against GGG.

Don't know the point of this thread. Andrade: I Looked Forward To Fighting Golovkin At One Point; Not Anymore https://www.boxingscene.com/andrade-...nymore--148803

It’s also “Unfair” that Andrade has made millions of dollars fighting bums while guys in the lower weight classes put on FOTY battles for 200k, but it is what it is and “fair” has nothing to do with it. Golovkin and Canelo have bigger and better options and that’s where they’re gonna go. They don’t care about his title, they have plenty. Fair doesn’t come into play. There’s a better chance of the Charlo fight getting made as Charlo flush with options and isn’t as big a draw, but if PBC is gonna keep paying him to fight nobodies Andrade is going to have to decided to make a move up or stay in obscurity. I could agree if you said that Andrade should move to 168, especially since that’s where Canelo the cash cow is campaigning. I don’t think that the difference in purses for certain weight classes is unfair because that has to do with market value. I’m simply saying that if none of the other top guys at 160-168 are expected to face Beterbiev at 175 then Andrade shouldn’t either. Long story short, I’m onboard with Andrade possibility moving to 168 for additional opportunities but not necessarily 175.

No way he’d take that- not that he should either, but he’s turned down Jermell and Korobov in the past based on purse demands. Andrade wants heavily compensating for a tough or risky fight. Didn’t he get like 1.5m for fighting Keeler. I assume he’d want around 3m for GGG. I think DAZN could pay that too if they really wanted to make the fight. I don’t follow fighter’s purses too closely, however I do believe in negotiating for whatever you think is fair and my point is that both sides should be working to make the best fights happen. As for Andrade specifically, he has to decide whether he is content with being the A-side against B-level opponents, or if he is willing to sacrifice to get an elite opponent. Besides that it’s up to DAZN to work with said elite opponents (like GGG) to make the fight a reality.

Possibly… but isn’t he planning on fighting in August anyway. Against Falcao or somebody like that. I actually think GGG knocks Andrade out, I don’t think it’s that difficult a fight for him tbh. Providing he’s already in camp I think he could deal with Andrade and still be ready to face Murata in December. It'd be nice if some of these guys shared your confidence

Also, its unfair to ask Andrade specifically to move up two divisions when no one else is expected to. Canelo fought at 175 but that was a one-time lucrative and calculated risk. It’s also “Unfair” that Andrade has made millions of dollars fighting bums while guys in the lower weight classes put on FOTY battles for 200k, but it is what it is and “fair” has nothing to do with it. Golovkin and Canelo have bigger and better options and that’s where they’re gonna go. They don’t care about his title, they have plenty. Fair doesn’t come into play. There’s a better chance of the Charlo fight getting made as Charlo flush with options and isn’t as big a draw, but if PBC is gonna keep paying him to fight nobodies Andrade is going to have to decided to make a move up or stay in obscurity.

It's already almost July; the December fight with Murata is six months away. Two full camps to fight top-shelf opponents back to back in, what, a 3 month time span? Not realistic for Golovkin at his age. Possibly… but isn’t he planning on fighting in August anyway. Against Falcao or somebody like that. I actually think GGG knocks Andrade out, I don’t think it’s that difficult a fight for him tbh. Providing he’s already in camp I think he could deal with Andrade and still be ready to face Murata in December.

The only way we would know that for sure is if they actually make an offer. Perhaps he would take less to secure the big opportunity that has eluded him so far. Only one way to find out... No way he’d take that- not that he should either, but he’s turned down Jermell and Korobov in the past based on purse demands. Andrade wants heavily compensating for a tough or risky fight. Didn’t he get like 1.5m for fighting Keeler. I assume he’d want around 3m for GGG. I think DAZN could pay that too if they really wanted to make the fight.

Sergio Martinez had the interim title at 154 and, knowing the WBC wasnt going to enforce his shot and that Chavez Jr wasn't going to fight him, moved up in weight and fought the most avoided man in boxing for like $300k. The same amount of money Andrade turned down to fight Charlo back when he didn't have a title. 175 is pretty thin, I'm sure Beterbiev would give Andrade a shot. Martinez and Williams were both former 154 lb. titlists and they met at 160. Yes, we know Andrade shouldn’t have turned down the Charlo fight but how long are we gonna use something that happened in 2014 as an excuse for 2021? Also, its unfair to ask Andrade specifically to move up two divisions when no one else is expected to. Canelo fought at 175 but that was a one-time lucrative and calculated risk.

They're going to pay less for a unification? That's kind of the point - they wanted GGG to get a belt, so they let him fight Derevy and paid Derevy well. They wanted the belt for GGG so he had something to offer Canelo. The 2 GGG-Canelo fights = big business. Every other fight for GGG, he isn't really a superstar. And GGG-Andrade would surely lose money if both guys were paid what they wanted/have been paid recently, especially for a unification. I'd love to see it, though.

Sergio Martinez was only able to “earn” his big opportunity because guys like Paul Williams and Kelly Pavlik were willing to face him. Andrade has a title so why should he have to beg other champions to unify? Why should he have to beg his #1 contender Jaime Munguia to take a shot at his belt? Sergio Martinez had the interim title at 154 and, knowing the WBC wasnt going to enforce his shot and that Chavez Jr wasn't going to fight him, moved up in weight and fought the most avoided man in boxing for like $300k. The same amount of money Andrade turned down to fight Charlo back when he didn't have a title. 175 is pretty thin, I'm sure Beterbiev would give Andrade a shot.

Andrade would want paying significantly more than them two though. There’s no way Andrade would face GGG for the 300k Rolls got. The only way we would know that for sure is if they actually make an offer. Perhaps he would take less to secure the big opportunity that has eluded him so far. Only one way to find out...

Yes exactly. The problem is Andrade. Andrade can take risks and earn a fight with a big name like Sergio Martinez did, or he can spend all day crying to the media about how no one will hand him an opportunity like Vanes Martirosyan did. It's up to him. Sergio Martinez was only able to “earn” his big opportunity because guys like Paul Williams and Kelly Pavlik were willing to face him. Andrade has a title so why should he have to beg other champions to unify? Why should he have to beg his #1 contender Jaime Munguia to take a shot at his belt?

If that’s true, GGG should be in a dispute with DAZN. Anyone trying to force a Demtrius Andrade fight on any boxer does not have that boxer’s best interest at heart. There isn’t a single positive thing that can come out of fighting Andrade for any boxer alive. That’s a convenient excuse, along with saying that the WBO belt doesn’t mean anything. Of course that would change if someone like Jaime Munguia held the title but unifying belts was positive last time I checked.