Any version of Floyd vs same weight version of Manny.

6 years later...people still arguing manny and Floyd....what a plague.

Manny agreed to everything plus took the Floyd camp to court the Floyds had to settle out of court for defamation of character. Thats documented. Floyd had to agree to the ridiculous weight penalty demand because he knew he had previously welched Juan Marquez on the scales and just paid the penality to be a weight bully. Thats documented. It was Floyd's fight to make. He made it when he felt confident that he could beat Manny with no adversity. Aka low risk. You have been proven wrong all the way and you still just bring a total lie, you gotta be fked in the head or really dense. You were asked to PROVE when Manny agreed to full random testing no cut of dates , you cannot provide it because it never happened until they fought.

You're too emotional regarding anything related to Floyd. Manny never agreed to the testing demands without stipulations. Floyd did agree to the ridiculous weight penalty clause that Manny wanted. Remove your personal feelings and go from what has been documented. Manny agreed to everything plus took the Floyd camp to court the Floyds had to settle out of court for defamation of character. Thats documented. Floyd had to agree to the ridiculous weight penalty demand because he knew he had previously welched Juan Marquez on the scales and just paid the penality to be a weight bully. Thats documented. It was Floyd's fight to make. He made it when he felt confident that he could beat Manny with no adversity. Aka low risk.

i know ...but you brought up corrales and gatti as if it's relevant to floyd vs pac The Floyd who fought those guys was far different from the Floyd who Manny called out

Floyd reads better than you lol , Floyd schools Manny from 147 up is what I said, he stops Manny from 128 to 140. You slipped up again dont so hasty your stupid comes right on out. hahahaha there u go again. :lol1: just look at my sig and u will see why videos don't lie. I've been telling u about that time and time again. :lol1:

just like he stopped an injured pac who make him like a coward running and hugging in the ring. "YOU FIGHT SCARED SON!!!"- may sr. see even his own father know that his son is a coward. :lol1: Floyd reads better than you lol , Floyd schools Manny from 147 up is what I said, he stops Manny from 128 to 140. You slipped up again dont so hasty your stupid comes right on out.

Only he would stop any version of Manny from 128 to 140 and school him any weight 147 and above . When Floyd was fighting Genaro Hernandez Manny was fighting Agapito Sanchez who had 7 losses at the time, Hernandez would stop Sanchez its a different level of fighter, Genario had 1 loss to Oscar not 7 losses , JMM beat Agapito 2 yrs earlier . You got no idea. just like he stopped an injured pac who make him like a coward running and hugging in the ring. "YOU FIGHT SCARED SON!!!"- may sr. see even his own father know that his son is a coward. :lol1:

oh yes the cw 128 and on the weigh in floyd will weght 135 lbs and pay pac every excess lbs just like he did to jmm. :lol1: Only he would stop any version of Manny from 128 to 140 and school him any weight 147 and above . When Floyd was fighting Genaro Hernandez Manny was fighting Agapito Sanchez who had 7 losses at the time, Hernandez would stop Sanchez its a different level of fighter, Genario had 1 loss to Oscar not 7 losses , JMM beat Agapito 2 yrs earlier . You got no idea.

Manny would have wanted a 128 CW and Floyd would have knocked him out. The difference between Daggums world of story telling and what was actually in the realms of reality, they were only 3 mths apart and a Manny CW the fight could happen. Your daydream fantasy of Manny stopping a CW Cotto and a drained Oscar then fighting a Corrales Floyd is not how it is,. Anywhere through out their careers where they could have actually fought , Floyd beats him every time, the earlier it is the more chance that Floyd will stop him, thats real . oh yes the cw 128 and on the weigh in floyd will weght 135 lbs and pay pac every excess lbs just like he did to jmm. :lol1:

manny was at 122 at that time. i sure hope a 130 pound floyd would beat a 122 pound manny. i dont think thats the type of fantasy comparison most people were going for. Manny would have wanted a 128 CW and Floyd would have knocked him out. The difference between Daggums world of story telling and what was actually in the realms of reality, they were only 3 mths apart and a Manny CW the fight could happen. Your daydream fantasy of Manny stopping a CW Cotto and a drained Oscar then fighting a Corrales Floyd is not how it is,. Anywhere through out their careers where they could have actually fought , Floyd beats him every time, the earlier it is the more chance that Floyd will stop him, thats real .

You're too emotional regarding anything related to Floyd. Manny never agreed to the testing demands without stipulations. Floyd did agree to the ridiculous weight penalty clause that Manny wanted. Remove your personal feelings and go from what has been documented. its documented floyd changed the money from 50-50 to something more like 90-10. you dont do that if you want a fight. 40 million flat fee with no ppv? for a fight that would net both guys 200 million or more? thats a preposterous duck but thats what floyd does when hes cornered. he ran out of real estate to run in so he just did the only thing he could. made some really sorry ass excuse that he hoped his sycophants wouldnt catch on to and it actually worked because if ou remember at the time there were floyd fans saying manny is ducking hes not taking the 40 million! in retrospect obv it was floyd who was ducking but they were unable to use reason to see that was a crazy thing to do. manny and floyd were literally selling the same amount of ppvs at the time. why wold he let floyd take home 400 million to his 40? nonsense. and the fact that floyd did that shows that he was never serious about making the fight. it was just a bluff. his testing program was a farce anyway as we found out it let him cheat but wow that was embarrassing for his legacy. floyd wasnt even confident he would beat pac while he was using a fake testing program that let him cheat and that wouldnt let manny cheat. thats telling. even when they did finally fight floyd fought extremely cautious and wasnt able to land anything solid. he was shook to the core. i dont think great fighters get shook like that. great fighters want to fight the best. its what drives them. thats not floyd at all. he was always thnking of ways out of fights, not ways to get fights. he reminds me of a more talented joe calzaghe but unfortunatley floyd didnt have the im scared of flying excuse. that would have been handy for him

Manny vs hussain Floyd vs Corrales was 3mths apart, that Floyd knocks out that Manny . manny was at 122 at that time. i sure hope a 130 pound floyd would beat a 122 pound manny. i dont think thats the type of fantasy comparison most people were going for.

floyd never wanted the fight i dont know why people still pretend with all the evidence out there. when floyd was with top rank he ducked all the guys top rank wanted him to fight. then when he left top rank he said all he has to do is take the test...then he changed the money so no thats not all he had to do. manny was past his best when they fought but so was floyd so its not really possible to make a determination on who would win, all we know is floyd didnt have the confidence that he wold win so thats not a good sign, then again he didnt have the conifidence to even beat marg and chose to fight sharmba mitchell and judah coming off a loss to bum baldomir instead of marg which is what severed their relationship but yeah keep blaming arum for floyds actions. arum didnt want him to fight those bum ass dudes. there are loads of articles on it. floyd refused to fight the guys arum wanted and signed to fight sharmba on his own, arum sued and hbo brokered a peace deal so the fight could happen. arum wanted floyd to take more money and fight his in house guys who were much better. floyd wouldnt play ball. 7 million for marg or 3 million for sharmba? we know what the "money man" chose. "Mayweather and adviser Alan Haymon broke their promotional agreement with Top Rank promoter Bob Arum, and signed a one-fight deal with Dan Goossen, who is promoting Saturday's card. An enraged Arum sued. Eventually, HBO backed down and convinced Mayweather and Haymon to settle with Top Rank." as you can see, floyd went out of his way not to fight the guys arum wanted. oh you want me to fight marg well you cant make me im figthing bum ass unranked mitchell! usually fighters leave promoters because they cant get them the good fights. floyd left because his promoter wanted the good fights. unbelievable! floyd wanted complete opponent control and he got it. did he ever fight a real threat after leaving top rank? the answer is no. all soft fighters, old fighters, drained fighters. arum at least was trying to get him to fight the good fights, without arum he is prob tank davis his entire career

see my sig. if an injured, past prime, part time boxer and a full time senator pac can do this to a full of IV floyd imagine what a healthy prime pac would do to floyd. i don't give floyd a chance to finished the 12 rounds against a healthy prime pac.

Dang I didn’t realize this thread was still a thing! Nice participation in the poll.

Ive always believed it was Arum he lies to his fighters, it was revealed by Koncz after the motel room meet between Floyd and Manny that they were not aware of the efforts Floyd did to try and make the fight, I believe Arum is doing the same information withholding to TC in the Spence dealings. If Floyd had of beat Manny in 2010 he kills Arums goose that laid the golden egg, Arum milked Manny out before he would let him fight Floyd. Arum is very two faced . He's the epitome of two faced yet somehow, still has credibility to some people on here. It's no coincidence that all of his biggest fighters of the past 20 years has left him.

Bob Arum lol. When you dudes gonna just hold Floyd accountable he was his own boss right. The minute Manny agreed to all of Floyd's testing bs, Floyd moved the goalposts some more. Just face it man. In 2009 Floyd backed out of the fight because he wasn't confident that he could beat Manny without catching some heat. Manny wasn't a slow, flat footed guy that Floyd could run from all night. Floyd wanted more Carlos Baldymirs. You're too emotional regarding anything related to Floyd. Manny never agreed to the testing demands without stipulations. Floyd did agree to the ridiculous weight penalty clause that Manny wanted. Remove your personal feelings and go from what has been documented.

i know ...but you brought up corrales and gatti as if it's relevant to floyd vs pac Manny vs hussain Floyd vs Corrales was 3mths apart, that Floyd knocks out that Manny .

Mayweather was a smart, offensive fighter not like Manny Pacquiao who is a complete offense powerhouse. Different styles entirely. i know ...but you brought up corrales and gatti as if it's relevant to floyd vs pac

you really think corrales or gatting (RIP to both)had a chance vs manny?...pac's offense was more destructive than floyd's ever was...just sayin! Mayweather was a smart, offensive fighter not like Manny Pacquiao who is a complete offense powerhouse. Different styles entirely.