Which current active fighters do you personally think are already hall of famers based on their current resumes/accomplishments? I know there's been some questionable people put in over the years so it's questionable on what they look for anymore on who goes in or not, but who do you personally think belongs in of the current fighters?
Ioka has won belts in 4 divisions and has a signature win over Tanaka, a very close loss to Nietes that could have went either way, and wins over Reveco, Yaegashi, Alvarado, Jaigrajang, and another loss to Reunroeng where he could have got the decision. The talent pool in the lower weights is smaller but he's got a legit resume. Nietes's signature win was his very close win over Ioka, they should rematch. Ioka has a better resume than Nietes, but both will get in. Compare their legacies to somebody like Broner who has won 'belts' in 4 divisions and they're night and day.
SSR will be in there once the dust has settled on this era. He beat 2 HOF'ers in their primes - his own peak wasn't long but good enough to ensure he's a tough out for any 115 fighters in history.
Chocolatito is one of the best 112 and under fighters of all time. Throw in his wins against Cuadras, Yafai, the first fight with SSR (which I thought he edged) and the recent win against Estrada (imo) you've got one of the best resumes in 115lbs history. Chocolatito is a legit ATG.
Regarding Mikey, p4p he's for sure a great fighter. How many fighters win their first title at 126 and then go on to be Lineal 140 Champ and unified Lightweight champion at the same time? If a vacant belt was on the line when he beat Jessie Vargas and he became a 5-division title holder people wouldn't argue. Sometimes I don't care about belts, it's about the names. Now Vargas isn't a special fighter but Mikey proved he came mix it with much larger men and in a p4p context that was an important fight to demonstrate Mikey is a great fighter. Yeah Mikey doesn't have that one special win to hang his hat on but wins over Salido, Juanma, Rocky, Zlaticanin, Broner, Lipinets, Easter Jr, Vargas demonstrates his p4p ability to traverse divisions. He lost 2.5 years of his career to politics too. Mikey is underrated I think.
Don't know why people are questioning GGG. He has 2 wins over Canelo imo, should have been undisputed basically. In his prime he was avoided and his resume is a victim of that. Also any fighters that's on p4p lists that long definitely gets in.
There's probably 5 active at 115 alone - stacked!
Chocolatito
Estrada
SSR - wins over Choco and Estrada in their primes
Ioka - sealed it with the Tanaka KO
Nietes
Donaire
Loma
Mikey
Crawford
Pac
GGG
Canelo
Zelenoff
Kovalev
Usyk
Fury
Inoue is only 28, he'll be a lock. AJ will be in regardless of whether he beats Fury across their two fights, we just need to see the fights to know who the top dog of the era is. Need to see more from Spence, Jermall, Wilder. Leo probably, Rigo if he beats Casimero.
If Zelenoff is in I would like to see Brian Sutherland in as well. Sutherland's resume may be slightly underwhelming but him being a world ambassador of the sport cannot be overlooked.
IMO, Nietes and Ioka need to defeat at least one (either Choco, Estrada, or SSR) for them to be considered for HOF. SSR need at least one more great win either against Nietes or Ioka.
Lock: Pac, Canelo, Donaire, and Fury if he beats Joshua.
GGG needs at least 2-3 great wins.
Loma, Mikey, Crawford, all have no great wins.
The rest are meh.
Ioka is already the youngest ever 4 division world champion. He's in regardless.
There's probably 5 active at 115 alone - stacked!
Chocolatito
Estrada
SSR - wins over Choco and Estrada in their primes
Ioka - sealed it with the Tanaka KO
Nietes
Donaire
Loma
Mikey
Crawford
Pac
GGG
Canelo
Zelenoff
Kovalev
Usyk
Fury
Inoue is only 28, he'll be a lock. AJ will be in regardless of whether he beats Fury across their two fights, we just need to see the fights to know who the top dog of the era is. Need to see more from Spence, Jermall, Wilder. Leo probably, Rigo if he beats Casimero.
IMO, Nietes and Ioka need to defeat at least one (either Choco, Estrada, or SSR) for them to be considered for HOF. SSR need at least one more great win either against Nietes or Ioka.
Lock: Pac, Canelo, Donaire, and Fury if he beats Joshua.
GGG needs at least 2-3 great wins.
Loma, Mikey, Crawford, all have no great wins.
The rest are meh.
There's probably 5 active at 115 alone - stacked!
Chocolatito
Estrada
SSR - wins over Choco and Estrada in their primes
Ioka - sealed it with the Tanaka KO
Nietes
Donaire
Loma
Mikey
Crawford
Pac
GGG
Canelo
Zelenoff
Kovalev
Usyk
Fury
Inoue is only 28, he'll be a lock. AJ will be in regardless of whether he beats Fury across their two fights, we just need to see the fights to know who the top dog of the era is. Need to see more from Spence, Jermall, Wilder. Leo probably, Rigo if he beats Casimero.
It's not the baseball HOF where they only take the cream of the crop. Pretty sure it's more like the Hockey Hall of Fame where they take a certain number of boxers each year regardless of if it's a weak year or not. Like, I'm a big Gatti fan, but he's got no business being in the HOF.
It's very tricky in my opinion. How do you rank "cream of the crop"? Back in the day, boxers would be blackballed from potentially classic matches. A guy like let's say Oscar had so much more opportunities than a Jack Johnson type of boxer. But both of them are great boxers to me, I'd say they are both hall of fame. And obviously someone like Sonny Liston didn't have the opportunities as other great boxers, but still HOF worthy because of what he was able to achieve plus skills.
Gatti had some good wins, no great wins, but definitely brought a lot of fun to boxing. A people's champ. Is he HOF-skilled? Definitely not. But I can see why he was put there.
Prince Nas was even more skilled and he's a legend in my book, but a good portion of people feel like he isn't HOF worthy and they have a good argument.
Other than pacquiao, nobody
Canelo is elite to me by TODAY's standards but if I were to pick who would be hall of fame, I don't think his resume would be up there.
It's not the baseball HOF where they only take the cream of the crop. Pretty sure it's more like the Hockey Hall of Fame where they take a certain number of boxers each year regardless of if it's a weak year or not. Like, I'm a big Gatti fan, but he's got no business being in the HOF.
Lomachenko, Rigondeaux and Robisey Ramirez go in based off their amateur careers. Pacquao is an obvious lock. Kazuta Ioka, Donaire and Chocolatito. Usyk based on his amateur career and his time at Cruiserweight.
Other than pacquiao, nobody
Canelo is elite to me by TODAY's standards but if I were to pick who would be hall of fame, I don't think his resume would be up there.