It's funny how many people hate Canelo so much that they throw all logic & reason out the window. Reminds me of Trump whom regardless of what you think about him,made 1/3rd the population suspend all logic & reason out of sheer hatred because they have issues with the real world.
Lets talk all Canelos contemporary rivals,thats what all fighters can be measured by, their rivals & atg rivals.
Charlo,Ggg,Lara,Kovalev, Beterbieve,Bivol,Andrade,BJS,Plant honorable mention to green non champ Benevidez.
Charlo is a great fighter in his own right skillwise just like Jacobs & others(haven't separated from the pack though) ,he even surprised many by congratulating Canelo on chasing greatness by going after kov(Charlo said he too would love to do similar one day & acknowledged that a lhw champ kov was considered more dangerous than a mw champ by default so he said Canelo isnt ducking him(1st time he said that)
can anyone honestly say with a straight face that the same ggg whom was being hyped up as an ATG Hagler killer a few yrs ago,has not had his career relegated to an also ran in the span of a few yrs because of Canelos accomplishments & status as who took gs soul?(in boxing speak its textbook soul taking almost as bad as Wilder not by asswhoopin but by persona shattering)
If Canelos resume was so easy in any way you would have far more elite fighters without as huge a gulf between them & Canelo in strength of competition,& fighters like ggg who is very skillful, would have jumped divisions like Canelo has(the smaller man)
Fans have gone from a beligerent Attitude of "Ggg fights like a warrior by knocking you the fck out,not that fake pssy runner style like Canelo & he doesn't duck like businessman like Canelo" to now having to make every excuse imaginable on behalf of "Gennadiy formerly known as Gennady" & those same fans still flame gingers daily about what a cherrypicker fraud he supposedly is.
Of course they spin "they just want me to lose, they'll never be happy otherwise" into:"DUUUUR Canelos admitting to ducking Beterbieve, Duuur, Beterbieve is on twitter denying an offer was made" (its like no sht shirlock Gbp inquired about Beterbieves status & was told he was fighting the nail(which he was,& it's a stupid fight for Canelo to have made, before he beat the nail he wasn't the best LHW champ,Kov still was after his schooling of Alvarez after his 1st actual ko loss damage wise & Kov was an infinitely bigger name than the beast from the east euro
Alvarez is only able to wade into the middle & super-middle weight divisions because this era is extremely poor.
Alvarez is a great fighter, but he is not a all-time great middle weight.
Ward didn't have controversial fights?(like both fights against his best scalp Kov whom Canelo slept without controversy?)
Show me a fighter & I'll show you several fights they could've or should've lost. Canelo has won close split decisions in vegas where Stitch Duran can tell you 1st hand is the best commission on earth with the judges who are handpicked as the best track record 99% time.The fact Lara got a split decision shows how overblown this judge bs is v Canelo,he won that fight clearly imho,hes had 2 outright wide cards 1 vs Floyd & 1 vs Ggg,
Ggg got to literally pick the judges in rematch,& got to keep the same judge who said he won,& judges picked in rematch were whom gave g a W vs Jacobs & had ggg wide in prior fights.
According to you Undefeated p4p#1 unified Ggg is the weakest link? Jacobs gs best win weakest link? Lineal Smith,& Trout & Cotto & Lara & BJS & Plant all weakest links? Thats like 90% of the champs between 160-168 & Kov was 1/3rd of lhw who was rated #1/ or 2 til Beterbieve beat the nail.
Tds is what you & your ilk spew forth,Canelo Derraingment Syndrome along with TDS is vomited Everytime someone doesn't call every champ a bum when Canelo fights them.
You can remember things however you want. I remember Canelo beating Cotto for the MW belt. He also dropped that belt to avoid his mandatory. And who was it, Liam Smith, that he beat for the 168 belt? And then he beats a washed out, liquored up Kovalev for the 175 belt, but asking him to fight Bivol or Beterbiev is, and I quote, "wanting to see him lose."
So yeah, you can call it CDS, but I don't think it would be too much of a stretch to beat an old Cotto for MW, Liam Smith for 168, and fresh out the bushes Kovalev for 175.
Canelo has had controversial wins thought his career and gotten the benefit of favorable scoring. His loss to Mayweather was total. He didn't win a single round. How the hell did he get a draw on one judges card. Failed a drug test. Fought 5 fights in the Middleweight division and claimed to be a JM. Dropped his belt rather than face Golovkin. Uses weight restrictions as a matter of course not to mention not giving his opponents time to properly prepare. Yeah he's a good fighter but hes not someone I respect. He avoided Charlo and Andrade for most of his career. He lost both fights to Golovkin. Takes the franchise belt from the WBC and not is so two faced he's now complaining about multiple champions in each sanctioning body.
“Anybody.” Lol. In that case “anybody” can say “154-168 is easy” and just stay at one division their whole career while fighting the “weakest link.” Steve Rolls 2?
Canelo did the same thing. Told Golovkin he was next then renaged and fought Khan who had a very suspect chin.
Team GGG has always expressed reluctance about moving up a single division saying they're not trying to give up a size advantage, so yeah, there's no way he'd risk moving up multiple divisions like Canelo who's a champ in 4 and ranked in 5 including welterweight.
I am of the same mindset. I have never gotten disrespectful with a poster or racial or any of that yet quite a few boxers have put me on ignore because they couldnt defeat in a boxing argument. Its not my fault you chose to hold strong to a flawed stance and flawed pov.
Thats exactly what you did to me because I said Morales was a straight up down fighter in reference to Mayweather , you couldnt argue the point so put on ignore so dont preach on a soapbox before you look in the mirror.
Anyone who uses the phrase "Canelo hater" is a stupid ass fanboy who are the true haters.
We don't hate Canelo. We point out the very obvious criticisms he DESERVES.
Ask me,a "Canelo hater" where I have this dude p4p and ask me about what I think about his skills in the ring? But nah, you only focus on other things right?
Flip the script. How many of you stupid ass fanboys called GGG a bum and exaggerated how great Canelos win was over him.
So many of you guys literally created your own boxing criteria and BRAGGED how score cards of 115-112x2 and 114 was DOMINANT .
For most of you he wasn't even p4p top 10 neitherless the best fighter in the division. Isnt that right?
But nah, I'm gonna take something GGG said back when he was trying to make a name for himself in 2013 and use it to define his whole career despite the fact GGG was already in his 30s when he said it..
Who took GGG up on his offer from 154-168? NO ONE, so GGG went his own way yet you all need to create imaginary foes that GGG could not overcome because unlike Canelo ge didn't have the A side leverage.
Oh Ward wanted to fight GGG? When? Because as much as you pretend this is real Ward couldn't even make 168 in 2015!
Like isn't it weird how Canelo has tough controversial fights yet somehow ALWAYS gets the benefit of the doubt? It happens over and over and over again yet you guys are so willing to bail him out.
I WONDER WHY THAT IS.
Ward didn't have controversial fights?(like both fights against his best scalp Kov whom Canelo slept without controversy?)
Show me a fighter & I'll show you several fights they could've or should've lost. Canelo has won close split decisions in vegas where Stitch Duran can tell you 1st hand is the best commission on earth with the judges who are handpicked as the best track record 99% time.The fact Lara got a split decision shows how overblown this judge bs is v Canelo,he won that fight clearly imho,hes had 2 outright wide cards 1 vs Floyd & 1 vs Ggg,
Ggg got to literally pick the judges in rematch,& got to keep the same judge who said he won,& judges picked in rematch were whom gave g a W vs Jacobs & had ggg wide in prior fights.
Yet another "I hate GGG" thread with a touch of Trump derangement syndrome thrown in.
I'd expect nothing more from a clown like you.
Yeah, anybody can jump divisions and find the weakest link to fight. Your boy is a joke and a hype job. Makes perfect sense why you'd be a fan, chump
According to you Undefeated p4p#1 unified Ggg is the weakest link? Jacobs gs best win weakest link? Lineal Smith,& Trout & Cotto & Lara & BJS & Plant all weakest links? Thats like 90% of the champs between 160-168 & Kov was 1/3rd of lhw who was rated #1/ or 2 til Beterbieve beat the nail.
Tds is what you & your ilk spew forth,Canelo Derraingment Syndrome along with TDS is vomited Everytime someone doesn't call every champ a bum when Canelo fights them.
Anyone who uses the phrase "Canelo hater" is a stupid ass fanboy who are the true haters.
We don't hate Canelo. We point out the very obvious criticisms he DESERVES.
Ask me,a "Canelo hater" where I have this dude p4p and ask me about what I think about his skills in the ring? But nah, you only focus on other things right?
Flip the script. How many of you stupid ass fanboys called GGG a bum and exaggerated how great Canelos win was over him.
So many of you guys literally created your own boxing criteria and BRAGGED how score cards of 115-112x2 and 114 was DOMINANT .
For most of you he wasn't even p4p top 10 neitherless the best fighter in the division. Isnt that right?
But nah, I'm gonna take something GGG said back when he was trying to make a name for himself in 2013 and use it to define his whole career despite the fact GGG was already in his 30s when he said it..
Who took GGG up on his offer from 154-168? NO ONE, so GGG went his own way yet you all need to create imaginary foes that GGG could not overcome because unlike Canelo ge didn't have the A side leverage.
Oh Ward wanted to fight GGG? When? Because as much as you pretend this is real Ward couldn't even make 168 in 2015!
Like isn't it weird how Canelo has tough controversial fights yet somehow ALWAYS gets the benefit of the doubt? It happens over and over and over again yet you guys are so willing to bail him out.
I WONDER WHY THAT IS.
I remember when GGG use to say That anybody from 154-175 could get a fight, he almost fought Tommy Oostheizen (175). Then when ward came knocking GGG said 160.
what Canelo is doing is unprecedented, don’t let any of the haters tell you otherwise. They were making similar noises when Manny was beating ATGs and jumping weigh classes. Once Canelo retires, his body of work shine.
Yet another "I hate GGG" thread with a touch of Trump derangement syndrome thrown in.
I'd expect nothing more from a clown like you.
Yeah, anybody can jump divisions and find the weakest link to fight. Your boy is a joke and a hype job. Makes perfect sense why you'd be a fan, chump
Yet they dont jump divisions and still fight the weakest links in their division aside from maybe like 3 fights...
I hate what Canelo does so far as weakening his opponents before the fight even begins. I didn't like it when Floyd did it to him either. Being the "A-side" today is basically a license to cheat. Saying that nobody is forcing the opponent to sign the contract is phcking weak.
So no, not everyone can do the same.
I wish more ggg fans/Charlo etc. Chimed in,I don't get my feelings hurt none, You can talk all the sht imaginable to me as long as you explain about boxing pov too,even when I've put ppl on ignore I removed them from ignore right away.(only exception was some clowns that trolled me for yrs without ever actually talking boxing) Only put someone on ignore because they were just flaming with zero boxing talk
I am of the same mindset. I have never gotten disrespectful with a poster or racial or any of that yet quite a few boxers have put me on ignore because they couldnt defeat in a boxing argument. Its not my fault you chose to hold strong to a flawed stance and flawed pov.
Yet another "I hate GGG" thread with a touch of Trump derangement syndrome thrown in.
I'd expect nothing more from a clown like you.
Yeah, anybody can jump divisions and find the weakest link to fight. Your boy is a joke and a hype job. Makes perfect sense why you'd be a fan, chump
but instead you have fighters flip flopping on why they hate canelo.
He ducking charlo but charlo is talking about CW, Vaccines, Age limits, instead of taking on the fight vs Benavidez and if he wins almost guarantee him a shot at 168.
and he KO'd kovalev why didnt he fight beterbieve comes out beterbiev didnt want any smoke.
He was ducking GGG, fights em twice and comes out with the victory..... now hes waiting for GGG to get old.
Canelo just keep doing what your're doing.
I wish more ggg fans/Charlo etc. Chimed in,I don't get my feelings hurt none, You can talk all the sht imaginable to me as long as you explain about boxing pov too,even when I've put ppl on ignore I removed them from ignore right away.(only exception was some clowns that trolled me for yrs without ever actually talking boxing) Only put someone on ignore because they were just flaming with zero boxing talk
but instead you have fighters flip flopping on why they hate canelo.
He ducking charlo but charlo is talking about CW, Vaccines, Age limits, instead of taking on the fight vs Benavidez and if he wins almost guarantee him a shot at 168.
and he KO'd kovalev why didnt he fight beterbieve comes out beterbiev didnt want any smoke.
He was ducking GGG, fights em twice and comes out with the victory..... now hes waiting for GGG to get old.
Canelo just keep doing what your're doing.