Does the fact Fury tried to commit suicide indicate mental weakness?

Absolutely. But you need to be smart enough to know the difference between illness and weakness to ask a question like that. Nubianpiye goes into the "forum tools" folder. I expect we'll see a pattern from him :eek:

I like how people try to say he uses it as an excuse for his drug offenses How come he mentioned in all the way back in 2012 then? & in 2014 into 2015 it was clear he was becoming severely depressed. He did an interview with Kugan on IFL couple of months before the Klitscko bout and he was totally depressed. Fury also shows clear signs of bi polar disorder which he has been diagnosed with. So all you drug test failure people need to jog on It can actually be both. You can have a genuine mental illness and still be using it as a convenient, BS excuse/deflection as and when it suits you. I personally know people who have done this and if you read the news you'll notice most criminals do it. They always have PTSD, depression etc and try to use it as some sort of mitigation. I have to say though, this is more interesting and of a higher quality than your average troll thread.

Suicide does not come from mental weakness. It comes from depression. Depression, we can’t see it, but it is something that physically affects your brain. There are mental illnesses that actually affect your brain physically. Most people still don’t know that, usually men who try to be extra tough. But plenty of studies and brain scans show that some mental illnesses are actually illnesses that can be seen doing their job on the human brain.

Am I right in thinking he suffers from, or has suffered from, real mental health issues? People suffering from those kind of problems are some of the strongest people mentally you could meet. They fight every day, more than some people do in a lifetime.

Dumb post. Whatever mental health issues Fury may have outside a boxing ring, he is 100% focused inside it. Leave the rest up to the experts.

It's not about Fury, I don't care much for the guy out the ring. It's the attitude here about mental illness. Hopefully karma doesn't bite you. What exactly did you call out? That mentally ill people are weak? That people who attempt suicide are quitters? You're an ignorant fool man. Live with that. No I didn't state that and no point did I mention mental Illness others did. Not everyone who commits suicide has mental health problems. You and other people made it about mental health, not me I made it about Fury looking for a way out because things got hard.

Someone who would take a steroid and bash someone in the head is the lowest of the low little surprise that you agree with that type of behaviour but take issue with someone calling it out. It's not about Fury, I don't care much for the guy out the ring. It's the attitude here about mental illness. Hopefully karma doesn't bite you. What exactly did you call out? That mentally ill people are weak? That people who attempt suicide are quitters? You're an ignorant fool man. Live with that.

OP, you're trash. Just a disgusting human being. I hope you're never unfortunate enough to suffer from mental illness. All this vileness because you don't like that a man won a boxing match. I sincerely hope that you're a child and just don't know any better. Some of the other comments here are just as bad. You're all fine cheering on rapists and women beaters but have to throw shade at mental illness. What a joke. I only bothered even making a post in this place in case there are any members here , particularly young fans, that might be struggling. I don't want them reading your rubbish and feeling shame about how they're feeling. I don't want them thinking they're weak because of people like you. Someone who would take a steroid and bash someone in the head is the lowest of the low little surprise that you agree with that type of behaviour but take issue with someone calling it out.

So basically Fury is a dirty lying cheating gypo. I get it steroids for the cheating sleeping in a caravan for the dirt and he lied about mental illness? Dirty lying cheating gypo OP, you're trash. Just a disgusting human being. I hope you're never unfortunate enough to suffer from mental illness. All this vileness because you don't like that a man won a boxing match. I sincerely hope that you're a child and just don't know any better. Some of the other comments here are just as bad. You're all fine cheering on rapists and women beaters but have to throw shade at mental illness. What a joke. I only bothered even making a post in this place in case there are any members here , particularly young fans, that might be struggling. I don't want them reading your rubbish and feeling shame about how they're feeling. I don't want them thinking they're weak because of people like you.

So basically Fury is a dirty lying cheating gypo. I get it steroids for the cheating sleeping in a caravan for the dirt and he lied about mental illness? Dirty lying cheating gypo

Saying depression indicates "mental weakness" is like saying leukemia indicates "blood weakness" - yes, of course those things are literally true. If you are severely depressed at a point in time, then your mental health is weak at that time. Yes, depression is often a chronic condition, so someone who's been there before is always at a higher risk of it happening again. The question seems to imagine that depression might caused by some kind of "mental weakness" that is distinct from the depression itself. Depression is a very complex illness, as are most mental health conditions. I'm pretty sure that if you can prove definitively what causes depression, you will win a Nobel Prize.

Its all a lie. All this mental health rubbish was a ploy to deflect from the sh i t coming his way due to his ban for taking steroids. Fury is a gyppo. That means fury is scum. He is a cheat and a liar and a criminal from a lineage of liars, cheats and criminals. Its in the gyppo blood.

I would say it does lack internal fortitude and self confidence but we have to ask ourselves was Tyson really that sick or did he play on it more than it really was. Most people who try to commit suicide usually succeed because they are so low and have no way out......people forget that fury was living it up in France during the football and was getting drunk every night with the fans and he was overweight then. He might be Bi-polar but I don’t think he was ever that mentally ill

To attempt to commit suicide requires a large amount of fragility does the fact that fury attempted and failed highlight an as yet unexploited mental frailty that’ll likely be exposed further when he takes that first loss? To commit suicide is to essentially to quit on life so chances are he could be forced to quit in the ring as well? No it indicates the man has his own personal issues/demons as have many people in life who have suffered from the same kind off struggles in life.. The fact that he was able to overcome and continue fighting his own personal depression etc then come back speaks for itself.. He could very well be dead or in prison or homeless or out committing crimes yet he endured/overcame and returned by dethroning a previously unbeaten champion and reclaiming his belts..

It is hard to believe that the same warrior with no quit we've seen in the ring would be someone who tries to commit suicide. If it's true it must have been the mass amount of substances to make him feel so weak and pathetic. If you think about it...it actually goes hand in hand not the opposite like you suggest. Boxing is a cruel, dangerous and brutal sport If you have a war you leave a piece of yourself in that ring, you don't leave it the same man as you entered it. You basically have to be willing to die in a ring, no self-preservation instinct. So it's probably more conducive of people with lack of regard for their well being or health to be good boxers...in fact we know this to be true. The ones who care about their health or aren't good enough to protect their health quit...that's the way of all combat sports. Fury would never quit in a boxing ring "If I had no eyes I'd still fight" "If my two arms fell off I'm still fighting"

It is hard to believe that the same warrior with no quit we've seen in the ring would be someone who tries to commit suicide. If it's true it must have been the mass amount of substances to make him feel so weak and pathetic.

All of that theorising for a cheating steroid talking cowardly gypo �� he took steroids tried to commit suicide because he wasn’t popular and lied that’s it

Fury's mentality in the ring is almost unfathomable. He's mentally untouchable in that square circle.

Abhorrence does not equate to abstinence, and, in his case abhorrence is used as the ultimate form of smarty-pantsism. In plain words, men who truly believe they know nothing don't teach. Teacher is a position of knowledge. Socrates was a smartass and a hypocrite. What Socrates meant was that realising how little you know is the first step on the road to knowledge and wisdom. The solution to what modern psychologists call the Dunning-Krueger Effect. If you haven't heard of that, look it up. Thinking about it, the death of Socrates is an outstanding example of how suicide can be evidence of the highest mental and moral strength, rather than weakness. You call him a hypocrite, so you obviously don't know that the reason Socrates chose to end his own life by drinking hemlock was to avoid having his philosophical/political legacy tainted by accusations of hypocrisy. Socrates was one of the founding fathers of Athenian democracy, and a strong advocate of civic obedience to the law, the belief that any citizen who had the right to vote had a moral duty to follow the laws of the elected government. As a result of political/philosophical divisions in Athens, he was put on trial and found guilty of impiety - refusing to acknowledge the gods of the city - and sentenced to death by poisoning. The people who passed that sentence never expected it to be carried out. They expected him to either renounce his impious ideas and ask for pardon, or leave Athens and live out his life in exile. But to Socrates, his philosophical and political ideas were more important than his life, and he decided to demonstrate that by refusing to renounce anything, staying put, and accepting the lawful verdict of the court, which he carried out himself. Crazy? By our standards, yes. Hypocritical? No way!

I thought it was just because he was addicted. I don’t think he was mentally weak just too damn high and drunk. Meet too I didn't think he was mentally ill just thought he had a problem with narcotics and alcohol