Was Marvelous Marvin Hagler robbed vs SRL?

You posted in my thread, I think. Hagler gave up a LOT of the early rounds going orthodox...I was told he gave up 2 rounds, but it seemed like he gave up the first 5 or even the first 6. And the second half he started putting in work, but SRL was doing great too. Exactly!!! That fight happened before my time. And I generally favor the aggressive fighter. But when I watched it, I couldn't believe anyone though that decision was controversial. The one 10-2 card is more believable, by far, than a Hagler win. You cannot find 7 rounds for Hagler in that fight. You described it as I saw it.

As a kid HELL YES but I was Bias and I am still Bias RIP Hagler! No serious As I've gotten older and went back and watched it over and over...it was likely more of a DRAW! Ray Leonard did a masterful job stealing Rounds late with Flurries leaving a lasting impression on the judges to close out the rounds overshadowing what Hagler was doing most of the round. It was a excellent strategy and the right strategy. Also Ray Leonard admits catching him at the right time especially coming off that war with Mugabi and Hagler was getting older and slowing down at that time Both Boxing ICONS and True Legends! They don't make them like Hagler anymore RIP {"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","title":"BGB%2BHagler%2BBald%2BComb%2BGIF.gif","data-attachmentid":30821393}

Watch the fight without sound. SRL was probably up 5-1 or 6-1. Hagler didn't even get started at all until the 2nd half of the fight. The narrative that SRL was shoe-shining or only fighting at the end of the round is directly refuted by the video evidence. He dominated half the rounds, and the other half were competitive. As clear a win as you can ever have in a 12 round decision/big fight. You posted in my thread, I think. Hagler gave up a LOT of the early rounds going orthodox...I was told he gave up 2 rounds, but it seemed like he gave up the first 5 or even the first 6. And the second half he started putting in work, but SRL was doing great too.

If you or anyone else gives that fight to Hagler, they have no clue how to score a fight. Simple as that. Yeah, ok kid. Thanks for your assinine opinion.

Maybe to you. But not to damn near half of the fans, commenators, analysts and other pros whove watched it. If you or anyone else gives that fight to Hagler, they have no clue how to score a fight. Simple as that.

Watch the fight without sound. SRL was probably up 5-1 or 6-1. Hagler didn't even get started at all until the 2nd half of the fight. The narrative that SRL was shoe-shining or only fighting at the end of the round is directly refuted by the video evidence. He dominated half the rounds, and the other half were competitive. As clear a win as you can ever have in a 12 round decision/big fight. Maybe to you. But not to damn near half of the fans, commenators, analysts and other pros whove watched it.

Like actually watch the fight and not the last 30 seconds of each round, clown. Watch the fight without sound. SRL was probably up 5-1 or 6-1. Hagler didn't even get started at all until the 2nd half of the fight. The narrative that SRL was shoe-shining or only fighting at the end of the round is directly refuted by the video evidence. He dominated half the rounds, and the other half were competitive. As clear a win as you can ever have in a 12 round decision/big fight.

lol like how...will never take your scorecard on a fight seriously Like actually watch the fight and not the last 30 seconds of each round, clown.

I scored it for SRL.

The perception that Leonard coming out of retirement and performing so well had everyone looking at him during the fight. Hagler just came out of a war and against Mugabi so the perception was that he was going to run over Leonard. I have watch the fight so many times and it is so close. Sometimes I give it to Hagler, sometimes to Leonard. A draw would had been better but that is the way the decision went. I always liked Hagler better but that fight showed how great Leonard was.

Excellent post mate. Thank’s brother appreciated.......I grew up as a young boy and teen in this era and there has not been an era since the 4 kings and the sheer number of brilliant fights.....I was obsessed with this era and knew every angle to it

Hagler is my fav of the four kings but I have to say that Leonard won it 7-5. Hagler just came on to late. They were fighting Leonard’s fight and he looked like the ring general in the majority of the rounds. Hagler wanted a 15 round fight which was denied and I think he would have won a rematch but he lost this won.

Leonard won the fight by controlling distance and momentum

I always felt leonard won the rounds more clearer than hagler....leonard was up 5 rounds after the 6th round.....with rounds 1,2,3,4,6 for sugar ray... hagler took the 5th.....then hagler won rounds 7,8,9....leonard then got a 2nd wind and won the 10th and put a stamp on it with a masterful 11th round......no one one ever really hurt hagler so the excuse that leonard punches had little effect also applies to 99% of the other fighters who faced hagler and also to the fact leonard was also naturally 2 weights below hagler. rounds 6,9 and 11 leonard traded evenly with him and pretty much took everything hagler through at him. hagler was a brilliant box fighter and people think he was a just a tough come forward beast but hagler was much more than that....best switch hitter of all time , brilliant counter puncher who was at his best when the fighter pressed him and his performance against sibson was brutal and he sliced him up like a surgeon going to work on an operating table. haglers achilles was actually boxers and slick fighters and leonard used his natural ability to outbox him. I grew up in the 80’s and hagler was the most intimidating and hardest MF to ever lace up the gloves. Such a sad moment when I heard he died yesterday and he was taking away to early. R.I.P Marvellous Marvin Hagler Excellent post mate.

Nope. I thought Leonard legitimately won.

The whole goal of boxing is to knock your opponent. You do that by damaging them. SRL had no intention of being aggressive or go for a knockout. I disagree completely. The goal of boxing is to win and you can achieve that in a few different ways. My point is that you don't get to decide that SRLs punches weren't effective and Hagler's were. Both resisted the punches landed on them and went the distance. That approach means you've basically started judging the fight with Hagler at an advantage. He didn't need to land as many punches as SRL and you'd still score for Hagler. That's using prior knowledge rather than just scoring this fight.

I think the 'damage' argument is the only one that gives Hagler a shot. People assume that Hagler's punches did more more damage and Leonard's were ineffectual. That allows you to count MMH's punches as being worth more than Leonard's and then you can find early rounds for Hagler. The whole goal of boxing is to knock your opponent. You do that by damaging them. SRL had no intention of being aggressive or go for a knockout.

The fight was boring. Hagler was chasing SRL by following him step for step. Not cutting off the ring and his combos were so telegraphed Stevie Wonder could have avoided them. Very UnHagler like. SRL was moving and tapping. Softer than glancing blows. Hagler said a challenger can't pitty pat the crown off his head. The judges proved that it can happen Any other 2 names and no one is talking about this snozefest.

Like most on here I've watched the fight multiple times and always tried to be open minded every time, but I've never given Hagler the win. Leonard just out boxed him, punches have to be solid enough to score not to rock an opponent every time they land a shot.

He gave away first 4 rounds and lost the 9th and 12. Those are the fire sure facts. I couldn’t give hagler anything more than a draw.