Fury and Usyk are the best heavyweights on the planet

He could barely handle Chisora and Chisora has lost to literally every good fighter he has ever faced. Tyson Fury twice, Robert Helenius, Vitali Klitschko, David Haye, Kubrat Pulev, Dillian Whyte twice, Agit Kabayel, Usyk, and now Joseph Parker. If he tries to fight Fury, Joshua, or Wilder the way he fought Chisora he will get stopped in the first half of the fight.

I dont think Usyk beats the top 4. He hasnt beat an elite heavyweight yet and he looks slower at heavyweight than he was at cruiser. I am as big of a fan of Usyk as there is. Was in my top 3 P4P long before there was a CW tournament to prove how good he was. But this is true. He is not as fluid in his HW fights as he was at CW. This probably should be expected when you add that much weight, but it has been a noticeable drop off in quickness for Usyk. He needs to be able to absorb some hits, so he needs more pounds on his frame. But if he loses his speed completely, what makes his so efficiently dangerous is lost. Usyk is in a catch 22 where I do not know how he achieves one without completely losing the other.

Joshua is way above Usyk in the heavyweight game . If they fight Usyks in for a shock After Fury decapitates AJ in a handful of rounds WITH EASE Everyone will be looking forward to see Usyk, AJ & Wilder fights with one another

Joshua is way above Usyk in the heavyweight game . If they fight Usyks in for a shock

I agree, but I have to see Usyk fighting some big puncher.

Fury can easily switch back to that Riddler style though, he's only really gone on the front foot for his last fight. He was shoulder rolling Wilder in the first fight. The Riddler style forced Fury to come in at 250 pound plus, maybe low 260 pounds at the most but 'Is it effective with that type of body work?'. I personally think the Ridder style was a bi-product of Peter Fury, just like Mike Tyson's original style was a bi-product of Kevin Rooney, Teddy Atlas and the old team Tyson etc To a certain extent Tyson Fury can bring the Riddler style back, as it is most likely innate 'But I honestly don't think it will be as potent, without Peter Fury'. Tyson Fury was also decked twice by Deontay Wilder, badly in the 12th round 'Under Peter Fury, I don't think Fury would of been decked'.

Yes but what I am saying is? Not many fighters opt to fight Chisora head, not many opt to meet force with force. If Tyson Fury opted to meet force with force with Chisora, it would be a extremely difficult fight. Fighters usually opt to mixed things up with Chisora. Only David Haye in reality, met force with force went into trench warfare 'And stopped Chisora's momentum'. Dillian Whyte during his first fight with Chisora also met force with force, and got judges decision 'In a close fight'. In the second fight Whyte once again met force with force, and I agree? He was struggling, but eventually stopped Chisora's momentum. Tyson Fury did not meet force with force with Chisora, he beat him 'Using the riddler style'. Modern warfare, technological pugilistic warfare. Right now as we speak? I think Chisora pushes Tyson Fury, because Fury no longer uses his old Riddler style. Will the Riddler style ever comeback? Fury can easily switch back to that Riddler style though, he's only really gone on the front foot for his last fight. He was shoulder rolling Wilder in the first fight.

I had Chisora winning the first Whyte fight, and was beating him more soundly in the second one. If anything, the ref stopped Chisora's momentum. Yes but what I am saying is? Not many fighters opt to fight Chisora head, not many opt to meet force with force. If Tyson Fury opted to meet force with force with Chisora, it would be a extremely difficult fight. Fighters usually opt to mixed things up with Chisora. Only David Haye in reality, met force with force went into trench warfare 'And stopped Chisora's momentum'. Dillian Whyte during his first fight with Chisora also met force with force, and got judges decision 'In a close fight'. In the second fight Whyte once again met force with force, and I agree? He was struggling, but eventually stopped Chisora's momentum. Tyson Fury did not meet force with force with Chisora, he beat him 'Using the riddler style'. Modern warfare, technological pugilistic warfare. Right now as we speak? I think Chisora pushes Tyson Fury, because Fury no longer uses his old Riddler style. Will the Riddler style ever comeback?

But it is how Fury fought him, Fury did not meet Chisora head on. Only two fighters have met Chisora head on and stopped his momentum. David Haye & Dillian Whyte. Tyson Fury did not meet him head on, if he did? It would of been a completely different fight. David Haye has the most impressive win over Chisora as he fought him head on, and ended him within 5-6 rounds. Tyson Fury stayed away from Chisora and implemented his old school Riddler style. I had Chisora winning the first Whyte fight, and was beating him more soundly in the second one. If anything, the ref stopped Chisora's momentum.

Usyk is too small.

Nobody other than Fury could handle Chisora the way he did though. But it is how Fury fought him, Fury did not meet Chisora head on. Only two fighters have met Chisora head on and stopped his momentum. David Haye & Dillian Whyte. Tyson Fury did not meet him head on, if he did? It would of been a completely different fight. David Haye has the most impressive win over Chisora as he fought him head on, and ended him within 5-6 rounds. Tyson Fury stayed away from Chisora and implemented his old school Riddler style. Note: Chisora could well push this current Tyson Fury, for the simple fact? The Riddler style has not been used since Wilder I. If you want a fight with Tyson Fury? It is not difficult to develop one 'The Riddler was a bi-product of Peter Fury's training'.

Parker won in a close fight. The right guy won, no controversy. Saying "No Controversy" doesn't make something not controversial.

It just means on the night chisora fought the wrong fight and fury fought the right fight. their first fight was close. Like i said chisora wasnt living the life back then. Their first fight wasn't even that close, and Fury had taken it on relatively short notice IIRC. Chisora was expected to win.

Usyk struggled with a washed up chisora worse than parker did, so how is he one of the best hw when he hasn't even fought the best hws? Now I'm not saying beating Chisora in any way proves Usyk is an elite HW but your statement there is flat out wrong. Parker struggled far more than Usyk.. In fact you could make a solid case for Delboi deserving the nod over Joe but you couldn't reasonably make a similar case against Usyk.

I meant the style, it was a complete one sided washing. Whyte put him to sleep, but was losing the fight even with two points deducted. It just means on the night chisora fought the wrong fight and fury fought the right fight. their first fight was close. Like i said chisora wasnt living the life back then.

Fury probably. I think Usyk loses to AJ, Wilder and potentially Joyce though. And Joyce is a problem for everyone other than maybe Fury.

Parker lost. Parker won in a close fight. The right guy won, no controversy.

haye ko'd chisora in more brutal fashion btw. Whyte also put him to fkin sleep and no one else did that. still, back in the day Chisora wasnt even living the life. he was clubbing, drinking etc and had little focus. That's why he lost badly to haye and fury. I meant the style, it was a complete one sided washing. Whyte put him to sleep, but was losing the fight even with two points deducted.

Usyk struggled with a washed up chisora worse than parker did, so how is he one of the best hw when he hasn't even fought the best hws? Parker lost.

Nobody other than Fury could handle Chisora the way he did though. haye ko'd chisora in more brutal fashion btw. Whyte also put him to fkin sleep and no one else did that. still, back in the day Chisora wasnt even living the life. he was clubbing, drinking etc and had little focus. That's why he lost badly to haye and fury.