he had his chance to get out and go play with the big welterweights name....he chose not to....this is what has become of former p4p kingpin terrence bud crawford
al haymon stays winning and getting things done for his guys....and this has to piss alot of people off....your hate and disdain for haymon(completely irrational btw) will not drive him out of the sport or stop him from being a power broker.....
think back to when pac beat thurman and the talk was that the next logical step was pac/spence.....it made so much sense then it seemed like it wasnt going to happen....it just makes/made too much sense looking back
if spence wins bud is going to be lucky if spence leaves him 3 slices of a large meatlovers pie....when u roll with haymon you just win....
if spence beat manny, crawford aint getting no 50/50.... if they cant agree to a 50/50 deal now, how you expect them to agree to it if spence beat manny? crawford will have to take way less and i see spence and haymon low balling crawford big time if spence comes out the winner over manny.
I mean Spence took the lower split to make the Pacquiao fight and if he beats him, then Crawford should have no problem doing the same. He's definitely not going to take less than 50/50 though, Trampler already has come out and said that.
This is the part of boxing that is hurting fans, fighters not wanting to fight because they are part of this network or that network, or because they bring no money to the table or one thinks they should get paid more than the other, fight to see who's the best, easy as that. Hopefully, Crawford doesn't look back and say I should've did this or that.
Do you think Spence is getting 50/50 vs Pacquiao or something? Highly unlikely, so if Crawford needs to take less vs Spence, then so be it. Who knows, he still may get the 50/50 split he wants, but in the mean time there are other fights for him. No need for him to just sit on the sidelines.
if spence beat manny, crawford aint getting no 50/50.... if they cant agree to a 50/50 deal now, how you expect them to agree to it if spence beat manny? crawford will have to take way less and i see spence and haymon low balling crawford big time if spence comes out the winner over manny.
Its not make believe when the fighters purses are reported publicly & are nothing special in any way yet they claim to be getting paid on side(its a known fact that Haymon buys them gifts & cars which aren't reported as purses)
(especially compared to Hearn fighters like Jacobs who earn way more)(Charlo was showing off"my 1st house I'm so proud of"(it looked like typical middle class household in Texas)
You can't sit here pretending Haymons guys are so well paid,then turn around & say "how do you know"(burden of proof is on you,you have based your assumption on something right?(because it surely isn't the publicly reported purses or net worth of His fighters)(ps I'm not a Haymon hater,I can care less what promoter a fighters with, I'm a fan of Spence & Mell,& Castano,& other Pbc fighters like Porter,I just don't think anyone can say"Haymon takes care of his fighters better in any way than otjer promoters" yet his fighters act like he speaks for them entirely)
you do realize that jacbos was advised by haymon to take a hearn deal because it was the best offer right? you realize it was haymon that was still advising him? haymon wouldnt stand in anyone fighters way if there was a great deal on the table for them ........look no further than the wilder/DAZN stuff.....once wilder had a sitdown and they offered him that 100 mil haymon knew what he had to do...he had to start coming up with big money for wilder fights....like D breazeale..wilder got paid a ridic amount and it was too much but thats what you have to do to keep someone
im glad that charlos house looked average...again...you dont know what else hes doign with his money...is he taking care of his mother....is he taking care of his girls parents? does he own businesses...have rental properties...commercial etc? haymons guys love him and love the money/deals they have...if they didnt theyd leave....its not a cult........the bottom line if haymon doesnt produce his guys will bounce and not be happy
if haymon had wilder turn down a big DAZN deal and then didnt come up with the same kind of money for wilder the word would have gotten around and nobody would be focking with al...nobody would wanna sign with him or stay with him.....but they dont leave...they love it...and when someone came up with "too good to be true" money for jacobs haymon says "hell ya go for it...i prob cant match that"....its not good business for anyone to be focking people out of money or having them turn down better deals to stay for less money.....thats how guys leave and the word spreads amongst the fighters..........haymon hasnt had the oscar/king ry/canelo beefs in public over money and stuff....he hasnt had the arum/mikey/bud spats over that...it literally never happens...i think i once saw some C level fighters say he was leaving cause he couldnt get any dates once with haymon...thats about it
He ain't getting those fights anymore.
If Spence wins, which he probably will, Spence will have a huge advantage in negotiations. If the fight was tough to make now, it's going to be even tougher later. Unless Crawford just accepts whatever's offered to him.
if spence beat manny, this is crawford's only chance to get back into the mix... crawford will never be able to catch up to spence if spence beat manny the way he is acting now. he will have to beg over and take less or the fight will never happen and spence will continue on to go and make bigger fights coming off the win over manny while crawford will just keep getting stuck fighting no namers.
bro...who said anything about taking "Cars as gifts"....for all i know they are buying the cars(or maybe leasing them) with the money haymon gets them.......
some of you guys just cant cope with how well haymons fighters like him and are happy with him.......oh someone zillowed charlo? like IGAF....how do you know thats the only house charlo owns? are you sure of that? probably not...all i know is these guys arent leaving and they all seem happy with haymon and their finances......and thats real...not make believe like charlo owning one 400k house or them taking cars as gifts.....
Its not make believe when the fighters purses are reported publicly & are nothing special in any way yet they claim to be getting paid on side(its a known fact that Haymon buys them gifts & cars which aren't reported as purses)
(especially compared to Hearn fighters like Jacobs who earn way more)(Charlo was showing off"my 1st house I'm so proud of"(it looked like typical middle class household in Texas)
You can't sit here pretending Haymons guys are so well paid,then turn around & say "how do you know"(burden of proof is on you,you have based your assumption on something right?(because it surely isn't the publicly reported purses or net worth of His fighters)(ps I'm not a Haymon hater,I can care less what promoter a fighters with, I'm a fan of Spence & Mell,& Castano,& other Pbc fighters like Porter,I just don't think anyone can say"Haymon takes care of his fighters better in any way than otjer promoters" yet his fighters act like he speaks for them entirely)
Do you realize how stupid fighters that take cars as gifts despite shtty purses are?(that the oldest trick in the book that even Dana White has been using to underpay ufc bums) you think thats a good deal(Mall Charlo was showing off a house in Texas that was worth like 400k tops,I know because I remember when he was getting clowned for it after someone zillowed him)
Its all delusional clown level,listen to Plant on twitter saying how his ppl think they know my highest purse,they don't know nothing,try multiplying that a couple times (in other words multiply the 750k$ he made his last fight 2 or 3x(a lie) but even still that clown thinks he deserves 10 mil.
Promoters get discounts on cars,buy em in deals etc. Fighters who accept that are being played for chumps.(the truth is those fighters don't want no smoke with the best,they see boxing as a 9-5 job that pays much better,while letting them pretend they are kings while nailing they're wives/gf wearing those trinkets, they're scared of taking an L & losing aura)
bro...who said anything about taking "Cars as gifts"....for all i know they are buying the cars(or maybe leasing them) with the money haymon gets them.......
some of you guys just cant cope with how well haymons fighters like him and are happy with him.......oh someone zillowed charlo? like IGAF....how do you know thats the only house charlo owns? are you sure of that? probably not...all i know is these guys arent leaving and they all seem happy with haymon and their finances......and thats real...not make believe like charlo owning one 400k house or them taking cars as gifts.....
lolol...i hear ya...tried telling the pbc haters that exact same line the other day...they dont wanna hear it...they say things like "i dont care about their money and cars"...and thats fine...but the fighters themselves do........they will call haymon a "cult" but the reality is he gets alot of guys alot of money and they love him for it.......meanwhile these same guys will excuse golovkin crap fights in the name of the network chasing a 3rd canelo/golovkin fight
Do you realize how stupid fighters that take cars as gifts despite shtty purses are?(that the oldest trick in the book that even Dana White has been using to underpay ufc bums) you think thats a good deal(Mall Charlo was showing off a house in Texas that was worth like 400k tops,I know because I remember when he was getting clowned for it after someone zillowed him)
Its all delusional clown level,listen to Plant on twitter saying how his ppl think they know my highest purse,they don't know nothing,try multiplying that a couple times (in other words multiply the 750k$ he made his last fight 2 or 3x(a lie) but even still that clown thinks he deserves 10 mil.
Promoters get discounts on cars,buy em in deals etc. Fighters who accept that are being played for chumps.(the truth is those fighters don't want no smoke with the best,they see boxing as a 9-5 job that pays much better,while letting them pretend they are kings while nailing they're wives/gf wearing those trinkets, they're scared of taking an L & losing aura)
He ain't getting those fights anymore.
If Spence wins, which he probably will, Spence will have a huge advantage in negotiations. If the fight was tough to make now, it's going to be even tougher later. Unless Crawford just accepts whatever's offered to him.
Do you think Spence is getting 50/50 vs Pacquiao or something? Highly unlikely, so if Crawford needs to take less vs Spence, then so be it. Who knows, he still may get the 50/50 split he wants, but in the mean time there are other fights for him. No need for him to just sit on the sidelines.
There is no need for any "RIP" Crawford talk......He can still get these fights but clearly something needs to change.
He ain't getting those fights anymore.
If Spence wins, which he probably will, Spence will have a huge advantage in negotiations. If the fight was tough to make now, it's going to be even tougher later. Unless Crawford just accepts whatever's offered to him.
I’ve lost all interest in Crawford. Whether it’s his fault not not he hasn’t and isn’t fighting any of the elite WW. He’s getting on in age also. Waste
he knows he aint getting the fight because he doesnt want it.. yall acting like he's begging for a pac fight. he's prolly happy as hell right now he didnt get it. that's crawford for yall lol..
Maybe you're right. Who knows if he even believes he'd beat Pacquiao, especially after the Thurman fight
i like bud...you know what i mean/am saying.......he can still get the spence fight of course....but hes going to have to take a pittance basically....al and spence are going to bend him over a barrel and show him the 50 states
I'm not going to think that way. Spence isn't moving up until he gets the Crawford fight. The problem is THAT is the only fight TR is willing to risk it since according to Trampler, PBC would assume the risk for Spence and pay him. They will cover themselves by offering a small guarantee and then the fighters get paid off how well the PPV does....Don't see that happening though. These guys are going to want a big PPV regardless of sales. Spence/Mikey had 8-9M guarantees at the time the fight was signed.
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Imagine Crawford's face right now. He's probably been hearing Bob promise him a Pacquiao fight for years and yet he's the only one that can't get one
back when pac was still with arum bob had an excuse or two for not making the fight........then when pac beat thurman he was all about it again...bob had an easy chance to deliver that fight awhile back....real easy.....my guess is he thought pac was washed up and not worth the money pac wanted....instead of investing in bud he was worried about losing some bread on it....
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Imagine Crawford's face right now. He's probably been hearing Bob promise him a Pacquiao fight for years and yet he's the only one that can't get one
Everyone knew this would happen , warned it would happen and Bud still resigned with TR ...He has no legacy his resume is hot trash
Even after Spence has a win against Pac Bud will still price himself out and say he want a bigger cut despite his weaker resume and being a lower draw.
yup...thats the sad part....bud will not be able to come to grips with his weak position...hell claim p4p all this and that and talk a big game....but his pride wont allow him to take whats coming....
There is no need for any "RIP" Crawford talk......He can still get these fights but clearly something needs to change.
i like bud...you know what i mean/am saying.......he can still get the spence fight of course....but hes going to have to take a pittance basically....al and spence are going to bend him over a barrel and show him the 50 states
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Imagine Crawford's face right now. He's probably been hearing Bob promise him a Pacquiao fight for years and yet he's the only one that can't get one
he knows he aint getting the fight because he doesnt want it.. yall acting like he's begging for a pac fight. he's prolly happy as hell right now he didnt get it. that's crawford for yall lol..