LMAO at how fast this thread became the whiny ggg scorned thread.
The same few clowns who make every excuse imaginable when its ggg or Floyd benefiting from the same exact type of decisions canelos gotten. I won't reply to you all individually, don't have the time,b
R-Hand Southpaw you're the same guy excusing ggg "robbing" of deryev & Jacobs & Canelo in 1st fight & claiming he has a pass for eternally ducking. The same standards y'all applying to Canelo apply to floyd vs castillo,maidana,DLH,Cotto & others. Those fights were just as close & Floyd would have kenny Mayweather chase his opponents around & Floyd had so much favouritism he wasn't kd or dq'd against Judah. Non of you have a leg to stand on, especially because as I said the fact the judges don't discuss each others cards before turning them in proves you're all fos,how can a fighter get split decisions or even losses on cards yet somehow"can't lose on the cards anywhere"?:dunce:(if a fighter is constantly losing on cards even when winning,& gets sd in a few,that automatically proves he can lose on cards)(y'all act like Ggg schooled him,that hypejob got shook.)
To top it off Canelo was down on the cards vs Khan/Kov/& barely beat Jacobs despite schooling him.
You like to say "you're the guy"
Am I the guy? Am I the guy who literally lacks the intelligence that I don't know the answer the the question I asked despite it literally being the answer?
Nope.
And I the guy who didn't actually score any of those fights in real time instead cheering like a gay fanboy anytime you thought Canelo landed and THEN after wards go and look for evidence to support your agenda?
Nope.
Am I the guy who doesn't understand what the word DELUSIONAL means?
Nope.
Ill tell you what that means because someone like you isn't even aware of how small your world is. You're delusional. That means you need to create and bend rules to fit your word view.
You're telling me when you watch a boxing fight youre sitting there only counting power punches? Lmfao, what is a power punch why don't you tell me? And then you ignore all the jabs too?
Imagine that. Some loser fanboy creating his own set of rules to defend his favorite boxer. Oh, only power punches count. Oh. How your face looks after a fight counts. Oh, only punches I think landed clean count.
Guys like you are the same dudes claiming GGG is a legit bum but somehow he gave Canelo his toughest fight to date and Canelo STILL barely won.
And to top it off you guys went full conspiracy crazy claiming that people just hate Canelo so much they didn't want him to win despite the fact you also claim he's the most popular boxer on the planet and A side cash cow..
You literally can't make this shit up.
I love your sig by the way. It just proves how much of a beta cuck you are. Of course when shit gets real you're just trolling, you're having a good time right?
You want to take things easy. You really must think you're so special don't you? Lmfao. You live on this forum with your homes because it's a safe place for fucking losers like you. There are plenty bottom of the barrel scraps here and you are no different.
The best part is you think you're intelligent but the more you write the stupider you look! Damn that's funny.
You do know that admitting other guys had benefit like Canelo you literally lost your own argument right?
What a fucking dumb ass lmfao
In real time I scored the 12th round for GGG because while both dudes were giving it their all GGG landed more in my opinion in the final minute. That's what decided it for me. I scored that fight 7-5 GGG and actually had a piece of paper in front of me. How many Canelo fans did that?
I think Canelo is a great fighter too but to me it just seems anytime he steps up to fight competition he's never been clear cut better like some other guys have.
GGG and Canelo will always be linked because they were the two best MWs of the last decade. Talk to all these Canelo fans and GGG is nothing more than a bum. Talk to a lot of GGG fans and know that Canelo is good..
But he's not that good..
I dont get how one second people can discredit GGG but in the next brag about how good Canelo is for "beating him" by officially the slimmest of slim margins.
Canelo literally waited for GGG to slip before he grew the balls to take the fight throwing out every excuse in the book and when he finally got it he got publicly humiliated.
Its not a coincidence that after that embarasing performance he gets busted for PED. Dude even admitted to knowing Mexican beef was tainted yet still ate it anyways?
Canelo fans and GGG haters love to point that as soon as GGG stepped up he "looked ordinary " because he wasn't knocking guys out like he used to. Well dude stopped knocking out guys at 35 and KOs at thr highest level doesn't come easy. Look at Canelo, what elite opponent has he KO recently? Ylidrim? A wash chinny Kovalev?
Every talks about Canelos power but he isn't a KO guy.. GGG took his best shots. So did Jacobs. Smith. He didn't even knock or buzz those guys. These are double standards because while GGG slowed with age, Canelo should still be in his prime.
Everything those guys criticize GGG for Canelo is a much worse offender. No one wanted to fight GGG for years but everyone wants to fight Canelo. Big difference.
Big facts, the fact he was so quick to throw out the tainted meat excuse and not be a real man and admit to cheating just shows that he's corrupt, a child, and hasn't grown up. No grown man would ever support such a thing,
So you're claiming the rd Canelo landed the most power shots in is why its a robbery?This despite ggg losing the championships rds every time hes stepped up in competition,& on all 3 cards to top it off.(including the judges who had ggg winning anyways,even they had him losing championship rds)
I dont care what the compubox says, I watched that round more than once. Canelo was clearly fatigued, GGG was landing the better harder shots by far. In the whole fight, most of your so called body shots were just hitting his arms and elbows. Same as the Lara fight. But the new rule for scoring a canelo Alvarez fight is that jabs don't count but blocked body shots do.
The judges don't find excuses for him or he wouldn't have been behind at any point vs Kov,
behind at time of ko vs khan on Byrds scorecard ffs),& he wouldn't have gotten a split decision against Lara whom the ref saved from 2 kds,1 at least should've been automatic & I can prove it because Figueroa got his counted in exactly same circumstances.
By no standard of pro scoring should Lara have won even 5 rds vs Canelo.
You can be in denial all you want but everyone knows Canelo bossed that fight from beginning to end & had Lara looking like a sheep running from the wolf & only landing weak jabs that equalled same number landed as Canelos power shots.(clean power/combos beat running scaredy jabs any day of the week,as it should)
It amazes me that Canelo hate is so strong ppl want to believe Khan was winning vs Canelo.(only when cards against Canelo are they supposedly fair apparently):lol1::rolleyes:
Yes they do, given enough time. He eas not behind when he got the ko against kovalev and versus khan it was just the 5th round. And nobody expected khan to ho past 7. Stay safe
This is the truth. I do think Canelo is a great boxer, but is he the undisputed p4p king so much better than all these other guys? No of course not, how can you say that when there's 4 guys who clearly proved they were on his level.
You can't find 6 rounds to give to Canelo in the first fight.
And in the second fight, nobody has yet been able to explain away what happened in round 12. A round GGG clearly won but 2 of 3 judges gave to Canelo. The 2 judges who not so coincidently scored the fight for Canelo 7-5.
I'm still waiting for the Canelo fans to explain away his magic trick with the coin but they won't do it. It's either the best luck in the sport of boxing or corruption. But they can't admit it.
In real time I scored the 12th round for GGG because while both dudes were giving it their all GGG landed more in my opinion in the final minute. That's what decided it for me. I scored that fight 7-5 GGG and actually had a piece of paper in front of me. How many Canelo fans did that?
I think Canelo is a great fighter too but to me it just seems anytime he steps up to fight competition he's never been clear cut better like some other guys have.
GGG and Canelo will always be linked because they were the two best MWs of the last decade. Talk to all these Canelo fans and GGG is nothing more than a bum. Talk to a lot of GGG fans and know that Canelo is good..
But he's not that good..
I dont get how one second people can discredit GGG but in the next brag about how good Canelo is for "beating him" by officially the slimmest of slim margins.
Canelo literally waited for GGG to slip before he grew the balls to take the fight throwing out every excuse in the book and when he finally got it he got publicly humiliated.
Its not a coincidence that after that embarasing performance he gets busted for PED. Dude even admitted to knowing Mexican beef was tainted yet still ate it anyways?
Canelo fans and GGG haters love to point that as soon as GGG stepped up he "looked ordinary " because he wasn't knocking guys out like he used to. Well dude stopped knocking out guys at 35 and KOs at thr highest level doesn't come easy. Look at Canelo, what elite opponent has he KO recently? Ylidrim? A wash chinny Kovalev?
Every talks about Canelos power but he isn't a KO guy.. GGG took his best shots. So did Jacobs. Smith. He didn't even knock or buzz those guys. These are double standards because while GGG slowed with age, Canelo should still be in his prime.
Everything those guys criticize GGG for Canelo is a much worse offender. No one wanted to fight GGG for years but everyone wants to fight Canelo. Big difference.
He hit more arm than the actually body. And yes, Lara landed that left at will. Like I said before, judges look for excuses to give him rounds. Agreed with you, Lara should have been more active in the latter rounds. In any case you xan find 7 rounds for the Cuban, but you would be hard pressed to find 5 for canelo. Stay safe
The judges don't find excuses for him or he wouldn't have been behind at any point vs Kov,
behind at time of ko vs khan on Byrds scorecard ffs),& he wouldn't have gotten a split decision against Lara whom the ref saved from 2 kds,1 at least should've been automatic & I can prove it because Figueroa got his counted in exactly same circumstances.
By no standard of pro scoring should Lara have won even 5 rds vs Canelo.
You can be in denial all you want but everyone knows Canelo bossed that fight from beginning to end & had Lara looking like a sheep running from the wolf & only landing weak jabs that equalled same number landed as Canelos power shots.(clean power/combos beat running scaredy jabs any day of the week,as it should)
It amazes me that Canelo hate is so strong ppl want to believe Khan was winning vs Canelo.(only when cards against Canelo are they supposedly fair apparently):lol1::rolleyes:
Round 12 of the second GGG fight is why it was a robbery.
Round 5 and 11 of the Lara fight are why its a robbery.
If those rounds had been scored properly both Lara and GGG would have won.
First GGG fight I won't even go into because you can't give me 6 rounds for Canelo.
So you're claiming the rd Canelo landed the most power shots in is why its a robbery?This despite ggg losing the championships rds every time hes stepped up in competition,& on all 3 cards to top it off.(including the judges who had ggg winning anyways,even they had him losing championship rds)
I had Lara winning 115-113 but I also felt that Lara could have made it more convincing if he had stood his ground a bit more. For example, his southpaw straight left was money all night but he would land clean and then get on his bike for another 30 seconds. Canelo won a lot of rounds just by pressing the action and going to the body.
He hit more arm than the actually body. And yes, Lara landed that left at will. Like I said before, judges look for excuses to give him rounds. Agreed with you, Lara should have been more active in the latter rounds. In any case you xan find 7 rounds for the Cuban, but you would be hard pressed to find 5 for canelo. Stay safe
Funny how Canelo fans get mad and defend Canelo, knowing dam well Canelo always gets generous scorecards in Vegas and Texas. I won’t be surprise if the same judges in Texas for the trout fight will judge his fight.
truth is Canelo is the face for Mexican boxing fans and Mexico, no way they want to stop the gravy train.Vegas,Casinos, Nevada state commission and the WBC need Canelo to thrive. Canelo should have 3 losses on his record
Can someone please explain to me how Canelo winning by like 1-2 rds on 2 cards in a close fight equates to robbery like Paulina claims? (Show me a fight Canelo lost CLEARLY,you can't do it because only Floyd fight was,the same fight where Canelo gave in to Floyds diva demands) Ggg can't say he schooled canelo or beat his ass,he was scared of even attacking him & left his punch arsenal at home except for his arm punch arsenal. Lara ran for his life & got hit with 73 body power shots,& both fighters landed equally except Laras were mostly jabs & Canelos were all power shots.(how can a fighter land same amount of punches & win if their opponent heavily outlanded in power shots & clean punches,not to mention Lara had 1-2 kds not counted,1 where he took a break to soothe his eye,& another when he held up by ropes alone(automatic kd by rule)
Round 12 of the second GGG fight is why it was a robbery.
Round 5 and 11 of the Lara fight are why its a robbery.
If those rounds had been scored properly both Lara and GGG would have won.
First GGG fight I won't even go into because you can't give me 6 rounds for Canelo.
Can someone please explain to me how Canelo winning by like 1-2 rds on 2 cards in a close fight equates to robbery like Paulina claims? (Show me a fight Canelo lost CLEARLY,you can't do it because only Floyd fight was,the same fight where Canelo gave in to Floyds diva demands) Ggg can't say he schooled canelo or beat his ass,he was scared of even attacking him & left his punch arsenal at home except for his arm punch arsenal. Lara ran for his life & got hit with 73 body power shots,& both fighters landed equally except Laras were mostly jabs & Canelos were all power shots.(how can a fighter land same amount of punches & win if their opponent heavily outlanded in power shots & clean punches & was the Agressor & ring general?,not to mention Lara had 1-2 kds not counted,1 where he took a break to soothe his eye,& another when he held up by ropes alone(automatic kd by rule)
Wtf are you talking about,I call it how I see it. ALWAYS have no matter if it psses ppl off(like when I say ggg arguably robbed jacobs & deryev) or when I say if Canelo gets favouritism then wtf did Floyd get? Same thing goes for every other fighter,BJS robbed Akavov,& arguably got gifts in other fights,same thing with every other fighters close Decisions or split decisions,Charlo arguably robbed Trout(by same standards as those saying Canelo robbed ppl due to barely winning by a few rds)
I do think GGG lost to Jacobs and Derev. He did the magic trick twice to Canelo's 4 times, maybe 5 times.
Floyd gets favoritism, but the 2 times he did he immediately gave the rematch and dominated.
I will NEVER stop speaking out against injustice in the sport of boxing, I don't care who the victim is. I even defended canelo Alvarez this week when Billy Hoe Saunders tried to pull that **** with the ring and threatened to pull out. When have you ever stood up for one of the fighters I support?
Wtf are you talking about,I call it how I see it. ALWAYS have no matter if it psses ppl off(like when I say ggg arguably robbed jacobs & deryev) or when I say if Canelo gets favouritism then wtf did Floyd get? Same thing goes for every other fighter,BJS robbed Akavov,& arguably got gifts in other fights,same thing with every other fighters close Decisions or split decisions,Charlo arguably robbed Trout(by same standards as those saying Canelo robbed ppl due to barely winning by a few rds)
LMAO at how fast this thread became the whiny gggroupy apologist scorned thread.
The same few clowns who make every excuse imaginable when its ggg or Floyd benefiting from the same exact type of decisions canelos gotten. I won't reply to you all individually, don't have the time,b
@rhandsouthpaw you're the same clown excusing ggg "robbing" of deryev & Jacobs & Canelo in 1st fight. The same standards y'all applying to Canelo apply to floyd vs castillo,maidana,DLH,Cotto & others. Those fights were just as close & Floyd would have kenny Mayweather chase his opponents around & Floyd had so much favouritism he wasn't kd or dq'd against Judah. Non of you have a leg to stand on, especially because as I said the fact the judges don't discuss each others cards before turning them in proves you're all fos,how can a fighter get split decisions or even losses on cards yet somehow"can't lose on the cards anywhere"?:dunce:
To top it off Canelo was down on the cards vs Khan/Kov/& barely beat Jacobs despite schooling him.
I will NEVER stop speaking out against injustice in the sport of boxing, I don't care who the victim is. I even defended canelo Alvarez this week when Billy Hoe Saunders tried to pull that shit with the ring and threatened to pull out. When have you ever stood up for one of the fighters I support?
LMAO at how fast this thread became the whiny ggg scorned thread.
The same few clowns who make every excuse imaginable when its ggg or Floyd benefiting from the same exact type of decisions canelos gotten. I won't reply to you all individually, don't have the time,b
R-Hand Southpaw you're the same guy excusing ggg "robbing" of deryev & Jacobs & Canelo in 1st fight & claiming he has a pass for eternally ducking. The same standards y'all applying to Canelo apply to floyd vs castillo,maidana,DLH,Cotto & others. Those fights were just as close & Floyd would have kenny Mayweather chase his opponents around & Floyd had so much favouritism he wasn't kd or dq'd against Judah. Non of you have a leg to stand on, especially because as I said the fact the judges don't discuss each others cards before turning them in proves you're all fos,how can a fighter get split decisions or even losses on cards yet somehow"can't lose on the cards anywhere"?:dunce:(if a fighter is constantly losing on cards even when winning,& gets sd in a few,that automatically proves he can lose on cards)(y'all act like Ggg schooled him,that hypejob got shook.)
To top it off Canelo was down on the cards vs Khan/Kov/& barely beat Jacobs despite schooling him.
There are a lot of guys who if things were fair or different might have changed their legacy but it's really impossible to win against an A side and only Canelo has proven that even as the B side he has the cards on his side.
Some of his cards are a huge stain on the sport and anyone with with unbiased eyes can see it..
You don't get outboxed like 10-2 or even at best 8-4 and magically pull a 114-114 card like he did against Mayweather.
You also don't lose an easy scored 8-4 at worse 7-5 fight and somehow manage to magically pull a 118-110 card against GGG.
Even in the rematch Canelo got the benefit of doubt because "he did better" which is all he needed to do to win. More people still believe GGG won or it was a draw than Canelo actually winning.
Even if you were a big GGG hater and thought Jacobs beat GGG it doesn't change the fact more people thought GGG beat Canelo the second time around than Jacovs beat GGG.
And THEN, to top it off Canelo claims he hated GGG so much for calling him a cheat he wanted to cut his head off but when offered another chance to do so he was literally too afraid to fight outside Vegas.
Hilarious ****.
This is the truth. I do think Canelo is a great boxer, but is he the undisputed p4p king so much better than all these other guys? No of course not, how can you say that when there's 4 guys who clearly proved they were on his level.
You can't find 6 rounds to give to Canelo in the first fight.
And in the second fight, nobody has yet been able to explain away what happened in round 12. A round GGG clearly won but 2 of 3 judges gave to Canelo. The 2 judges who not so coincidently scored the fight for Canelo 7-5.
I'm still waiting for the Canelo fans to explain away his magic trick with the coin but they won't do it. It's either the best luck in the sport of boxing or corruption. But they can't admit it.
Simple, all those "close" fights, he lost each and everyone of them. For a judge to find a round on his fight against floyd, you needed a magnifying glass. Still a judge found 6 rounds. And with Lara, he did nothing, he hit air all night. Ggg won his first fight going away and the second, imo, ginger won. The fact of the matter is that, judges would find rounds to give it to him, without deserving it. Stay safe.
I had Lara winning 115-113 but I also felt that Lara could have made it more convincing if he had stood his ground a bit more. For example, his southpaw straight left was money all night but he would land clean and then get on his bike for another 30 seconds. Canelo won a lot of rounds just by pressing the action and going to the body.
Aint that the facts. With Canelo Alvarez they flipped a coin 5 times, he called heads 5 times, and it landed on heads 5 times.Name one other boxer who can do that "magic trick"??? **** bro if Roman Gonzalez could have pulled that trick off TWICE, he'd still be undefeated and the best pound for pound fighter in boxing. Except there it's even worse because with Roman it was like a 3 sided coin with 2 heads and 1 tails. He called heads twice and it was tails both times.
There are a lot of guys who if things were fair or different might have changed their legacy but it's really impossible to win against an A side and only Canelo has proven that even as the B side he has the cards on his side.
Some of his cards are a huge stain on the sport and anyone with with unbiased eyes can see it..
You don't get outboxed like 10-2 or even at best 8-4 and magically pull a 114-114 card like he did against Mayweather.
You also don't lose an easy scored 8-4 at worse 7-5 fight and somehow manage to magically pull a 118-110 card against GGG.
Even in the rematch Canelo got the benefit of doubt because "he did better" which is all he needed to do to win. More people still believe GGG won or it was a draw than Canelo actually winning.
Even if you were a big GGG hater and thought Jacobs beat GGG it doesn't change the fact more people thought GGG beat Canelo the second time around than Jacovs beat GGG.
And THEN, to top it off Canelo claims he hated GGG so much for calling him a cheat he wanted to cut his head off but when offered another chance to do so he was literally too afraid to fight outside Vegas.
Hilarious shit.
He has a draw against Jorge Juarez that could have been a loss.
Many objective observers, including this website, scores the Jacobs fight a draw. That could have been a loss.
Austin Trout could have been a loss, but I blame the open scoring system. Canelo gave away the second half of the fight because he knew he couldn’t lose. So I count that one but it’s hard to blame Canelo for it.
I thought he beat Cotto but since you mentioned it, I guess that’s potential loss number eight. I don’t know about Jorge Juarez but Canelo started at 15 so I don’t hold those early fights against him too much
I actually didn’t count Cotto because I felt like that was a clear win for Canelo. I felt that Jacobs was also a close but clear win but it’s worth mentioning that there is nothing wrong with winning close against top opponents.
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