I was rooting for Linares but Jesus Christ guys. If Haney had gone out there and fought like Demetrius Andrade you guys would have been busting his balls about how unwatchable he is (and would be right to do so). Instead he going out there with bad intentions, tried to get the stoppage and gave the fans a show. Linares came in the shape of his life and was able to weather the storm.... Haney got rocked going for the KO but so what? Would you have rather he spent the whole fight jabbing or in a wide stance fighting a negative-ass, unwatchable 12 rounds? GTFO. Linares caught him with a good one but overall Haney beat the dog shit out of Linares and showed a lot of skill.
Linares is a huge puncher for the weight and clipped Lomachenko as well. Is Loma a fraud? Come on.
All these threads and I'm not seeing one post about the fact that it was a damned good fight. You guys are just out here praying Haney fails.
FICKLE is the perfect way of describing Boxing Fans! You see it daily on this Forum how fans just flip flop and set standards based on if the like the fighter or not
If you're a Boxer, Like Mayweather do what YOU WANT in and outside of the ring and not WTF you think Boxing Fans want because what some of us want changes so much that it is just IMPOSSIBLE to please Boxing Fans! Target New Fans instead of trying to please or appeal to Old Hardcore Boxing Fans with our unrealistic and constantly changing Expectations...
If a Fighter Box and Hit and Not Get Hit: "BORING! He Should Stand And Trade More..."
If he stands and trade more: "His Defense Is Terrible He Should Use The Ring And Move His Head More..."
If he schools his opponents and put on a master class Boxing lesson: "He Didn't Get The Knockout He Has No Power"
If he scores the knockout: "Well He Was Losing Before He Scored The Knockout, If he Didn't get the KO he would've lost"
If he puts on a Master Class and Gets The KO: "Well He Wasn't Fighting Anybody!" "He Is On PED's" "Fight Is Fixed"
So yeah Boxing Fans are impossible to please so it would be wise for Fighters not to try. Instead Market yourself to and try to win over and build up and bring NEW FANS to the sport. You don't NEED the Approval of us Hardcore Boxing Fans to become a Draw and the Paul Brothers are Primary PROOF of that!
I am pointing out your hypocrisy, you imbecile.
Someone tells you to shut, and your response is to call them an e thug whilst talking about how you would put hands on them.
Telling you to shut up is not a threat. Talking about how you would break my arm and all that tough **** are claims that you don't have to honour online, something an e-thug would say.
You want to dismiss me as an e-thug, it would hold more weight is you didn't present yourself as one.
I came at you with disrespect because you're an idiot. Your hypocrisy is consistent. Giving Lopez a free pass. Giving yourself a free pass to play the role of tough guy when you know you won't be expected to make good on your claims.
Hush child.
Already did my part. You know what to do.
I'm not about to bicker on god damn forums. Foh :lol1:
I'm not making this sh/t public. I'm a grown ass man. Put up or stfu.
Yawn. Last poster was talking even more reckless than you. When we met, he was all smiles, "all in good fun", handshaking.
You're about as tough as Haney looked in rounds 10-12 :lol1:
Go on now. Go to your local boxing gym and pick a fight in there. You're in the wrong place for all that chest pumping and tough guy talk. No one can harm you here and you know that lol.
Get a grip and grow up already.
I'm done talking to you about boxing. You came at me with disrespect from the start, this stopped being about boxing in that moment. I'd tell you to let me put my threats to the test but you're not about that. You can act like you are, but you're not.
I am pointing out your hypocrisy, you imbecile.
Someone tells you to shut, and your response is to call them an e thug whilst talking about how you would put hands on them.
Telling you to shut up is not a threat. Talking about how you would break my arm and all that tough shit are claims that you don't have to honour online, something an e-thug would say.
You want to dismiss me as an e-thug, it would hold more weight is you didn't present yourself as one.
I came at you with disrespect because you're an idiot. Your hypocrisy is consistent. Giving Lopez a free pass. Giving yourself a free pass to play the role of tough guy when you know you won't be expected to make good on your claims.
Hush child.
Nothing thuggish about telling a clown to **** up. E-thugging is making threats that won't get put to test.
I also don't think you know how credible arguments are formed. How does you not giving Lopez a chance against Loma support your credibility? You're inadvertently proving that his fights before then didn't establish him a top notch fight. If they were as valuable as you're making them out to he, you wouldn't have predicted a wash out.
He is good fighter who needs to prove that he is great. So far he is ahead of the pack, but not so far ahead that he can dismiss their challenges as "They need to do more."
The problem with this era is young fighters taking this approach the moment they get one marquee win. Suddenly getting obsessed with that A side, B side bull****.
Yawn. Last poster was talking even more reckless than you. When we met, he was all smiles, "all in good fun", handshaking.
You're about as tough as Haney looked in rounds 10-12 :lol1:
Go on now. Go to your local boxing gym and pick a fight in there. You're in the wrong place for all that chest pumping and tough guy talk. No one can harm you here and you know that lol.
Get a grip and grow up already.
I'm done talking to you about boxing. You came at me with disrespect from the start, this stopped being about boxing in that moment. I'd tell you to let me put my threats to the test but you're not about that. You can act like you are, but you're not.
Look e-thug. Go back and look up Lomachenko vs Lopez threads, I was giving Lopez 0 chance and predicted he'd be humiliated and ruined. So i'm not sure where all this crap about me being biased is coming from. You're coming out of left field getting all emotional over poster's opinions of fighters.
You're not a damn kid, stop picking fights against forum members you don't agree with on the internet. If I was 16 like I was when I started posting here, I would have been all about challenging you to a fight. At this point, I am a 30+ year old county sheriff's deputy who does IT work on days off and post here for fun. My job consists of dealing with murderers, burglars and rapists already, and confronting that on a daily basis. So you can go on with your internet thuggery. You do not know how silly you look trying to be tough against me on the internet. Lol, you tell me to shut up or that i'm gurgling another's man, dude i'll grab you and break your arm then you will sue me and cry that you're a victim of police brutality. So go somewhere else with all that.
Nothing thuggish about telling a clown to shit up. E-thugging is making threats that won't get put to test.
I also don't think you know how credible arguments are formed. How does you not giving Lopez a chance against Loma support your credibility? You're inadvertently proving that his fights before then didn't establish him a top notch fight. If they were as valuable as you're making them out to he, you wouldn't have predicted a wash out.
He is good fighter who needs to prove that he is great. So far he is ahead of the pack, but not so far ahead that he can dismiss their challenges as "They need to do more."
The problem with this era is young fighters taking this approach the moment they get one marquee win. Suddenly getting obsessed with that A side, B side bullshit.
The last 2 rounds he unraveled. That was the opposite of what I thought I would see against the older Linares. Haney’s defense really isn’t very good, he’s got great reflexes so he mostly gets away with it but he’s going to get tagged. If he can’t recover, like he couldn’t recover last night he’s got real problems as the competition gets tougher.
telling it like I see it doesn’t make me a bad fan. To the contrary, being a cheerleader or a hater, then pretending to see what I want to see would make me a bad fan.
TL;DR: Haney is a fake champion that is being shoved down fans throats and they don't like it so they express their displeasure of this weak paper champion through social media/forums.
Canelo was handed a vacant title on silver platter by the WBC and still looked like shit winning it. He was then handed a string a pathetic showcase title defenses against Rhodes, a million year old Cintron and Alfonso fucking Gomez.
These days, he's considered a pretty damn credible champion in my opinion.
TLDR: Haney's win over Linares makes him a far more credible champion than than p4p #1 was at this point in his career. It's early days for Lopez, Haney and Garcia and none of us knows what the future holds for them.
That's what I don't get. We've seen a lot of guys get elevated before so this is nothing new. The response here is crazy.. Anyway, Haney can really box beautifully at times. I don't really care who people like more between the lightweights but that's really where the majority of the backlash comes from. It's just emotional involvement.
Yeah this. PBC, Top Rank and DAZN all want to keep their top fighters off of each other's networks so the WBC is just creating new titles left and right. The reason its being allowed to happen is that ALL OF THE BIG PROMOTERS ARE FINE WITH IT. Arum and Hearn may mouth off to the press about the injustice, but the fact is none of them want to enter a purse bid situation where one of their stars has to drop a belt or fight across the street. Look at how Arum reacted to Hearn bidding on Lopez-Kambosis!
The guys in charge can do PR and talk all the shit they want to the press, but no manager or promoter is going to let Lopez, Haney, or Garcia fight one another yet. These guys are all potential superstars and they're all going to be guided to make the long play to those superfights.
Haney went in the fight with bad intentions but didnt do himself any favors by the way it all ended up. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Haney is full of talent but he doesnt have that killer in him. He is better of just being a boxer and I'd respect him more.
Thought it was a good fight, Haney looks really sharp early, I thought it was obvious he came in trying to make a statement and it almost cost him.
Linares may have dropped Loma, but IMO that was way more of a flash knock down which Loma walked into and didn't really rock him at all, whereas Haney was near the edge, if it wasn't on the bell Haney looked to be getting dropped or worse. Plus his ability to recover or maintain control while hurt was shown as pretty average.
Not sure where the hate is coming from though unless its just partisan BS, he was going for the finish instead of playing it safe and didn't quit, its not like the WBC situation is his fault, blame WBC & TR for that if anyone. Haney definitely has some things to work on, though he's not alone there either, Ryan got dropped by Campbell, Teo got outclassed and looked vulnerable when Loma actually started throwing punches, thats OK too, makes it exciting.
You say the same thing over and over like some weird malfunctioning robot that doesn't know it's short circuiting.
Hard to watch, har* to bzzt, hard to wa*&(, hard to watzzt,, hard to watch, h*!d to w@tch. LMAO
you sound like you're having a breakdown
Get out there and pound the pavement then. A job isn't going to fall into your lap. Brush your teeth, your breath stinks like Tender Vittles lmao.
I've never felt so embarrassed for someone on here. Hard to watch man. I can only imagine how much of a loser you are in real life lol Get some help buddy.
Lmao since last night Linares is some monster puncher. He’s a decent puncher for the weight but DAZN and haney fans are making it seem like he’s a KO machine
lol , i think people missed when linares said " give me a hug".
I like Haney. He was in a fight with a veteran.
Kid has balls.
Young humble young kid who can fight. He will only get better now.
Now he needs to keep fighting real opponents.
Man, shut up.
Do those wins set Lopez away from the pack? This is exactly what I am talking about. Because it is Lopez, you're over inflating the value of his victories.
The reality of the matter is wins over opponents of that level wasn't respect for the likes of Khan, Broner, Alexander etc.
He has one exceptional win and a few good wins. It isn't enough to put him ahead of the pack where his competitors need to prove that they deserve a shot.
Stop gurgling his juice and look at things objectively.
Look e-thug. Go back and look up Lomachenko vs Lopez threads, I was giving Lopez 0 chance and predicted he'd be humiliated and ruined. So i'm not sure where all this crap about me being biased is coming from. You're coming out of left field getting all emotional over poster's opinions of fighters.
You're not a damn kid, stop picking fights against forum members you don't agree with on the internet. If I was 16 like I was when I started posting here, I would have been all about challenging you to a fight. At this point, I am a 30+ year old county sheriff's deputy who does IT work on days off and post here for fun. My job consists of dealing with murderers, burglars and rapists already, and confronting that on a daily basis. So you can go on with your internet thuggery. You do not know how silly you look trying to be tough against me on the internet. Lol, you tell me to shut up or that i'm gurgling another's man, dude i'll grab you and break your arm then you will sue me and cry that you're a victim of police brutality. So go somewhere else with all that.
Man, shut up.
Do those wins set Lopez away from the pack? This is exactly what I am talking about. Because it is Lopez, you're over inflating the value of his victories.
The reality of the matter is wins over opponents of that level wasn't respect for the likes of Khan, Broner, Alexander etc.
He has one exceptional win and a few good wins. It isn't enough to put him ahead of the pack where his competitors need to prove that they deserve a shot.
Stop gurgling his juice and look at things objectively.
haneys resume wasnt even as good as kamobosas' until yesterday. you should look at things objectively. why would a guy who has beaten many top fighters fight a guy who has never even fought a top 10 opponent? because the guy who has never fought anyone talks a lot in the media? if lopez wanted to fight him then ok cool but he certainly wasnt missing out on anything by not fighting him. also kambosas offered him 4 million. haney offered him nothing. pretty easy decision no?
People get so emotional over this stuff . Haney a young, talented yet flawed fighter. Crazy part is the same is true of just about all the guys they root for too. Lopez probably looks the most complete but he has the lower ceiling for sure. They're all fun to watch. But this whinning and emotional outbreaks over whose the best don't mean shit. They need to fight. Period. Until they do, I really don't care who anyone thinks is the best.
Like you sucking on Borats Muslim dick ???
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No, but if I was I probably wouldn't criticize 22 year old fighters