So which tactics do you think each fighter will utilise?
I think Fury will make a song and dance about walking AJ down, but in reality, I think he's much too smart to get drawn into that trap.
Don't get me wrong, I think Fury could win with those tactics, however going into a shoot-out with Joshua is risky, the dude can punch and has a good technique.
I think Tyson will look to box at range for the first half the fight, and then start putting it on him when he thinks that AJ is starting to tire.
As for AJ, I think the best bet is to come forward and bait Fury into a brawl, if he tries to box Fury at range, I think he fails due to Tysons length and aukwardness.
Honest debate is welcome, any trolls will get blocked.
So which tactics do you think each fighter will utilise?
I think Fury will make a song and dance about walking AJ down, but in reality, I think he's much too smart to get drawn into that trap.
Don't get me wrong, I think Fury could win with those tactics, however going into a shoot-out with Joshua is risky, the dude can punch and has a good technique.
I think Tyson will look to box at range for the first half the fight, and then start putting it on him when he thinks that AJ is starting to tire.
As for AJ, I think the best bet is to come forward and bait Fury into a brawl, if he tries to box Fury at range, I think he fails due to Tysons length and aukwardness.
Honest debate is welcome, any trolls will get blocked.
I think AJ’s best hope is to do something major early. If you let Fury get into a rhythm, he’s too difficult to beat from there.
AJ is kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place. He fancies himself as a bit of a master boxer these days but he won’t beat Fury in that kind of fight. But then I think he’s also a bit apprehensive now about being overly aggressive. I don’t think being apprehensive in the ring v a guy like Fury can end well. You can’t second guess anything against a high ring IQ, you’ll get picked apart.
The thing with Fury’s more aggressive approach is that it’s still done in a really measured way and still keeps him out of danger too, the way he is balanced. It was really educated pressure without overly committing when it’s not necessary. I think that would cause big problems and fatigue for AJ, especially if AJ is caught in two minds between trying to box or be aggressive.
Fury will probably take the Wlad or Wilder 1 approach.
Joshua has just gotta use anything and everything available to him and hope that Fury isnt as good as people thought he was.
Good article on Sky Sports with Don Charles talking about the best way to prepare for Fury, it's very tricky because he's impossible to replicate in sparring, as Deontay recently found out.
Anthony Joshua wants to topple Tyson Fury but there is no winning formula to follow or similar heavyweights to spar
Anthony Joshua has been warned about the difficulties of preparing for Tyson Fury, with few heavyweights able to imitate his British rival, who can ruin a trainer's tactics at any moment in their world title fight
https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/12209617/anthony-joshua-wants-to-topple-tyson-fury-but-there-is-no-winning-formula-to-follow-or-similar-heavyweights-to-spar
Fury I think just needs to stay sharp early, move around, try to get AJ swinging and missing, counter him with the jab and then by around round 7 or 8 I imagine AJ would be gassed so then put it on him.
AJ his only real chance is to try and blast fury out early so he needs to come forward, not swinging like an idiot but accept you will miss 2 to land 1, don't go for the feints, fight your own fight and just go for the kill.
I don't think it benefits fury to exchange early and I don't think AJ can win the fight past 6-7 rounds so that's the gameplans
That view stands up generally but what if Joshua comes in around 240 pounds? He can move all night at that weight. Can Fury do the same at 270? A lot will depend on which Fury and which Joshua we see.
Fury moves well enough but is it enough to keep Joshua away? We can call Joshua's movement robotic, but he still moves fast.
I reckon it's a fascinating fight. So many ways it could go. We probably wouldn't have said that looking at both fighters a couple of years ago. Both have shown they can adapt.
I've always thought Joshua has more ways to win against Fury (and therefore figured Fury would never take the fight) but the reality is that it will come down to whoever makes the right adjustments. Strategy is huge in this one.
AJ needs to bring all his power to Fury’s body from round one. Fury’s body is a big target and AJ should train to attack Fury’s liver, heart and solar plexus with all his might. Kill the body and the head will die as the saying goes.
So which tactics do you think each fighter will utilise?
I think Fury will make a song and dance about walking AJ down, but in reality, I think he's much too smart to get drawn into that trap.
Don't get me wrong, I think Fury could win with those tactics, however going into a shoot-out with Joshua is risky, the dude can punch and has a good technique.
I think Tyson will look to box at range for the first half the fight, and then start putting it on him when he thinks that AJ is starting to tire.
As for AJ, I think the best bet is to come forward and bait Fury into a brawl, if he tries to box Fury at range, I think he fails due to Tysons length and aukwardness.
Honest debate is welcome, any trolls will get blocked.
Fair analysis bro
Fury draining down in camps was always a mistake which he's only now just fixed
He fought brilliantly at 263 against Hammer in 2014. Slick and can move.
Even at 273 he was moving amazingly. Wilder could not believe the shot he was able to hit him with, SO MUCH RANGE.
Fury debutted at 260 pounds at 20 years old.
He is not that kid anymore. I doubt we'll see him below 265 ever again.
He is a natty BIG man
Fury hardly had to move vs Wilder in his last fight.
The last time he has attempted to use his riddler style was against wilder I.
It is not 2014 anymore mate.
Note: I make Fury the favorite, I am just getting the point across that? Fury will fight Joshua exactly the same way he fought Wilder II etc.
If fury comes in at 270 + pounds, that will be a clear sign that he is not moving much against Joshua.
Tyson Fury no longer wants to train a certain way, which see's him weighing in at 250 or even low 260 pounds etc
Fury draining down in camps was always a mistake which he's only now just fixed
He fought brilliantly at 263 against Hammer in 2014. Slick and can move.
Even at 273 he was moving amazingly. Wilder could not believe the shot he was able to hit him with, SO MUCH RANGE.
Fury debutted at 260 pounds at 20 years old.
He is not that kid anymore. I doubt we'll see him below 265 ever again.
He is a natty BIG man
I believe that Fury should implement the same strategy he used against Wilder in the rematch in order to win by taking the fight to Joshua. He has to let his hands go and throw lots of punches.
Tyson staying on the outside in a feeble attempt to outbox AJ would be futile. The judges are not going to render a verdict against the biggest Heavyweight draw in boxing today which is Anthony Joshua; Especially if his opponent is simply unwilling to engage and exchange punches with him.
It was the major reason why Fury didn't win his first bout against Deontay Wilder. He moved too much without hardly throwing any punches and it cost him in that fight.
I admit that it is a risky strategy because AJ is a lot younger, stronger and larger than Deontay Wilder. In addition, he is the more textbook and fundamentally sound fighter too. However, it just may be Fury's only chance of winning the fight.
Agree with this, I'm sure that a lot of people forget that Fury generally doesn't throw much, which isn't going to work well against someone who can box technically well.
Fury's best shot is to make sure he goes back to Kronk and go at Joshua, lean on him and dig to the body... If he can zap Joshua's stamina he wins the fight pretty easily.
If he doesn't I see Joshua controlling the fight, albeit nervously.
I believe that Fury should implement the same strategy he used against Wilder in the rematch in order to win by taking the fight to Joshua. He has to let his hands go and throw lots of punches.
Tyson staying on the outside in a feeble attempt to outbox AJ would be futile. The judges are not going to render a verdict against the biggest Heavyweight draw in boxing today which is Anthony Joshua; Especially if his opponent is simply unwilling to engage and exchange punches with him.
It was the major reason why Fury didn't win his first bout against Deontay Wilder. He moved too much without hardly throwing any punches and it cost him in that fight.
I admit that it is a risky strategy because AJ is a lot younger, stronger and larger than Deontay Wilder. In addition, he is the more textbook and fundamentally sound fighter too. However, it just may be Fury's only chance of winning the fight.
Big decisions on tactics. In my opinion a big Boxer/Puncher is kryptonite for Fury.
Despite the mauling of Wilder he won't want to trade with Joshua (who is actually capable of hitting him on the way in, or in close).
He can box on the outside but he'll need to avoid Joshua for a long time to do it. Wilder managed to land; I can't see him keeping Joshua off him for 12 rounds.
I think Fury needs to box and punish when he gets the chance. If he's the better boxer then he comes through. But then he's fighting Joshua's style of fight.
That's why I've always thought Joshua is a slight favourite for the fight. He's got more routes to victory.
If Fury can win then fair play to him - because it's not a good match up for him.
I believe that Fury should implement the same strategy he used against Wilder in the rematch in order to win by taking the fight to Joshua. He has to let his hands go and throw lots of punches.
His staying on the outside in a feeble attempt to outbox AJ would be futile. The judges are not going to render a verdict against the biggest Heavyweight draw in boxing today which is Anthony Joshua; If the opponent is simply unwilling to engage and exchange punches.
It was the major reason why Fury didn't win his first bout against Deontay Wilder. He moved too much without hardly throwing any punches and it cost him in that fight.
I admit that it is a risky strategy because AJ is a lot younger, stronger and larger than Deontay Wilder. In addition, he is the more textbook and fundamentally sound fighter too. However, it just may be Fury's only chance of winning.
I can't imagine Fury going head on to Joshua like he did Wilder. Joshua has more to his game, can throw many more danger shots from many angles. I think Fury walking to AJ would be playing to Joshua's biggest strength when Fury is capable of tactics that take. Most of Joshua's strengths away.
If fury comes in at 270 + pounds, that will be a clear sign that he is not moving much against Joshua.
Tyson Fury no longer wants to train a certain way, which see's him weighing in at 250 or even low 260 pounds etc
Then he'll most likely end up on the canvass a few times before getting knocked out.
Fury's old style was a bi-product of Peter Fury's, training and coaching etc
I don't think Fury wants to resurrect that area of his game 'Fury will fight Fury exactly how he fought Wilder'.
It may well be to his detriment, or Joshua could fall apart etc
I am more interested on what Joshua is going to do in this fight, because I am 90% sure of Fury's tactics.
The only tactic AJ has is to not be mentally shaken when the bell rings & to throw the kitchen sink at Fury.
Fury will step to AJ, AJ has to step to him in return. Not sit at range and let Fury dictate the pace of the fight.
Employ Wallin's gameplan and not let Fury gain any momentum.
This fight is won on Stamina, AJ hasn't got the stamina to match or handle Fury. Wlad didn't either which is why he didn't risk throwing shots he knew he'd miss.
I agree that Team Wallin's gameplan was good and could be harvested for ideas. AJ's more massive than Wallin, I think, so size-bullying him would not be as easy for Fury. But AJ's stamina could give out sooner. Trying to catch Fury up against the ropes and then working the body + some uppercuts, mid- or close-range. Kinda what Frazier did vs Ali, or what Mike Tyson would try to do. I don't think that's AJ's style, tho.
Were I Fury, I'd box AJ for some rounds, try to catch the moment AJ slows down and then go in with that pressuring style he used against Wilder.
So is Fury coming in at 250 pounds?
I am not a big fan of ether fighter, that is why I can tackle this thread more subjectively.
Why are people speaking as if, this 270 + pound Fury comes with all the old tricks? The last time Fury used his riddler style was during Wilder vs Fury I etc
Tyson Fury is fighting Anthony Joshua, the same way he fought Wilder II 'Because Fury only wants to train a certain way, and it is working for him'.
The Riddler style was probably a bi-product of Peter Fury.
I can't imagine Fury going head on to Joshua like he did Wilder. Joshua has more to his game, can throw many more danger shots from many angles. I think Fury walking to AJ would be playing to Joshua's biggest strength when Fury is capable of tactics that take. Most of Joshua's strengths away.
Tyson Fury in every single press conference, will also attempt to intimidate Joshua.
I disagree with all the posters here, who have stated that Fury will be cagey vs Joshua.
Now this may be to his detriment, but I just don't think this new Fury wants to entertain his old riddler style etc
Cagey, Fury Wlad like. Fury plans on doing just enough to snatch the rounds which leaves the onus on Joshua to either allow that to happen or try to force himself back in to the fight which brings us possibly to the telegraphing talk which again plays in to Furys hands.
Ive predicted Fury on points, I'm not ruling Joshua out at all, he's braver than Wlad ever chose to be against Fury and he's alot smarter than Wilder and his none planned swingathon but its not guna be easy. Joshua needs to move as well as he ever has to try corner or close down Fury and he needs to make sure he stays in the fight points wise by not being too safe and too sporadic.
So is Fury coming in at 250 pounds?
I am not a big fan of ether fighter, that is why I can tackle this thread more subjectively.
Why are people speaking as if, this 270 + pound Fury comes with all the old tricks? The last time Fury used his riddler style was during Wilder vs Fury I etc
Tyson Fury is fighting Anthony Joshua, the same way he fought Wilder II 'Because Fury only wants to train a certain way, and it is working for him'.
The Riddler style was probably a bi-product of Peter Fury.