When Bud thought the very dangerous Kava he showed us all why hes p4p and should get 50/50 in a spence fight
Trust me Kava will knock Ortiz out which will give us all Bud/Kava 2
When Bud thought the very dangerous Kava he showed us all why hes p4p and should get 50/50 in a spence fight
Trust me Kava will knock Ortiz out which will give us all Bud/Kava 2
I'm having a bad day and needed a good laugh and you have provided it, thank you. Why in the hell would Spence ever agree to a 50/50 fight with Crawford when he brings in at least 75% of the revenue?
I disagree.
I would definitely pick Porter over “Mean Machine”.
I believe I would pick Ugas over “Mean Machine”.
I believe Thurman is shot so I would call that fight a draw.
word on the streets is that Kavilaskus beat Thurman in sparring and they had to stop it
word on the streets is that I beat King Kong in sparring and they had to stop it
Kavilkus cant even beat Robinson, a guy Porter beat on his way up, when he was like 12-0 or something. Lets be serious. Kavilkus is barely a top 20 welter, IF THAT.
word on the streets is that Kavilaskus beat Thurman in sparring and they had to stop it
Kavilkus cant even beat Robinson, a guy Porter beat on his way up, when he was like 12-0 or something. Lets be serious. Kavilkus is barely a top 20 welter, IF THAT.
The Crawford hate is definitely over the top but we don't need to do this.
Mean Machine is likely fighting Ortiz Jr so let's see how that fight goes. But we have seen Mean Machine in action plenty of times, and he's not a top WW. Looked great disposing of Aveneysan but that's really the only time he's looked top level. Got a draw vs Robinson who is solid but just that.
I remember Porter in the come up looked like sht against some lanky ass black guy. Was that Robinson?
Regardless. Porter beats Kava since I believe his stamina to be his main weakness. Far too much muscle mass.
Porter did beat Robinson, but it was a close fight. I'd say yeah that was likely the fight you're thinking. I can find video of the preview for the fight, but not the fight itself lol. Was on Shobox though,
I remember Porter in the come up looked like sht against some lanky ass black guy. Was that Robinson?
Regardless. Porter beats Kava since I believe his stamina to be his main weakness. Far too much muscle mass.
I thought he got robbed against Kelly as well. Robinson is one of those guys that will test any prospect and show their flaws.
Same here… that fight really exposed Kelly. The fact they never made the rematch spoke volumes.
How is Ray a journeymen? both his draws should be wins, and two of his three losses are to Ugas and Shawn Porter. his record isn't a bad one.
Yeah bad choice of words maybe Dangerous Gatekeeper probably a better way to describe him, I like Ray so no disrespect to him, he is probably having trouble getting fights after both Josh Kelly and Mean Machine in which Promoters seen that he is just too dangerous to put a Prospect in with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG8phCYmrA4
NO! He lost to Journeyman Ray Robinson but they saved his 0 with a Draw. Give me Thurman, Porter and Ugas over Mean Machine Convincingly. Now to be fair I do think Mean Machine is a solid fighter and has improved since this fight and he is a Top 10 Welterweight but NO he is not beating any of the Top Tier Welterweights
How is Ray a journeymen? both his draws should be wins, and two of his three losses are to Ugas and Shawn Porter. his record isn't a bad one.
In all honesty, Ray was robbed against Kavaliauskas too.
I thought he got robbed against Kelly as well. Robinson is one of those guys that will test any prospect and show their flaws.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG8phCYmrA4
NO! He lost to Journeyman Ray Robinson but they saved his 0 with a Draw. Give me Thurman, Porter and Ugas over Mean Machine Convincingly. Now to be fair I do think Mean Machine is a solid fighter and has improved since this fight and he is a Top 10 Welterweight but NO he is not beating any of the Top Tier Welterweights
Troll thread??
Not at all bro.
Bud faced a VERY dangerous fighter that's up their with all the top 5 Welters atm but gets no respect for taking out such a hard technical fighter.
Abit of Bias regarding Bud imo.
I guess. :dunno:
We saw Kavaliauskas' ceiling and that wasn't the first time. If somebody plants their feet Kava has the power to get them out of there like he did with Avanesyan but the guys you mentioned won't do that. He might have gotten a knockdown against Bud but that was because Crawford wanted to channel The Marvelous One that night. Kava is a fun fighter but maybe he's just more of a tough guy than a boxer.
That's the difference I see compared to you.
I see a strong fighter that can get into great positions using his lead control plus getting in and off the line.
Hes definitely not just a straight up and down fighter.
He has technique and knows body mechanics to get into positions to hurt people.