Is Fury's win over Wilder 2 the most overrated win in recent years?

IMO Wilder is still the favourite against AJ. He’s snappier and faster in hand speed and reflexes. Better stamina and also the crazy power. Even with a mentally broken wilder, I still think he’d beat AJ 8 times out of 10. Actually, I think Josh would be betting favourite now but it's still a great win for fury over wilder. Even if Josh beats wilder it's still a very good win for fury. Less of a good win for josh as it's fury used goods

Before anyone says anything, I do not rate Wilder or prefer american boxers or none of that. And I don't get into country wars. But, holy **** is Fury's TKO over Wilder the most overrated win since forever. Like it's not even a great win. Most of us thought Wilder was a hypejob even before he faced Fury. He fought Fury prior and got schooled almost every round except for the 2 rounds he scored a knockdown. He got gifted with a draw ffs. Are we really surprised that Fury, who won the first time, would end up winning the second time? Wilder was never that good. Is he a top 5 heavy right now? Probably, but if you look at his wins they are 99.9% garbage. His best win is probably an old Ortiz. He was ****ted on pretty much every forum, rightfully so. But since Fury beat him, Wilder all of a sudden becomes the hardest-hitting heavyweight boogeyman to ever exist in boxing? **** no. Any great heavyweight in history would've beaten Wilder that night, and if we're being honest, Fury didn't even look that great. He was fighting dirty and got caught with some shots that he shouldn't have been hit with. I cannot think of any other win that has been more meaningless than this one. Any thoughts? Punchers have a different mind set. They are looking to survive and get a maxium amount of opportunities. Wilder is athletic enough not to get knocked down willy nilly. If he can avoid getting starched he is dangerous. There were times in the division where a pure puncher would not make it unless they had other skills, but that does not mean a puncher like Wilder can be judged on his boxing skills. What about David Haye? an ambush fighter who found a way to stay back and KO a few people... Haye was never a much better boxer than Wilder if you watch him. Where I agree with some of your hyperbolic perspective is where we take Wilder and try to place him in an era like Louis, or Ali's. In these eras the punchers had to have boxing skills, the general level of skill was just such that no one who did not have at least great basic skills, would not survive. particularly the 70's where Lyle and Shavers, both pure punchers, had to know how to box... But today most of the fighters are limited except Fury. Ortiz when he fought Wilder was beating him badly in the second fight. It never really mattered though. We may see a situation when wilder fights guys like Ruiz and Joshua where Wilder is KO'ed like Fury was doing to him the second fight. Time will tell. BUT all a puncher has to do is have a way to not get attacked. Wilder knows guys will hesitate against him... Thats why he can do what he does.

One of biggest hitters in history. Wilder would have been favourite against Josh before fury beat him 1st time. it was a great win as he was first to tame wilder IMO Wilder is still the favourite against AJ. He’s snappier and faster in hand speed and reflexes. Better stamina and also the crazy power. Even with a mentally broken wilder, I still think he’d beat AJ 8 times out of 10.

If he’s not that good, how is he top 5 in the world? You contradicted your self within two consecutive sentences. Because this era is one of the worst eras for heavies?

Wilder was never that good. Is he a top 5 heavy right now? Probably If he’s not that good, how is he top 5 in the world? You contradicted your self within two consecutive sentences.

It's mostly Fury fans spewing that dumb logic about Wilder being a bum but they turn around and say Fury the best in the division for beating this so called bum. Stupid people Exactly. You know what time it is.

I agree. Wilder is top of his division right now. This division is TRASH. I don't care if you say Fury is a top dog of this era. But it's crazy that because Fury beat Wilder, somehow he'd be able to beat the top dogs in every other era? Come on man. It's mostly Fury fans spewing that dumb logic about Wilder being a bum but they turn around and say Fury the best in the division for beating this so called bum. Stupid people

The Wilder slander is getting old. Say what you want about his skillset but it got him to the top of his division. Even you admit that he is a top 5 HW so that says more about the division being thin rather than Wilder being overrated. Outside of the top 5 HW y'all claim everyone is a bum so it doesnt matter who Wilder fought outside of Fury, AJ, and Whyte y'all would have called anyone outside of those 3 a bum. I agree. Wilder is top of his division right now. This division is TRASH. I don't care if you say Fury is a top dog of this era. But it's crazy that because Fury beat Wilder, somehow he'd be able to beat the top dogs in every other era? Come on man.

The Wilder slander is getting old. Say what you want about his skillset but it got him to the top of his division. Even you admit that he is a top 5 HW so that says more about the division being thin rather than Wilder being overrated. Outside of the top 5 HW y'all claim everyone is a bum so it doesnt matter who Wilder fought outside of Fury, AJ, and Whyte y'all would have called anyone outside of those 3 a bum.

One of biggest hitters in history. Wilder would have been favourite against Josh before fury beat him 1st time. it was a great win as he was first to tame wilder

Bob Arum has seen more boxing than any of us, and he says Wilder is the hardest puncher of all time, and he isn't a delusional Wilder stan either. Wilder already fought a top 5 guy before called Luis Ortiz, and proceeded to knock him the f*** out. Joshua ducked Wilder just as much as it was the other way round. Arum also said Crawford was as good as Sugar Ray Leonard, if not better. He may have been around boxing way longer than any of us, but that doesn't mean he doesn't say some bullshit every now and then. Luis is a highlight of Wilder's resume, no doubt. Would Ortiz be a great, defining win for any other ATG in history? Probably not AJ may be culprit to ducking as well, and while he is also overrated, he has a win over an ancient Klitschko, which is just about better than anything on Wilder's resume.

It was a great win. Look what journeyman Buster Douglas did to prime Mike Tyson? Anyone with a brain knows what Deontay Wilder does to Douglas! The 90's HW scene was trash.

Wider's right hand is legit. The first fight Fury didn't run away with it and found himself twice on his back. Everyone knows that Wilder don't have boxing skills but is dangerous. Fury came in and did what he needed to do.

AJ v Ruiz was far more overrated

It wasn't a career defining victory or anything like that. Wilder simply wasn't that good. He was and still is a total promotional fabrication But its far from the most overrated win. You have fighters like Plant getting hyped to high heavens for beating Uzcategui for example..

no he wasn't...Wilder was dragged for ducking Klit/Joshua and nobody but delusional Wilder stans thought he was possibly the hardest puncher of all time. We all said that once Wilder fights a top 5 heavy he would get exposed, and that was it... Bob Arum has seen more boxing than any of us, and he says Wilder is the hardest puncher of all time, and he isn't a delusional Wilder stan either. Wilder already fought a top 5 guy before called Luis Ortiz, and proceeded to knock him the f*** out. Joshua ducked Wilder just as much as it was the other way round.

It's easy to revise history, Wilder was feared, was widely regarded as the baddest man on the planet and one of the hardest punchers of all time, if not the hardest. Wilder was the favourite in both fights, and most people on here predicted him to KO Fury in both fights. no he wasn't...Wilder was dragged for ducking Klit/Joshua and nobody but delusional Wilder stans thought he was possibly the hardest puncher of all time. We all said that once Wilder fights a top 5 heavy he would get exposed, and that was it...

While I agree that people were going overboard over-rating Wilder's power, Fury put on a terrifically brutal display of a boxing clinic in the rematch. That was a great win no matter how people try to re-imagine it.

I think it's a great win. Wilder is a one trick pony but that one trick is fight ending and he throws it with very fast hands. He was able to back Wilder up which meant alot of the time Wilder wasn't comfortable or set to throw his big right but Fury still had to put himself in the firing line to back him up. Its overrated by those who think that beating Wilder it proves he can beat anybody. That win didn't prove that, it just meant he can beat Wilder (which is worth alot of praise) but the next guy in line is a totally different matter. But it is underrated by those that just class Wilder as an outright useless bum who was going to be crushed the moment he fought an elite fighter. Like I said, Wilder is a 1 trick Pony but that 1 trick alone is such a good trick he is far from a bum. Literally every high ranked fighter is over or under rated by somebody.

Before that rematch Fury was talking about a KO and said he’d come straight forward which seemed the most stupid strategy ever. Play into Wilder’s strengths? Nobody had done that (for good reason). Well Fury did and KO’d/mugged Wilder easily, additionally mentally destroying him. This was one of the best rematches I’ve seen in years.