Lmao at how fast some ppl jump on & off hypetrains,I just made this thread days ago & Artur proved me right

Analyzing hypothetical Canelo matchups are really pointless. No way to account for the 1) form of the opponent; 2) any weight etc clauses; 3) accurate scorecards. Canelo is a great fighter but really protected, and likely doping. We should keep it real on those counts.

Amended by who? I'm going to have to create a thread Because Nobody in the msm has bothered because they're too lazy. Wada have always considered Clen below a certain threshold on a case by case basis where they would investigate then decide whether someone should be punished, VADA would treat every clen test as a fail(they're not a sanctioning body),but WADA would then investigate the tests,or in boxings case Nsac/etc. Since then they have now changed their rules to allow Clen to not be considered an automatic fail in certain countries where the meat has been proven to contain it on a widespread scale. now they rightfully treat therapeutic dosages as a fail(1 therapeutic dose is like eating 100 steaks of clen in a few days,& shows up accordingly in urine/blood/hair), because those doses are whats required to even have a performance enhancing effect.(if a athlete dopes they must take large doses of clen(it can't be microdosed),if its a miniscule amount its consistent with meat contamination because Clen stays in your system a pretty long time in drug terms if you eat even 1 taco.) https://www.velonews.com/news/road/w...uterol-appeal/

Clenbuterol was amended. You dummies never refute that Amended by who?

I can't agree that this is a stylistic matchup that favours Canelo. GGG is a pressure fighter, and so is Canelo, and the two of them stood in the ring and traded, and many believe GGG was hard done by in at least one of those bouts. Regardless, nobody could argue that it wasn't close, those fights were definitely close and that's a fact. Beterbiev is also a pressure fighter, who hits very hard, and has a great chin, is much bigger than Golovkin, and will put it on you for 3 minutes of every round. I have the utmost respect for Canelo's body of work, and he might beat Beterbiev, but I think it is a bit presumptious of any person to state that they unequivocally know what the outcome of a fight between the two would be. My money would be on Beterbiev, but I wouldn't be 100% sure, and neither should anyone. Great fight, hope it happens one day. Im just talking banter,of course we don't know for sure(I'm merely making the point that Beterbieve is not the boogieman kryptonite to Canelo that hes scared of,but rather that if anything he'd be Canelos 1st choice instead of better boxers who can punch like Bivol)

stripped of the Ring Magazine belt too.....for not cheating Its obvious that Canelo is not a cheater & that the real reason his detractors/haters want to believe that is because they already hate him with a passion & it justifies it. You can't use cherrypicked facts without context for everything else such as:Nsac wanting to save face for sweeping Floyds scandal under the rug, That they had already defended other fighters for much larger amounts of clen,that they made it clear everything was consistent with eating clen meat,& hair follicle test,that Vada/Wada LITERALLY admitted they were fos for considering Canelos test failed,& that they since then have made it clear they will rightfully no longer consider such tests dirty for athletes in Mexico & China. Nsac has had egg on their face by suspending ufc fighters for false positive tests,& if Canelo was actually guilty hed be REQUIRED to be suspended for 2 yrs minimum by every sanctioning org & Nsac,he instead was given the same "suspension" that kod fighters get after getting kod,iow a "suspension" that allows the rematch to go ahead without any controversy (because they didn't want ggg crying that he lost by fighting a fighter on peds,like Dildo Shyte v Rivas) link showing Canelo was CLEARED by VADA/WADA retroactively https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...ug-clenbuterol

Don't jump off, keep piling on it! Let Arthur Unify 175 and get all the Belts, if the does that then I am 100% all in on Canelo going up and fighting him for ALL THE BELTS! Right now Beterbiev is not a big fight for Canelo in anyway outside of the few people on this forum. All the $$$ is at 168 for Canelo right now! I like Beterbiev, always liked Beterbiev since seeing him on Adonis Stevenson Undercards on Yvon Michel Cards years ago before people even started jumping on the Bandwagon. He is Very Dangerous for Canelo and anybody at 175 because of that Power...not invincible though and still have his flaws especially Defensively but then also for him, if he doesn't respect your Power he will gladly eat some of your punch to get in range to punish you with his Power. Gvozdyk is a damn good boxer and he tried to out-box but Beterbiev Power was just too much for him and Gvozdyk is no small 175 either. I want Beterbiev vs Bivol, winner of that I'm 1000% all in on Canelo fighting whoever Unifies while Canelo is busy trying to unify 168. Joe Smith has a punchers chances vs Beterbiev though, it will come down to who gets to who chin first. Joe inconsistent so lets see if he can win that WBO Belt first before looking ahead to Unification

{"alt":"Click image for larger version Name:\t4292472-0-image-a-53_1536926754022.jpg Views:\t0 Size:\t23.4 KB ID:\t30826346","data-align":"none","data-attachmentid":"30826346","data-size":"full","title":"4292472-0-image-a-53_1536926754022.jpg"} Odd how that restaurant has never been revealed. Since clenbuterol can be dangerous, it's a liability. You would think that even with a worthless government, that Mexico would at least do the bare minimum and close down the ranch, just to make sure that no other person got clenbuterol. "Although acute exposure to the examined concentrations of clentuberol or ractopamine did not induce lethality, prolonged exposure to 10 µg/L of clentuberol and ractopamine reduced lifespan" "Clenbuterol is a medication used to treat asthma and COPD in some countries, but it is not FDA-approved for human use in the United States. It is widely misused for possible anabolic and fat-burning effects, which have only been shown in animals. Clenbuterol causes toxicity at low doses. Symptoms include tremors, high heart rate, low blood potassium, seizures, and cardiac arrest" h And you are telling me that a restaurant is still selling this, without giving away where they got the meat, in order to save their own ass? Also Vitamin D is lethal. Its obvious you're not at all informed about anything you say(like everyone else around here) The restaurant WAS revealed,it was Sonora Grill where this pic was taken(& where Canelos meal was documented like all Clinton guests) Almost ALL restaurants in Mexico sell clen meat(as FIFA proved),& theres been countless athletes from every sport who were competing in Mexico & popped for larger doses of clen,& FIFA ran an investigation & concluded that even though 70% of the U17 wc had clen tests,they concluded that it has no effect whatsoever & that all the hotels & restaurants basically were selling clen meat(like all of Mexicans eat daily,because its everywhere) Canelo also did a hair follicle test which would show any drugs taken for at least 6 mos,& he had 1 taco amount of clen that decreased over 3 days exactly as expected (& the fighter isn't told til way later) Canelo has been the most tested fighter in history from a very young age hes demanded vada every fight including the Chavez Jr fight right before ggg,the fight where Jr demanded no vada so heroidia can cocktail him up obviously. Clen is a drug that stays detectable for ages in peds terms,& has almost no effect unless taken in extreme dosages over long periods of time (which is why since way before Canelo I've ALWAYS said its retá rded to claim clen makes someone a cheat) No fighter would ever use clen to cheat that is common sense,they would use Oxilofrine,Dbol,etc like Dildo Shyte or Saunders,drugs which are impossible to ingest accidentally & that leave the body very quickly & are 1000x stronger than a vitamin D equivalent. And to answer your question about the restaurant being closed down,no in Mexico nothing happens to them for selling clen meat.(Because humans lack the beta receptors that Cattle have,(which is why its used in beef intended for human consumption to begin with) Canelo 'may have eaten contaminated meat while with Bill Clinton' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-6167753/Canelo-Alvarez-eaten-infamous-contaminated-meat-dining-ex-president-Bill-Clinton.html?ito=native_share_article-top https://www.theguardian.com/football...taminated-meat https://www.theguardian.com/football...taminated-meat https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/28030000/wbc-reveals-new-rules-banned-drug-clenbuterol And you're actually trying to argue vitamin D is some deadly drug(anything's deadly if you od on it)

who lost 2 fights against an old Golovkin, go figure. *In your opinion (& according to all ggg fans EVERYONEEEES OPINION" :lol1:

That's not how this works buddy. You know what? If he didn't cheat why did they suspend him? I'll wait... stripped of the Ring Magazine belt too.....for not cheating

lol. there's no such thing in cheating in boxing unless you fail a post fight test for anabolic steroids. thing about that for a hard minute. That's not how this works buddy. You know what? If he didn't cheat why did they suspend him? I'll wait...

Hes a cheater for having eaten dinner with president Clinton at a restaurant? Did you know vitamin D is a steroid?(just about as effective as Clen especially the single taco amount.(an amount that is considered a clean test before Canelo & after Canelo VADA admitted they fcked up) i also assume you consider Charlo a cheat too then right?(he literally did the worst offense possible by flunking out of Vada entirely but he had Sulaifatass clean it up for him despite WMJ getting removed from the fight for testosterone) ​​​​​​ Odd how that restaurant has never been revealed. Since clenbuterol can be dangerous, it's a liability. You would think that even with a worthless government, that Mexico would at least do the bare minimum and close down the ranch, just to make sure that no other person got clenbuterol. "Although acute exposure to the examined concentrations of clentuberol or ractopamine did not induce lethality, prolonged exposure to 10 µg/L of clentuberol and ractopamine reduced lifespan" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3897430/ "Clenbuterol is a medication used to treat asthma and COPD in some countries, but it is not FDA-approved for human use in the United States. It is widely misused for possible anabolic and fat-burning effects, which have only been shown in animals. Clenbuterol causes toxicity at low doses. Symptoms include tremors, high heart rate, low blood potassium, seizures, and cardiac arrest" https://www.poison.org/articles/clenbuterol-unapproved-and-unsafe-201 And you are telling me that a restaurant is still selling this, without giving away where they got the meat, in order to save their own ass? Also Vitamin D is lethal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_D_toxicity https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3191699/

I literally just made this thread saying what I've been saying for ages,that Beterbieve is not the boogieman,hes not being ducked by Canelo & Canelo would beat him because hes tailor made for his style. I literally broke down how just because Beterbieve is the biggest "strongest" potential opponent who kod C level Gvozdyk the churlish lion,they coronate him the Kovalev killer & Canelo boogieman hes shook of, despite Kov accomplishing 10x more & despite him having tons of flaws & getting dropped by journeyman. The thing is I think Beterbieve would beat most the cw champs at least,& possibly Bivol,but his style is the opposite of Canelos kryptonite. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/bo...read-revisited Who wins at lhw no rehydration clause? Canelo vs Beterbieve I can't agree that this is a stylistic matchup that favours Canelo. GGG is a pressure fighter, and so is Canelo, and the two of them stood in the ring and traded, and many believe GGG was hard done by in at least one of those bouts. Regardless, nobody could argue that it wasn't close, those fights were definitely close and that's a fact. Beterbiev is also a pressure fighter, who hits very hard, and has a great chin, is much bigger than Golovkin, and will put it on you for 3 minutes of every round. I have the utmost respect for Canelo's body of work, and he might beat Beterbiev, but I think it is a bit presumptious of any person to state that they unequivocally know what the outcome of a fight between the two would be. My money would be on Beterbiev, but I wouldn't be 100% sure, and neither should anyone. Great fight, hope it happens one day.

Canelo has a shot with Beterbiev but I don't think it'll be some cake walk. I think Bivol is a very bad style for Ginger but both fights I'll be interested to see.

Beterbiev is not a C level fighter. Neither was Gvozdyk that he retired. Beterbiev is too big for Canelo right now. maybe if Canelo outgrows Super but that’s the weight he’s staying at. Even Canelo admitted he was giving up to many advantages at 175. can people stop being emotional like women and deal with facts?

I would really like that fight to happen because it would be intriguing but I don’t think Canelo and his team see any money or legacy in it due to Beterbiev having a very barren resume, being largely inactive, and being closer to 40 years old than 30 years old. So if Canelo fights the 36 year old, he’d be doing it literally only to please his critics. I find it really hard to believe that those critics pushing for this fight would become Canelo fans if he takes it. And I also have a feeling if Canelo does fight him and wins, Beterbiev’s age and resume will be brought up from Canelo critics. I can see a scenario where they would say “he waited until he got old” or “He’s lucky Beterbiev fights every 519 days”. There’s just so many possible excuses that can be made for Beterbiev. Thing is I think he’s really good and it would be a good tactical fight but I just don’t think he would be a good legacy fight. And def not money fight.

Hes the most slick boxer of his era(not like Lara lame ass style) that's for sure(his punch stats prove it), he's miles better all around fighter than Whitaker was, Whitaker was a more skilled boxer but he couldn't punch his way out a wet paper bag & he didn't have Canelos chin. https://youtu.be/7MH7EJe-9K4 who lost 2 fights against an old Golovkin, go figure.

Hes a cheater for having eaten dinner with president Clinton at a restaurant? Did you know vitamin D is a steroid?(just about as effective as Clen especially the single taco amount.(an amount that is considered a clean test before Canelo & after Canelo VADA admitted they fcked up) i also assume you consider Charlo a cheat too then right?(he literally did the worst offense possible by flunking out of Vada entirely but he had Sulaifatass clean it up for him despite WMJ getting removed from the fight for testosterone) ​​​​​​ Stop protecting this guy, how the fuck did you get caught in the first place, the multi-million business like "Canelo" got busted, there are no fucking excuses

Nobody gives a **** about his complexion. AlvaRoid and the rest of the guys you named (except evander) are a bunch of cheaters. They give themselves an advantage while putting other boxers at risk. You get caught cheating once you lose every bit of respect from me. Hes a cheater for having eaten dinner with president Clinton at a restaurant? Did you know vitamin D is a steroid?(just about as effective as Clen especially the single taco amount.(an amount that is considered a clean test before Canelo & after Canelo VADA admitted they fcked up) i also assume you consider Charlo a cheat too then right?(he literally did the worst offense possible by flunking out of Vada entirely but he had Sulaifatass clean it up for him despite WMJ getting removed from the fight for testosterone) ​​​​​​

**** outta here canelo plays with those euro bums genetically speaking, Canelo and the majority of mexicans are Euro-bums...to varying degrees. Self-loathing is such a terrible trait.

Alvarez is hated because of his complexion. If he looked like Ortiz or Munguía nobody would care. You don’t see fans name calling Holyfield, RJJ, Toney, Berto, Mosley, or Tyson Fury whom have all technically tested for anabolic steroids. Clenbuterol isn’t a steroid and in fact now has an approved threshold. Nobody gives a f*ck about his complexion. AlvaRoid and the rest of the guys you named (except evander) are a bunch of cheaters. They give themselves an advantage while putting other boxers at risk. You get caught cheating once you lose every bit of respect from me.